Has anyone here checked out the I Ching book by Tsung Hwa Jou?

[cassius_clay]

If so what did you think of it?

[willowfox]

If so what did you think of it?

For novelty purposes only.

[charly]

If so what did you think of it?
Cassius:

I think that it's a very good book, higly oriented to the practice enlisted in the traditional point of viev, but trying to make you observe, think and feel. A good presentation of the theory, esoteric chinese-like pictures for each hexagram, many practical tips and ideas, chinese text and his translation. Not a literal translation, not word by word, a traditional translation.

In words of LiSe:
I have some translations of the Yi which I like especially. There are many excellent translations, but only very few I can use for divining. But THE TAO OF I CHING by Jou, Tsung Hwa works great.
from: http://www.yijing.nl/i_ching/index.html


Jou Tsung Hwa, died 1998, was a respected Master of Tai Chi:
Master Jou ... should be remembered for two things he did which were very important to American Tai Chi and go beyond individual teaching. These things must not die:
1. Encouraging students to explore their Tai Chi, so that they may improve through their own understandings. This he was doing himself, and encouraging others to do.
2. Bringing us all together... He encouraged us all, whatever style, to work together, play push hands together, study together and be friends regardless of what style or what we thought was right to practice... Master Jou got us started respecting each others differences, and coming together in harmony.
W.CPhillips at:
http://www.patiencetaichi.com/public/95.cfm


Some links for more orientation:

http://www.taichifarm.org/Teachings_of_Jou_Tsung_Hwa.htm
http://www.joutsunghwa-taichipark.org/downloads.html
http://www.patiencetaichi.com/public/department59.cfm

And another thread:
http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?p=46148

Yours,

Charly

[peter]

Jou Tsung-hwa made a good translation - not only a translation, but also some applications. I found it very useful.

BTW, does anybody have Master Jou's translation (with 3 examples) of the line 2 of the hexagram 4 (Youthful Folly)? My Russian version doesn't have it, they claim it wasn't in the English text.

[frank_r]

Jou Tsung-hwa made a good translation - not only a translation, but also some applications. I found it very useful.

BTW, does anybody have Master Jou's translation (with 3 examples) of the line 2 of the hexagram 4 (Youthful Folly)? My Russian version doesn't have it, they claim it wasn't in the English text.

In the English version there is no line 2 of the 4th hexagram, so they claim that it wasn't there is correct. At least in the version I have. And that is the sixth printing from June 200o

[freemanc]

It is a spooky, delightful, rough, messy, big-hearted, shrewd, down to earth, hacked over, stitched together work that is by a practitioner: a diviner and a tai-chi master -- not a man of letters.

Which is not to say he was unlettered, and not a really sharp guy; he was. The translation proper is a little bit bland and unexceptionable, which I think is what he intended. The important matter is the material surrounding it, the plethora of diagrams, the discussion of Plum Flower Mind procedure, which is very interesting, and most importantly his commentary. He tells little narratives and imagines situations in a way that make me think he must have been a charming conversationalist. I'd love to have had a reading from him.

It is a really majestically ambitious piece of self publishing, and I think it really found an audience. He went to some pains and expense to publish it in a handsome red book with a little plastic cover. Get one of those older editions if you can; they're a real tactile pleasure.

And I agree that it is very pleasant to actually divine with. I used it day in and day out for a year or two in the early 90's.

FC