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rosada
November 20th, 2007, 11:18 PM
I have recently been intrigued by the programs promoted by garyascott.com. This fellow is enthusiastic about the opportunities in Ecuador and is encouraging folks to take his classes and tours with an eye to ultimately investing in or even moving to that country.
Personally I am not particularly eager to go to South America, but then I don't seem to ever be particularly eager to do anything out of the ordinary and it is only when I follow someone elses enthusiasm that I do anything new at all and when I do I'm usually glad of it. So, although I don't have any inner sence that God wants me to go to Ecuador I have come accoss this website and my husband seems interested so I'm putting a little more energy into checking it out. I wrote the man a note with a few questions and got a nice responce but I don't want to continue to put alot of attention on this if it's not going to particularly lead to anything. So I asked the I Ching,

How far should I go with the advice given on the garyascott.com website. (I'm thinking on a scale of one to ten are we talking: amusing read, take a workshop, go to Ecuador, move to Ecuador???)

I received 40.2.4 - 2.

Sounds like take a workshop, 40.2, and then maybe connect with some people, 40.4? I'm scared caused even just taking a workshop would be $$$$.

Your insights greatly appreciated!

dobro
November 21st, 2007, 01:00 AM
How far should I go with the advice given on the garyascott.com website. (I'm thinking on a scale of one to ten are we talking: amusing read, take a workshop, go to Ecuador, move to Ecuador???)

I received 40.2.4 - 2.

That's four or five questions. You should know better. In your case the advice given on the website represents some kind of release from difficulties in the form of finding a supportive milieu and receiving in a very fundamental and important way. It sounds like you should go for it. As for how much you should put into it or how far you should go, why not ask a question for each, but space them out a bit so that each consultation has time to sink in/cool off before you ask another question.

rosada
November 21st, 2007, 02:52 AM
Dobro,
Muchas Gracias.
Your clarity has saved me so much anquish.
Never doubt your authenticity.
Thank you, rosada

dobro
November 21st, 2007, 03:23 AM
Your clarity has saved me so much anquish.

No, no. Not *my* clarity. HILARY's Clarity.

Nice to have you back here. If you decide to move to Ecuador, make sure you get an internet connection. :)

topal
November 22nd, 2007, 11:54 PM
How far should I go with the advice given on the garyascott.com website. (I'm thinking on a scale of one to ten are we talking: amusing read, take a workshop, go to Ecuador, move to Ecuador???)
I received 40.2.4 - 2.
Sounds like take a workshop, 40.2, and then maybe connect with some people, 40.4? I'm scared caused even just taking a workshop would be $$$$.
Your insights greatly appreciated!


It does seem like it might be worth doing - releasing the tension by going forward...
I'd say take the workshop and see what it's all about and then you can't say that you didn't fully explore the possibilities....

Ecuador eh? Meant to be a beautiful country away from the cities.

Topal

willowfox
November 23rd, 2007, 07:49 AM
How far should I go with the advice given on the garyascott.com website. (I'm thinking on a scale of one to ten are we talking: amusing read, take a workshop, go to Ecuador, move to Ecuador???)

I received 40.2.4 - 2.

Hex 40.2,4 I see these two lines as a warning for you to recognize that this could well be a scam, line 2 the 3 foxes trying to con you and line 4 get rid of those who you think are indispensable like the people you would get involved with in this project.

On a scale of one to ten, I would vote zero, its just a money machine for Scott.

Anyway, Ecuador is quite a primitive country when compared to the US, so you could not expect much help from the police, hospitals or any government institution. An if you decided to go for the country life, I think it would be an absolute disaster, culture shock, language problems, suspicious and ill informed locals, no amenities, lack of health care but two great things no Macdonald's and no 7/11 shops.

topal
November 23rd, 2007, 09:56 AM
Hmmm. Good points. Got me thinking.

Looking at this again, and although I'm usually inclined to be equally cautious, I'm not sure the overall idea is SO bad but perhaps a reorganising of the players involved is needed. Ecuador doesn't exactly have a safe reputation but it is also true that it is incredibly cheap to live for many reasons (including that one). South America is big - so there are bound to be other places. Quite fancy it myself.

I see line 2 as saying that a direction away from tension in the situation needs to be released though I don't necessarily think it means to run away from such an idea. Maybe it needs refining as this also indicates attaining the "middle path." Line 4 also suggests compromise of some kind. Both lines could indicate leaving the suggested initiative as it is, but finding responsibility and compromise for the overall idea...

