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django
June 8th, 2003, 12:15 AM
Hi all
If I could quote from an article on one of the Jungian websites....The Christian emphasis on God as love,ignoring the dark side of the Self is the result of an infantile childish wish for endless love from a parent with "no ambivalence"

Is this not how so many approach the I Ching? You know..."Where are the lost car keys"?... I wonder if he/she will phone?....will these shares keep their value? and so on.

I have no wish to frighten off anybody from taking up the I Ching, but for those who should be using the The Changes as a medium for their religious quest one has to come to terms with the dark side of the I Ching....
There is a love that moves the stars, but we dont always experience it down here.A new image of the Self/I Ching is emerging, that has both a light and dark side. By struggling with the dark side of the I Ching we are actually involved in a realistic relationship with it,rather than an infantile playful fantasy.

Who is the "Commander of darkness" of the fourth line of Ming I[36 hex] Have you met him??

Who are "they" in the 3rd line of the same hexagram??

Have you been duped by the hidden enemies in the 2nd line of the 57th hex have you experienced the insidious suggestions?.

Have you suffered at the hands of the churlish ruler in the 2nd place in the 55th hex.

how about the powerful inferior who is hindering your deliverence in the 6th line of the 40th hex.

Course, you really can avoid all the above by using a "dumbed down" version of the I Ching, you know, one for the truly modern person using a lot of obtuse exotic sounding phrases which lead you nowhere really, but are part of the secret conspiracy between the "shallow" author
and the perpetual flaky reader.
Django.

theunexplained
August 5th, 2005, 10:31 PM
There are many hidden meanings within the yijing, some of which have to do with "spiritual conflict," DNA, etc. When merely looking at the potentials for "good" and "bad" inherent in all situations, every hexagram has both positive and negative meanings.

If one is not involved in such activities as casting out demons or other highly dangerous activities, it is best to recognize that such terms as "good" and "bad" get more and more relative the further one is from enlightenment lest we be quick to judge others as a way of getting ourselves off the hook.

"The tendency for us to deceive others is only exceeded by the tendency to deceive ourselves." As human beings, we often operate out of our darker aspects, rationalizing whatever we want to do no matter how harmful, often redefining what "harm" is according to what we want to do. Often the darker passages, and even the flip side of the "Superior Man" (i.e. we get a hexagram saying the superior man would do such and such, implying that since we want to do the opposite, we are operating out of our inferior side), applies to our own motivations instead of the motivations or ethical or spiritual morass of others.

But, sometimes, it IS describing people or forces outside of ourselves. The trick is, in identifying one's hidden assumptions, knowing oneself, and being able to divide complex subjects up into specific questions without bias.