Hexagram 52 and 15

[moonrise]

I hope you are not getting tired of my questions about the appartement (those who read them and, thank you, answered).http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/happy.gif

But there has been some developement; my lawyer developed a very good strategy which could work - or not.

I asked Yi Jing what the situation was about now; I asked: will I be able to buy the appartement?

I got 52.1.3. changing to 27

I am concerned...this standing still is not a good sign, right? So, no buying for now...?
I admit, I do not understand the lines very well; they are about meditation and I am not very good in interpreting them in the light of my situation.
I think line 3 is not very good though...I am concerned.

Because I didn't know what to think, I asked the question again: Will I buy the appartement, will the government accept my proposition?

I got 15.3.5.changing into 8. Here, the lines say a certain gain can be obtained. The fifth line is about going forward, taking action?

What do you think of all this? Please, help out here, now that things started to move I am even more worried.

And there is another question: I am about to leave the country for three months, I am going to some spiritual place I care about a lot. Visit friends and visit the people there.

Because of this legal stuff I am thinking that maybe I should not go...although everything is prepared, the ticket bought, they are expecting me, etc.

I asked Yi Jing: Should I go inspite of this situation with my appartement?
I got 13.1.2.3. changing into 6.

It is interesting that the heaxgram about "friendship and fellow humans" came up. Because this is about my friends and people I can relate to, share my path with them.

What are the lines telling me? The first is about being together, but the second oneis warning me against closing, about beeing too limited.
What about the third one? Is it about just trusting, stop being suspicious?

I feel I should go there and just be open to contacts to people, it can be good for me.

What do you think? Can you hel me interpret these lines?

I know it is quite a long post but thing seem in such a mess at the moment...I just wish the situation with my appartement will settle somehow and I long so much to go there, to this community.

I will be very grateful for any insight.

[auriel]

moonrise,

the half-moon rose at noon today.

52.3 is generally about really really wanting something and having to wait; that fits you; 52.1 don't go running off somewhere, don't take premature action as well. the general thrust of 52 has always been for me "you might as well meditate, get some perspective, don't let it get to you; a right time for action will come and you'll recognize it". 27 is a good sign, you'll be amused at least.

will you get the apartment? 15.3.5. 15.3 "modest about modesty" means, don't wear modesty as a badge; you may have to fight a bit for your rights; but the 8 it changes to says you better continue questioning about specific courses of action.

13.1.2.3 seems to me to mean that the whole process will be suspended if you go, which could be allright, but with a chance for enemies or inferior bureauocrat-types to work against you while you're gone. my guess is that the i ching is saying that spiritual relations with close friends (13.2) wont lead anywhere new (without pain); the only good will come from people close-by (13.1); and retreat (13.3) could cost you years. you won't be happy running away.

ask more questions about specifics, relax, see this thing through.

[moonrise]

Hi, Auriel,

thank for your answer. I am glad to hear about the half moon - I like the moon, don't you, too?http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/happy.gif

You are right, I think too, that this situation will demand different approaches and solutions...

But, you see, with my trip I am not trying to run away or something...I've been planning it for months but now this situation with the appartement has come up. So, I am thinking that I should stay, but on the other hand...what can I do? My lawyer is doing all the work, I am just observing. There is not much I can do, it is a legal battle.

But I would sure benefit from my friends there, I long to see them, they are expecting me, I miss them and I miss the place so much, all my focus has been on going there...

As far as my appartement is concerned they cannot help me, that is another thing, but I would find some peace there and some comfort I need. It means a lot to me and now it is unique chance for me to go. I don't know. Maybe I should just ask my lawyer. I did before and she said that there is no problem with my going, why sit here and wait, and these things take so much time in court. But now with this new developement, I am not sure any more.

Thank you for your reply!

[void]

In another thread you were asking if your studies would be affected by you going away for 3 months. I said basically I thought the Yi was saying "No it will be too much for you to go away and still be able to handle the course".

You said that it was so important to go away you would go anyway. Now you say if you go away will it affect you getting your appartment ? Seemed to me in the other thread going away was the most important thing to you ? Whatever anyone says you want to go away. You don't say why its so important to take this trip, but you seem to be repeatedly worrying about how this trip will affect other very important issues in your life.

I think you should just start to consider if it really is so important for you to go. If it is then I guess theres no point in consulting the Yi Jing since your mind is already made up as it was with your query about studying.

[void]

Sorry crossed posts, I see your situation more clearly now. Although you miss your friends you are building a new life where you are now, maybe that needs all your attention since it is where your future is. Both your studies and your appartmnet are crucial to your future aren't they ?

[moonrise]

Hi, Void,

you are right, I did ask about my studies, too.http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/happy.gif
But with that I came to peace. I saw that if I go, I will loose the first year ot studies. I checked a little at university, if you miss all that classes, you cannot make it through the first year.

I've already finished one university, this is the second one (I changed my mind about what I want to do in life), so I am not so worried. I have one degree, I was an excellent student, so I feel that with this second one I can afford to loose one year. Besides, I have to work to live and it is a little too much, so maybe doing the first year in two years will be even a little easier. it is only a three year school, so if I take 4, it is not such harm. First I was worried, but then I asked myself what was more important, and going there is most important, and I am ready to sacrifice this one school year.
And of course, this means that I will not be able to go the next year and the next year, because I will be stuck in my studies...so, it is better to go now and then focus on my studies.

