HEX 63: what does it mean in a relationship question?

[truthful22]

Hi, everyone- I am new to this site and a beginner in practicing the Yi. I would very much appreciate your insight --

I never received Hex 63 pertaining to relationship questions... until now. It's baffling, given my limited knowledge of the Yi. It seems to me, Hex 63 is saying - it's over, and move on, but on the same token, the message could be -- work on the difficult situation and persevere steadily for future.

I have recently started a new relationship with "x"...with too many bumpy rides. I am beginning to wonder if it's worth pursuing this relationship.

Should I pursue this relationship? Hex 63.2,3,5---Hex 19 (the moving lines are so confusing, esp. 3 & 5 in this context)

What are my correct actions dealing this relationship with "x": Hex 63 without changing lines

What will be X's next move? Hex 63.3,5 --- Hex 24

How does X see me? Hex 37.1,2 --- Hex 57

It seems to me, the Yi is stressing Hex 63 in my relationship, but not entirely understanding Hex 63, I am not sure how to interpret my readings?

Many thanks,

truthful22

[auriel]

truthful-
63 means a secured relationship, where do you go from this point is the difficulty. since 19 is a joint approach, the 24 seems to infer that he'll return to you, eventually difficulties or a baby will surface(19). 63.3.5 has him trying to win you but (5) says subtly.3 means taming a free people, persuing their own desires take it as you will. the2 line is you?
he sees you as wife material, maybe in too traditional a sense.(37.1.2) of course at 63 everything may be internalised- just over and the emotions left to play out-
you should follow the advice of the image plus dont let things taper off, renew as possible but not aggressively, i think-

[void]

I, like truthful am not at all sure 63 in a relationship question would indicate the relationship being 'secured'. More often it seems to indicate its over. In my experience 63 has most often meant somethings finished. I'm not saying I don't agree with Auriel but if I got these answers in relation to my questions I would not be confident that the relationship was secure, home and dry at all. Too often I've taken it to mean that and found the opposite to be true.

I find this a difficult hexagram to understand with such questions as Truthful asked. I too have been unsure if its 'its over and done' or 'its secured and safe'...well either way its a kind of finality I suppose. Does anyone else have a view on this ?

[pakua]

Could 63 mean one phase is over and done with, and it's time to start the next?

[truthful22]

Hi, thanks for all your responses. I am still not sure what 63 is about. It appears to me - X hasn't been in touch over a week after some misunderstanding via email - that the relationship is over and that I focus on centering myself, keep still. Further Yi questions indicate:

What does "x" think/regard this relationship?: Hex 24.1--- hex 2

Is my relationship with "x" over?-- Hex 31 without moving lines

Will my relationshp end in the remainder of 2005 -- Hex 51.4-- hex 24

What is the next development in our relationship? Hex 1.4--Hex 9

So as Pakua said, the one phase is over and done with (51.4 suggests as the present situation/phase?) and the new, positive phase may be approaching with "x"? A wishful thinking?

Thanks so much!

truthful22

[val]

Hi Truthful22...

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X hasn't been in touch over a week after some misunderstanding via email<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>Am I not reading this right or did you just say that since he hasn't communicated with you for over a week you're taking this to mean the relationship is over?

And I thought *I* had a problem with patience! A week is nothing... two weeks is nothing. If I were in this position myself, I'd stop asking how he feels and what he thinks and start looking at why I'm so eager to declare it ended. There's something to be learned about myself there I believe.

I'll let others interpret most of these castings for you. I just want to touch on the one that jumped out me.

You asked "What is the next development in our relationship?" That answer is real easy. This is the Yi saying it's not going to tell you that... because that answer is up to you. 1.4 says you have a choice here... a choice of actions. All your questions here seem to indicate you feel powerless in determining the direction of your relationship. Your position in them is passive. Have you asked yet what you can do to arrest the decay in the relationship... what action you can take? Because you're not powerless. You're powerful, and you can arrest the decay if you want, but... you'd better hurry... 24.1... solid ice will be coming soon and that means you have a small window of opportunity that will be closing soon.

