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yong
September 12th, 2007, 08:52 AM
One good way to appreciate Hex44 ... ;)


http://www.haoting.com/htmusic/176626ht.htm


R! Sean Kingston!

Chorus:
You're way too beautiful girl
That's why it'll never work
You'll have me suicidal, suicidal
When you say it's over
Damn all these beautiful girls
They only wanna do your dirt
They'll have you suicidal, suicidal
When they say it's over

Verse 1:
See it started at the park
Used to chill at the dark
Oh when you took my heart
That's when we fell apart
Coz we both thought
That love lasts forever (lasts forever)
Sean Kingston
They say we're too young
To get ourselves sprung
Oh we didn't care
We made it very clear
And they also said
That we couldn't last together (last together)

Refrain:
See it's very define, girl
One of a kind
But you mush up my mind
You walk to get declined
Oh Lord...
My baby is driving me crazy
(Repeat Chorus)

Verse 2:
It was back in '99
Watchin' movies all the time
Oh when I went away
For doin' my first crime
And I never thought
And then I came out
Mami moved me down South
Oh I'm with my girl
Who I thought was my world
It came out to be
That she wasn't the girl for me (girl for me)
(Repeat Refrain and Chorus)

Verse 3:
Now we're fussin'
And now we're fightin'
Please tell me why
I'm feelin' slightin'
And I don't know
How to make it better (make it better)
You're datin' other guys
You're tellin' me lies
Oh I can't believe
What I'm seein' with my eyes
I'm losin' my mind
And I don't think it's clever (think it's clever)
You're way too beautiful girl
That's why it'll never work
You'll have me suicidal, suicidal, suicidal...

yong
September 12th, 2007, 08:55 AM
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yong
September 12th, 2007, 08:59 AM
THE JUDGEMENT

The maiden is powerful.
One should not marry such a maiden.


Chorus:
You're way too beautiful girl
That's why it'll never work
You'll have me suicidal, suicidal
When you say it's over
d**** all these beautiful girls
They only wanna do your dirt
They'll have you suicidal, suicidal
When they say it's over


Refrain:
See it's very define, girl
One of a kind
But you mush up my mind
You walk to get declined
Oh Lord...
My baby is driving me crazy



THE IMAGE

The image of coming to meet.


Verse 2:
It was back in '99
Watchin' movies all the time
Oh when I went away
For doin' my first crime
And I never thought
And then I came out
Mami moved me down South
Oh I'm with my girl
Who I thought was my world
It came out to be
That she wasn't the girl for me (girl for me)
(Repeat Refrain and Chorus)


Thus does the prince act when disseminating his commands.
And proclaiming them to the four quarters of heaven.

To my dear prince - Sean Kingston

CyclotronMajesty
September 16th, 2007, 07:43 PM
Indeed the world orbits and revloves around the Beautiful Women,
In a furious blood lusting frenzy of sexual mania.
They have risen so high their power touches
The heavens.

But for the good there is a way out. Line 5.

laylab
September 18th, 2007, 10:16 AM
It's not that the maiden is too powerful that one shouldn't marry her, it is that she is powerful so you shouldn't try to treat her as an inferior..you should show respect.

This song, I have heard it the past few days and just shake my head.

It's a perfect example of men's need to define their masculinity by how much they can control, dominate and submit the woman. If she's so beautiful as to lead her to be very confident that the man is NOT the only man on the planet he sings, "you're way to beautiful girl"..

My ex was JUST like that. He even said it. My appearance and my character made him unconfortable, he could't control me so he became more and more agitated.

The girl is not too powerful, the man is simply to weak.

getojack
September 18th, 2007, 11:11 AM
It's not that the maiden is too powerful that one shouldn't marry her, it is that she is powerful so you shouldn't try to treat her as an inferior..you should show respect.


That's not what 44 says. With all due respect, you seem to be twisting the words of the Yi to suit your needs.


This song, I have heard it the past few days and just shake my head.

It's a perfect example of men's need to define their masculinity by how much they can control, dominate and submit the woman. If she's so beautiful as to lead her to be very confident that the man is NOT the only man on the planet he sings, "you're way to beautiful girl"..

My ex was JUST like that. He even said it. My appearance and my character made him unconfortable, he could't control me so he became more and more agitated.

The girl is not too powerful, the man is simply to weak.

So in your opinion, the weak man deserves to die because he is inferior to the powerful, beautiful woman? Interesting interpretation, although I can't agree with it.

laylab
September 18th, 2007, 03:09 PM
So in your opinion, the weak man deserves to die because he is inferior to the powerful, beautiful woman? Interesting interpretation, although I can't agree with it.

