Jesed's questions - 2 situations

[esolo]

Both these situations concern a relationship I have with someone:

With person 1:

General diagnosis: 38.2.4 to 27

Yes, we are currently separated physically by some distance..thus, hex 38. However, there is a deep connection between us (line 4) and I met him in a 'narrow street' (line 2).

Person 1's current position: 17.1.4 to 8

He feels the connection and is feeling the pull. Although he feels a bit nervous about it (line 4) he feels that moving closer is what he wants to do (line 1).

My current position: 3

Yes, I feel that I'm really struggling here, trying to do something that I sometimes feel is hopeless. The general diagnosis and his current position tell me however that the situation isn't hopeless.

With person 2:

General diagnosis: 20.1 to 42

I'm not sure if this is referring to the fact that I don't have much information about what's happening or the fact that person 2 is young and somewhat immature. However, since the question was the general diagnosis of the relationship I'm going to say that this is a relationship characterized by little knowledge and a distinct lack of perspective. My view of the situation is extremely limited. This is true.

Person 2's current position: 36.1 to 15

He is certainly hiding his light from me right now. He won't respond to my emails or text messages. I think it's because he feels that he has disappointed me.

My current position: 57.3 to 59

I need to drop the situation because it will be humiliating for me to keep pushing for anything from this person. He simply cannot deliver and I'm making a fool of myself which is exactly what I have been feeling...foolish.


I have to say that these three questions really got to the core of these two relationships. Obviously I have a meaningful connection with person 1 and a very good chance of having decent relationship. I do not see that happening with person 2 where the reading is quite grim.

Anyone see anything else? I think I've summed it up pretty well.

[willowfox]

"With person 2:
General diagnosis: 20.1 to 42"

It seems to be saying that you are watching him from a distance but you don't understand the situation, you only think of how it affects you, therefore you need to get a deep insight into the affair. Hex 42 gives you a better understanding, so the problem can be resolved and thus your relationship blossoms. It is a time for positive action which will lead to a successful outcome but you have to go for it.

"Person 2's current position: 36.1 to 15"

it would seem that this person is in trouble of some kind, trying to duck and dive, perhaps facing some kind of opposition to his plans, so he really needs to make a clean break and get away from his current situation, the people are unfriendly towards him. Hex 15 says that he needs to show restraint, not anger anyone and certainly keep a low profile now.

"My current position: 57.3 to 59

basically, you are thinking too much about this situation, this person and never reaching a firm decision on what to do about him, you need to make up your mind as to what you are going to do and do it, messing around only gives you more doubts. Hex 59 says that you need to clear the air, find out what the problem is and sort it out, it is up to you to tackle this communication breakdown.

[jesed]

Hi esolo

I think you have done a great interpretation; so, only in case the comment could be useful, I would add:

a) The general diganosis with person 1.

38 is in the past (ended around January 31, 2007) and 27 is in the present. So, you WAS in oposition, but NOW you are in a time to nourish the relation. Maybe you are too much attached to the past sense of isolation, when now that isolation had gone (even if physical distance is still an issue).

People 1 is seeking for solidarity with you.. but you are facing some pesimism (hex 3). Don't be pesimist abut this.. you have the enough straight and "worthy-ness" to solve the initial chaos.

About relation with people 2... time of 20 is just starting right now.. but now both of you are facing the relation with a narrow perspective (line 1). That could be enough for a small affair, but not for a serious relationship.

Best wishes

[willowfox]

"With person 1:

General diagnosis: 38.2.4 to 27

Suggests that if there are still some outstanding problems then try and find a way to resolve them but do not try and force the issue and what you lost will be regained. Then your feelings of isolation will disappear, and much can be achieved. Hex 27 says to provide care, support , be receptive and respect this person, then your relationship will prosper.

"Person 1's current position: 17.1.4 to 8"

He needs to listen to others in order to get a larger picture of the situation and needs to adapt to the changing affair. He needs to find out who his true friends really are and show that he is sincere to them. Hex 8 he is seeking a union, a true joining together, a joining together with people of a like mind and like values.

"My current position: 3

this is a time of a new beginning for you, so expect problems, growing pains, adjustments will have to be made, but persevere and all will come right. Everything is very unsettled and up in the air, so take it slowly and carefully, and if you need help you should always seek it out, so have patience because the situation is growing, it will all work okay. Flowers grow from seeds and take their time as well.

[esolo]

"With person 2:
General diagnosis: 20.1 to 42"

It seems to be saying that you are watching him from a distance but you don't understand the situation


I was quite surprised at this answer. While it's true that I am at some distance from him I thought that I understood the situation. This answer however seems to suggest that I actually don't have a good understanding of what's going on.

"Person 2's current position: 36.1 to 15"

it would seem that this person is in trouble of some kind, trying to duck and dive, perhaps facing some kind of opposition to his plans, so he really needs to make a clean break and get away from his current situation,


This was interesting as well since 36 is about hiding ones light in order to escape injury. This friend went into full retreat after I told him something which I thought was rather meaningless. I started asking the Yi about it and I can tell you that even multiple questions of assorted varieties were not enough to get even one good answer :) They were all negative. I began to panic and kept asking in different ways. You definitely can't make the Yi give you a good answer when something's wrong and at some point probably everyone has been caught up in this.

"My current position: 57.3 to 59

basically, you are thinking too much about this situation

I tried a few times to get through to him but was unsuccessful. He appears to have done a complete 180 on me and I really don't know why. I feel incredibly stupid right now just pounding away at this issue by sending emails and text messages. As Bradford says in his commentary on this line:

The pathological process and maladaptive behavior have lost the sense of context.

(Btw, if someone would like to ask that for me it would be nice. I fear that I've done too much asking. 'Why has T. pulled away from E.?")

[esolo]

jesed,

I just want to say that these three questions are really good at getting to the heart of a relationship question. I was amazed at my answers. Both of these situations have caused me considerable pain and suffering and you know what that means: Too much Yi. Your questions really summed up what's going on in one neat little package. Thanks.