But with the appartement it is another thing...loosing a place to live cannot be compared to loosing a year of studies that I can make up in the following year. So, if the situation with the appatement gets so serious, I will probably have to reconsider - but I am trying to do everything so that I could go. I aksed Yi Jing...and I still don't knowhttp://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/happy.gif

Why this trip is so important to me? because that place is my true home, those friends are my true friends, being away is like being away from my family. If someone told me just drop everything and go there for good, I would do it in a second. But I cannot do it, because I need the income.
Maybe it would be easier to understand how much it means to me, if I said it is like as if I needed to visit the love of my life, my husband or my children. That is how much it means to me. Here, where I am now, my life here is only a waiting room to go there. I am here only because I cannot be there all the time and I am doing everything I can to be there as much as possible. I was there last year, but I had to leave because my mum died and beside the pain of loosing mum, leaving the place broke my heart totally. I started to recover when there was another chance to go this year and I am putting all my longing and love there. And to see now, one month before taking off, that I am in fact not going, is devastating. And I don't know when or if another chance will come.

[moonrise]

Hi, I crossed posts, toohttp://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/happy.gif

You are right, these things here need attention now...but you know, life is short in a way and just postponing and postponing what I long for...I don't know.

And if I don't go this year, I don't know when it will happen again. Now, my dad payed the plane ticket, I am not sure he will be ready to give next year.

And waiting for another year...or even more, I admit, just the though of it is killing me. I cannot even wait to go now, I've been dreaming about it for all this time...and now just giving up is horrible.

But it is true that maybe the circumstances in my life will make me stay here, but I am trying to avoid that.
Thank you for your reply.

[moonrise]

Hi, everyone,

I was looking up some more...could line 3 in hexagram 13 mean to have more faith, to trust and not be so suspicious? In one book I have, this line is interpreted as: mistrust only leads to more mistrust.

Maybe I shoul just have more faith and trust that things will work out? Or, I just want to hear thishttp://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/happy.gif

[auriel]

just read your crossing posts, good place to keep horseshttp://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/happy.gif; the 13.1.2.3 changing to 6 more intimates staying close to home, not actively conflicting; now as we're talking spiritual home, and this being the age of electronics, there should be no problem. still as void said, there seems to be issues, and: 13.1 can refer to someone at hand in place of the true object, or loving the one you're with; 13.2 a whole lot of ideas clustering around like "preaching to the converted"; 13.3 giving up a fight to accept-or to be involved with the locals. if you go, things might not be just as you'd hoped; calls to mind the poem

the rising moon that looks for us again
How often hereafter will she wax and wane;
How often rising will she look for us
Through this same Garden-and for one in vain

at 13.3 you don't trust yourself perhaps, and that can parley into general mistrust.
it all can be to and for the good and these caveats just minor undercurrents, things to learn from, be aware of so they don't get you down. and remember i'm just guessing

[moonrise]

Hi, Auriel,

thank you for your reply. What did you mena by "if you go, things will not be as you think"? Were you talking about that community or my legal issue?

I know that things there might not be just perfect, they have never been, but it's okay. I accept these people for as they are.
And there is a person I love very much and I will meet when I go there.

As for my legal issue...I don't know what else I can do here and I don't think my going there can change the outcome. Yes, this is the age of electronics - so I will be contacting my lawyer via emailhttp://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/happy.gif

The poem is lovely!

And you are right - I don't trust myself. My judgement, my feeling...I do have to learn. I think this whole issue is about learning to trust.

[auriel]

meant the community, i think.
also never trust anybody who says "trust me baby"

i think everything you're going through relates to establishing your home, at various levels.
it could/should be under your hat. or there's the story of the old man who carried around a big black pot cooked and slept in it. and the sun moon and stars were all in that pot. trust me.

[baby]

[jesed]

Hi Moonrise

Some ideas, just in case could be useful

1.- The reality behind Yi Jing "uses" your mind as a mirror to give you the answers. If the mirror is clear, you can see a clear image; if it is confuse, the image will be also confuse. That`s why one have to do a meditation effort to get a clear mind before asking about a problem.

2.- 52 is about: "walk when is time to walk; stop when is time to stop; but always (walking or stopped) remain calm" In other words: 52 is pointing you the need for a quite heart. That`s why the Image talks "The noble one does not permit his thoughts to go beyond his situation"
You really need to learn this related to the appartment situation.

3.- The lines are talking about don't let yourself be leaded away from reality because of wishes or fears, but remain calm (line 1), but don't try to get calm by force, but by interior retirement (line 6)

4.- The related hex 27 is talking about the kind of thoughts you put into your mind and soul. You should "eat" thoughts that leads you to inner calm, and don't "eat" thoughts that leads you to anxiety.

5.- Hex 13 changing to 6: Going to see your people will be ok IF is a sincere intention, and the realtionship is equaly; but if there is some kind of mistrust or second intentions you need to stop that mistrust and second intentions to avoid danger.

[moonrise]

Hi,
I am sorry, I couldn't get to the computer earlier.

Jesed, you are very right...I feel this situation with my appartement is teaching me to stay calm in the middle of the turmoil. And stick to what is and not what I am afraid of.
As Auriel said...I need to find my home, I guess in my inner centering.

Yes, seeing my people is a sincere intention...I long to see them, revisit the place and find peace again.

Thank you for yout help!