Jack,

I've participated in online discussion forums long enough to know not to bite bait that is leading and rhetorical. I have also lived with a man that twisted my words to ask the exact type of leading, inflammatory questions based on words never uttered by me. I never said anything about anyone deserving death. In fact not only did I not even mention "warrented" outcomes I also never spoke of death. So I won't answer your question.

Secondly, are you sure the I ching is saying what you think it's saying with 44? Try looking around this site a bit more, specifically here: http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/amember/shop/?price_group=10

In closing,..I completely agree with the quote at the end of your post ;))

getojack
September 18th, 2007, 03:26 PM
Well, you're posting in a thread called "Suicidal for beautiful girl?"... Context, people... context. :)

laylab
September 18th, 2007, 03:33 PM
I have a book at home entitled, The Ancient Sexual Practices of the Chinese. What many people do not understand about Daoist concepts of Yin and Yang and sex in general is that the "original" "unadulterated" (so to speak) view of women in Taoism is completely devoid of sexism or an interest in the sexual activities of women in relation to how they may affect men.

It was the later, Yin and Yangest school of Taoism that began focusing on life expansion (of men), alchemy and sexual practices that, sadly, became downright sexist.

First of all, a person who has renoucnced their ego, follows the Tao and becomes an uncarved block has no need for such superficial attempts at life extension. But that's an entirely other subject I suppose.

The point is, as time went along, Taoist men were instructed to practice sex with women as a means of extending their lives. They were to have intercourse but not ejaculate. They should however focus on bringing the woman to orgasm because they believed that they could "steal" '(their words not mine) the Yin energy of a woman this way and extend their lives.

They began by referring to the woman during sexual acts as "the vessel" (which by relating a human being to an inanimate object disassociated them from their humanity) eventually it got carried to such an extent that the text began to refer to the woman as "The Enemy" and used military jargon to describe how a man should "engage the enemy during sex".

One text (I will bring the book from home and quote all of the sources for you) says plainly, "as you engage the enemy during copulation you should not look at her, you should consider her as something disgusting to you, an animal".

Many Westerners learning about Taoism become besotted with the apparent beauty of the philosophy but utterly fail to realize that the later school of Taoist was promoted and "formed" by men. Imperfect people and specifically males.

Like all mystic practices and beliefs, whether Jewish Mysticism, Islamic Mysticism, Christian Mysticism or Buddhist, schools of thought have branched off from them, promoted by men that adulterated the original teaches with sexist views of women.

And I see the twisting of Hex 44 as a PERFECT example of this.

I really appreciate what Eckart Toll had to say about this: he said,
That is the EGO seeking manifestion. If we view The Ego as an entity we see that in the human race, in order to gain hold and dominance, The Ego had to oppress the feminine forces in favour of excessive masculine forces. The Feminine aspect has been surpressed because the Ego thrives in a masculine environment.
This is not a Man vs Women issue. It is a Higher Self vs Ego issue. Or, I should say..the Ego vs The Higher Self as the Higher Self sees no need to engage in "war" with the Ego. The Ego is self-destructive.

I find the "convential" interpretations of Hex 44 to be completely and totally influenced by egoistic, male, sexism.

The Sacred Feminine is Powerful, one should not treat her with disrepect.
Think of Nature. You mess around with Mother Nature, try to "submit" her to man-made design..and what happens?

trojan
September 18th, 2007, 05:49 PM
The Sacred Feminine is Powerful, one should not treat her with disrepect.
Think of Nature. You mess around with Mother Nature, try to "submit" her to man-made design..and what happens?

Don't overlook how women treat other women !

As for this thread well noone ever killed themselves because someone else was beautiful lol - its just lyrics, artistic license.

getojack
September 18th, 2007, 06:11 PM
Laylab,

Taoism and the I Ching are completely different animals... yes, they both originated in China, but not everyone who studies the Yi Jing would call themselves Taoist and not everyone who calls themselves Taoist studies the Yi Jing.

I think the sexism that you see in the Yi Jing is in the original Chinese, not in the translation. The Yi Jing is not a gender-neutral book, nor should it be. Do you think the original authors of the Yi were at all concerned about male-superiority or perceived sexist language in the I Ching? I certainly don't.

Consequently, any attempt to remove that language would result in a book that could hardly be called the same book... and it would probably be a lot less interesting. It would be like trying to remove all the sex and violence from the Bible. Certainly you'd have a much thinner and more child-friendly book, but it wouldn't be the same.