Hexagram 23 yet again...

[magdalena]

Guys, can I bore you with a very practical matter?

Right, my partner bought a very big old Grade II listed house off his father (long story) which we decided to renovate and live in (the house is very close to my partner's heart as he used to live there as a child and it's the last bit of the family fortune which his father happily spent away to the last penny over the years). It's a massive thing with far too many rooms spread around everywhere and one can get quite lonely there.

Ok, before I get carried away, we are trying to create an open space kitchen/bfast room by extending an opening to the partition wall to give the house a heart and make it more homely. This is really important to both of us (for many reasons) but as it is a listed house the English Herritage is not very happy with the plan and is trying to stop us. I've been worried sick over this and eventually consulted the Yi about it "Will we be able to achieve the desired result with regards to the partition wall" (I felt really bad for the Yi when casting, how can I bore anyone with this) to which I got 23.4 to 35.

Am I right in assuming that we should not hold our hopes high? Once again sorry to bore you with this but it's important....

[bruce]

Hi Magdalena,

I'm going to take the liberty of rearranging your question just a mite, to "How will we be able to etc.." Pinning Yi down to a yes or no can be confusing to decipher.

So the answer to this question becomes about losing something, or seeing behind something, or getting to the core of the matter. The question still remains: stripping what?

Since you seem to be experiencing stress over this matter, my attention goes to line 4, which speaks of losing your resting place. I think it's more likely to be referring to your state of mind rather than the literal place where the house rests, ie: property. Part of this assumption is based on your relating gua 35. You can progress better without this anxiety. In this light, achieving your plans appear to be hopeful.

[magdalena]

Thank you Bruce, you see that's where the confusion lies as I'm not sure if the stripping relates to the current plan of literally stripping away the old wall (to create an open space) or to loosing the argument with the English Herritage(and the house with it as my partner mentioned that if we don't get the necessary agreement he might end up just selling it, the wall plan is part of a long list of refurbishment proposals all refused by the council). Perhaps 23 suggests we stop putting pressure on them (the council), i.e. we do not take a leading role, and just see what happens? Line 4 doesn't sound good though...

[bruce]

That's true. Yi could well be saying yes to 'stripping the wall'. Or as your partner says, to lose it and find a place you can model according to your own design.

Wish I could be of more help.

Meanwhile though, deep breaths move blood and air, so remember to breathe. http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/wink.gif

[void]

That is quite difficult one to interpret -but some ideas... Thanks to Val I tried with fairly defined questions such as yours - to forget the meaning of the moving line and look to the progression from primary to relating hexagram.

I'm glad I tried this view, sometimes it is so accurate and i would have misunderstood with my usual intense focus on the lines. For example a course came up unexpectedly and I wasn't sure whether to do it. Asking Yi I got 25 to 58,so lines 2 and 6 were moving. Line 6 did not look too promising, but the overview 25 to 58 did. I took the course and found it very stimulating.

So with your throw 23 to 35 it could be seen as stripping away leads to great progress.

On the other hand line 4 may mean its not such a good idea to remove this wall anyway, not enough support to do so, in the material structure I mean, though I presume your partner has looked into this.

FWIW my gut feeling is to go with the first option stripping away leads to great progress - you will be able to go ahead with the partition and with good results (maybe 3 visits from a council official, 35, lol)

This is not a boring question because it sounds like it will affect him very deeply if it is his childhood home - sounds lovely anyway.

So I'm going with the positive, but hopefully others will respond if they see it very differently.

[void]

As Bruce said your question was kinda geared to a yes or no answer. It might be a good idea to ask again approaching from a slightly different angle ?

[magdalena]

Following Bruce's suggestion I'm trying to breathe...http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/lol.gif

Void, many thanks for your comment, these were my thoughts as well (or just wishful thinking) Let's hope you are right...

[void]

Then again if you keep on getting 23 to different questions (as this came up for stepson) some would say Yi is pointing at something else that affects your whole current life situation.

[rosada]

Hi Magdalena,
I had the same first thought as Void, is the house structurally sound enough to accomodate this remodel? If so then I would next ask are you into feng shui at all? This is the study of how the house energy effects the people who live in it. As it sounds like you are saying that while the house has great sentimental value to your partner, the actual experiences there - the father being a flake, the frustrations with the step son - suggest the house may not be all that great for rasing a family. If that is the case perhaps 23.4 - 35 is saying the project collapses and maybe even requires that you move - which - 35 - may not be a bad thing. You might want to ask the IChing, "What is the feng shui of this house for my family?"
Those considerations out of the way, i would feel 23.4 could be consider to be discribing ripping out a wall and 35 is Progress so I would be optimistic about being able to achieve your goal.

Bruce, they are calling for you over on the I Ching story thread!

[val]

Magda...

What Void said... that's what I've been thinking. The Yi could be telling you to prepare for a loss (23) and to be receptive to and accepting of it (2). It could be your job... or some other kind of partnership (35).

If not, the Yi is telling you to definitely forget about tearing down the wall... huh uh... no way... and to accept your partner's son's less-than-loving feelings toward you. It's important as well to let him know that you accept his feelings as valid. You don't have to like that's how he feels, but you have to accept it... and make the best of it (that's the fruit).

Love,

Val

[val]

Rosada...

Dang! Reading isn't your favorite thing to do is it? I've noticed that since you've been on the forum. LOL Reading what Magdalena said about the house, it's quite clear to me that the question about being able to open up the kitchen isn't about feng shui or bad vibes or anything like that. She wrote that it's a listed house in the English Heritage (http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/). That means they will probably have to strictly adhere to the historical design of the house.