Love,

Val

[auriel]

truthful,

as void said, 63 can really mean over. i thought 'cause it isnt over for you really- all those questions you're asking!- that with the 19 &amp; 24 it meant something else. maybe instead of secured its more like "of completed form", that you got your personal pattern of fights and breakups established. pakua is right-on, i think. its for sure your best hope, if he feels the same way- time to rework the basics. but it seems like he feels the split wasnt so big a thing and he can come back whenever(24.1). coupled with the 37.1.2 that seems dangerous. 1.4 &amp; 51.4 have a commen thread of something that doesnt quite start or finish. 1.4 is maybe a sign to try to lift it to a spiritual level. y'all have what you have, now rise above it. is that possible? 1.4 is more like back to the same old same old- yeah just maybe a transition.
girl, truthfully, wishes are a great foundation for dreams, but it takes two to tango[ from WISDOM OF THE WEST (condensed version)].

(to sum up my opinion): its in your hands to make him understand- that you want it only if it gets better.

[auriel]

{val-great cross-post!}

[val]

Auriel...

I would say incredible cross-post, but nothing about the Yi and how the force behind the Yi works really surprises me any more.

Truthful...

It's clear Auriel and I picked up the same bottom line message from all your questions. And you might think, since you're fairly new to the Yi, that we gave you conflicting interpretations of the lines that we both interpreted (24.1 and 1.4). We didn't. The Yi is multi-layered. There are several meanings to any one hexagram or line statement. There are real direct directions and subtle nuisances and all manner of messages in between. Auriel and I each picked up on different layers of 24.1 and 1.4. I love what Auriel said about them and I love how our interpretations complement each other. I really believe the force behind the Yi wants to reach you and help you salvage this relationship.

Love,

Val

[truthful22]

Hi, Val &amp; Auriel I love your messages and thanks so much. It keeps me centered.

A little bit of my background with "X": I've known "x" for 2 years through business dealings. The mintue I met him, there was a powerful attraction between us, but we never acted on impulse, he kept his distance from me and our relationship remained professional and friendly with strong mutual attraction as the undercurrent vibe. We live in the different cities, and I travel to his city for business and stay there for 2-3 months. During my last trip, "X" did something incredible to help the business -- beyond what was called for -- and we became closer and a few days before I was leaving his city, we had two very passionate nights together.

I wish to get to know him better and would like to continue this relationship. But you two are SO right that I feel powerless because the flow of our relationship seems to be in his hands. I don't like it and am not comfortable at all (I am usually the girl who "hen-pecks" men and the current situation is so confusing).

X has already said that he wants to get to know me better and continue to work on this relationship, but there are also many red flags, especially he tells me he's very private and does not reveal too much of himself. Maybe I don't trust him and this creates insecurity. So when he doesn't respond to my email abrupty for a week, my insecurity intesifies.

Auriel - you're right on the money about "he feels the split wasn't so big a thing and he can come back whenever. Coupled with the 37.1.2 that seems dangerous." Maybe this has been what I am unconsciously sensing, therefore my first question: should I pursue this relationship (hex 63.2.3.5 --- Hex 19)

Val-- I did ask what I can do to make this work but did not post them. Here are:

what do I need to kow to help me steer the right course? Hex 26 without moving lines

what can I do to help this relationship grow? Hex 52 without moving lines.

It seems to me -- that the Yi is advising that I accumulate my strength and keep still until I am emotionally strong enough to steer this relationship on a right course when the return
(hex 24) comes? Does this make sense to you?

Truthful

[auriel]

seems exact.
i was just thinking about 26, how it seems to be about not taking advantage of innocence, drives and passions, but harnessing them wisely, getting things out of one-on-one temptations into the social sphere. "dining out brings good fortune. . ." might be extended to bringing others into the mix. . . it could also reference you realising your power, as a woman to set a tempo. . .