Wen Wang Ba Gua or Liu Yao Gua or Jing Fang Shu I Ching Divination

[orlando]

There is a common form of I Ching prediction used by proffessional consultants throughout Asia, but is relatively unknown in the West.
This unique system utilizes traditional I Ching knowledge and a kind of Chinese Astrology called Tzu Ping, or Ba Zi or The Four Pillars of Destiny.

Its is a type of I Ching analysis method were one labels each line of a Kua (Gua) with one of the 12 Earthly Branches, Five Aspects of Human Life (Wu Xing , the Elements ) and the Six Animal Spirits (Liu Shen,this is their sequence: Green Dragon, Red Bird, Earthworm, Snake, White Tiger and Black Tortise).
Then the cycle/sequence continues. In other words, if you think of the Animals being arranged in a circle, then the Green Dragon will follow the Black Tortoise, etc. So if you can remember this simple sequence and the short Trick Song below, you can determine the Animal position for any Hexagram that is cast on a particular day.

The term "start with" refers to the first Yao (bottom line) of the Hexagram.

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Six Animal Spirits Trick Song (Jing Fang I Ching Divination)

Celestial Stems Animal Spirit
Jia or Yi, start with Green Dragon
Bing or Ding, start with Red Bird
Wu Day, start with Earthworm
Ji Day, start with Snake
Geng or Xin start with White Tiger
Ren or Gui start with Black Tortoise
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I believe there also ways of utilizing the 10 Celstial Stems and the "Song of the Stem Branch Combination, but I am not well versed in this subtleties.

I am seeking a detailed information of this method of consulting the I Ching. Would you be so kind you may give me this information about it?

I was thinking that this method was related to the Astrology of I Ching but they are different.

Thanks for your kind help and support to my question...

Orlando Pulgar

[hilary]

Hi Orlando,
Thanks for posting!
I'm afraid that this isn't a system I know anything about - but I do know some people who do.

Could be helpful:
the Taoist Energy Master program (http://www.dataship.com/emas/)
and information on converting stems and branches to hexagrams (http://www.ping.be/icrea/elehex.html)

Not to be missed:
Robert Bereny will shortly (maybe later this month) begin posting a complete account of Wen Wang Ba Gua to the Chinese Astrology list at yahoogroups. To join that list, send a blank email here (chineseastrology-subscribe@yahoogroups.com)

Looks like you have asked at just the right moment http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/wink.gif

(Thank you Roger and Ray for the information!)

[orlando]

Hi Hilary,

Thanks a lot for send me the information I needed.

Best Regards,

Orlando Pulgar

[hilary]

A 'P.S.' for anyone interested in this system: Alex Chiu has a complete course in it available at http://www.superiching.com.

[peter]

Oh, yes, it's interesting. But don't be disappointed by rudeness of the author of that site (you can find some offensive phrases in his writings). And I have not found a clear plan of his course - only a set of articles sorted by alphabet.

Peter

[chinuajin]

As far as I can judge, Chiu's stuff is a bunch of
gobbledegook. His abbreviations (which he seems to consider essential to his method) are so anti-intuitive, as to make his rambling articles utterly dense.

Give me up-ended T'ings and Celestial Tortoises any day over this self-serving egomaniac's "Method"!

What his "Method" seems to promise is nothing more than complicated "Fortune Telling", rather than Divination. I could be wrong, as the site is so disjoint and confused that I can't make anything of it. IMHO, the guy's a Huckster.

Chinuajin

[peter]

Hi!

Oh, you're too subjective in your judgement. Alex's staff is really interesting, but he himself... Don't pay any attention to his proud sentences, and you'll find that this method is really very interesting. I also shocked, so to say, by some of his expressions, but it's his manner, and it has no relation to this wonderful method.

Regards,

Peter