As to living in the countryside, depends on where you go and some great deals are to be found according to many:

http://www.escapeartist.com/ecuador/ecuador.htm
http://www.internationalliving.com/

Still, I might be letting my own interest in such an idea run away with me...:D

Topal

hollis
November 23rd, 2007, 12:28 PM
Hi Rosada welcome home!:hug: line 2: some good ideas on this website, take them & get your own sparks firing, line 4: release this connection and your true friends will come.

rosada
November 23rd, 2007, 04:56 PM
Thank you all so much for your continuing to put energy into this possibility. My original enthusiasm has waned as my Dad and husband aren't showing anymore interest. My own take on the situation is that while Mr. Scott seems to have put together a genuine opportunity for investors, it is out of our ballpark. In light of this I interpret 40.2.4 > 2 thus:

40. Deliverance
Deliverance. The southwest furthers.
If there is no longer anything where one has to go,
Return brings good fortune.
If there is still something where one has to go,
Hastening brings good fortune.

This hexagram is about returning to ordinary conditions as soon as possible.
It is a time of deliverance from burdensome pressure.

While the whole Life-in-Ecuador scenario is geared towards retirement living and thus a sence of "deliverance from burdensome pressure", for us it would mean taking on a major new lifestyle and debt - more pressure, not less. Thus perhaps 40 should be a red flag that Mr. Scott may not be our path.

The image of Deliverance,
The superior man pardons mistakes and forgives misdeeds.

Interesting that the easiest surest route to Release from Pressure is not Move to a Foreign Country, but simply Forgive. Perhaps when one learns to Forgive you find happiness in your own back yard. Also seems to me a heads up that I may need to be prepared to Forgive - or quickly get over - my assumption that we should steer our course further in this direction.

40.2
One kills three foxes in the field
And receives a yellow arrow.
Perseverance brings good fortune.

Mr. Scott offers a number of interesting workshops designed to help people find a niche in Ecuador - courses on learning to invest in foreign currency, how to start an import/export business, possibilities in real estate etc. I originally thought perhaps this line was suggesting taking a course would result in mastering some "foxes" and receiving some useful golden arrow/info. However, after studying his literature I'm thinking this line is telling me not to ignore the hype and really be clear about what this man has to offer. I don't think he is the scammer Willowfox suggests (Hey, but I do appreciate your input Willowfox. Sometimes you gotta express an opinion in a way that is extreme to be heard at all), but I'm not at all sure that I would be able to take advantage of the opportunities he's come up with. $40,000 isn't alot to pay for a 3 bedroom house - but even so, I don't have $40,000.
"Perseverance brings good fortune". Not sure if this means continuing to look at garyascott.com or just continuing to talk up ideas with the family is the way to go. I have come to feel since seeing what this man is up to, seeing the opportunities he's found, that there are opportunities I can promote right here. And of course, talking this over here on Clarity.com has led me to Topal's very interesting sites. Thank you Topal!

40.2
Deliver yourself from your great toe.
Then the companion comes,
And him you can trust.

As Topal and Hollis have noted, this line suggests that once I have worked through this idea and am no longer feeling Mr. Scott's program is the only possibility, then I wont just fall back to square one, but will now recognize possibilities that ARE suitable to my situation.

2.The Receptive
...If the superior man undertakes something and tries to lead,
He goes astray;
But if he follows he finds guidance.

I got involved in this idea to begin with at my father's suggestion. Dad is 89 and the happiest years of his life were spent setting up schools in Africa. His wife is steering them towards a nice Senior Residence in Santa Barbara and it's obvious Dad feels he might just as well shoot himself now. HE is the one who would really love to be heading off to Ecuador and I am just the surroget. I wasn't opposed to living out this fantasy for him, but now he's not answering my emails or showing anymore interest/leadership in the project so I'm adrift...

The superior man who has breath of character carries the outer world.
Today this is saying to me that I don't have to go to Ecuador to have a full life, I can create it anywhere.

Thank you all who responded to my question. Dobro, your speedy support really helped me think this through, Willowfox you gave voice to my own misgivings and helped me "deliver myself from my great toe" - that is regain objectivity, Topal these websites you've suggested give me hope of finding the companion I can trust, and Hollis, thanks for the hug, you really summed it up perfectly.