And based on what the Yi said to her, if it wasn't talking about something else entirely, there's no walls coming down in that house... the Heritage organization is going to say no-no.

Love,

Val

[val]

Out of curiosity (you have different 'rules' in the UK), I input "Grade II listed house" in google to try to get more information, and this is the first entry that came up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listed_building#Grade_II.2A

Interesting stuff. Thanks for the heads up Magdalena. Any other interesting bits you'd like to offer will be greatly appreciated as well.

Love,

Val

[micheline]

I love rosada's bright and insightful posts and her ideas about feng shui make perfect sense in light of wanting to know if it is a good idea to stay or go...try to do a renovation or not

[heylise]

So far I have only seen good readings from Rosada. With humor and compassion.
LiSe

[rosada]

Hi Magdalena,

If dealings with the housing people do look to be headed towards a legal struggle, Lillian Too recommends in her book, The New I Ching, that you display a Happy Fat Buddha, who wears a red robe and carries a gold ingot. This is the traditional cure for over coming legal situations and hostile intentions. if you are not into Chinese artifacts, a picture of Santa Claus would also be appropriate, since Santa resembles the happiness Buddha. Lillian Too's site, World of Feng Shui.com or wofs.com has lots of interesting tips on feng shui and the I Ching.

Roz

[rosada]

Greetings Val,

Magdalena had asked, "Will we be able to achieve the desired result in regards to the partition wall?" Although her conscious concern was the restrictions of the Heritage foundation, that was not stated in her specific question and many times the IChing will refer to conditions we may not have been aware of anyway. Therefore I felt it was worthwhile to look for other possible meanings behind the answer.

Actually, my friend's consider me to be quite well read. It's my spelling they can't understand...

R.

[rosada]

Dear Micheline and LiSe,

Thank you so much for your kind comments. You all have been very tolerant of this new kid on the block and I am so happy to be here and to be able to learn from you.

Thank you,
Rosada

[magdalena]

Wow! Guys thank you so much for all this great imput. I agree with Rosada's and Val's comments about looking at the problem from many different directions and I think it is actually a great idea to consult a feng shui expert on the house altogether. Why haven't I thought of that before! I will also ask the Yi about the energy of the house, I think you just hit the nail on the head Rosada with all my fears on the topic. Spot on.

[void]

I want to say I regard Rosadas views and input here as valuable and 'correct' as anyone elses.

I regard noone as the ultimate authority on what a reading means.

[val]

Good morning from LA Rosada...

You said...

"Although her conscious concern was the restrictions of the Heritage foundation, that was not stated in her specific question..."

Now THAT'S funny! I do agree you do provide a good deal of entertainment to this forum.

Thank you!

Love,

Val

[magdalena]

And I think Rosada is great.

Following the general consensus, I asked a more general question about the energy of the house (What is the energy/feng shui of the house?) to which I got hexagram 22.4 to 30. I thought 22 describes the property beautifully as it indeed is graceful and the moving line is exactly what's going on in my head at the moment, do we keep this graceful house with all its complications or do we go for a much more simple solution of selling it and finding a smaller one? Im not sure though in what way "the doubt itself implies the answer"? Can someone shed some light on the moving line and also on hexagram 30?

Also, does anyone know a good feng shui expert?

[bruce]

Magdalena, what an interesting and appropriate answer to this last question. 30 is clarity and beauty and 22 is chi or life energy showing (form).

Here's my own notes on line 4:

When the sea is stirred up,
it stirs also the sand.
The eyes of love don?t notice;
love sees love in everything.
In time the sand settles,
taking its natural place.

This house indeed appears to have a very good vibe, as it is. If you do decide to, and are able to change it, line 4 may be helpful.

[void]

I think I agree with Bruce. My initial and fanciful http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/blush.gif thought on this reading was the house is saying "yes please, I'm beautiful, here I am and I'm depending on you just like you're depending on me for this whole renovation/rejuvenation project."

Well I'm not normally that much prone to flights of fancy, but I thought this reading was kinda magical !

I no more think homes are just empty spaces. I used to think so until I fell in love with my current abode to such an extent that I bought it flowers on the anniversary of my moving in http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/blush.gif not because of its spendour or anything like that, but because it fits the needs of my life like a glove - it was like a mini miracle I ever got it.

[magdalena]

Come to think of it I do agree with Void that this reading as well as the whole house story is kinda magical.. My partner bought it despite everyone's advice not to and I think he acted on his deep instincts rather than anything. His family history is quite tragic so I was worried about this house. I'm relieved that the Yi hasn't got any major warnings for me here to avoid it like a rash. We both had quite tough lives and I do think we found soulmates in each other (but there is still a lot of work to do) so maybe the renovation/rejuvenation project concerns us as much as the house...

Anyway, I'm getting carried away here.. You guys are really great, thank you so much for all your imput and help. Will still look for a feng shui expert though as I thought it was a great idea. God bless you all! XXX
http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/bounce.gif

[jesed]

Just in case the comment could be useful

My experience is, when the question is evaluate the Feng Shui from a place, mathematical method is better than text analyis method

In mathematical method, 22 is "Total combination" (sign of harmony and good chi), but 30 is "Total conflict" (sign of bad chi)

So, seems there is actually an energetical problem with the house. To avoid misunderstandings: I'm not saying that the house has the worst chi in the world... but some corrections are needed.

If Magdalena provides the exactly month, day and hour when she did the question, I could give more detailed interpretation with matematical metod.

Best wishes

[rosada]

Dear Magdalena,

I was just about to write you saying, "Don't just get some one who does 'Black Hat Sect Feng Shui", they are a dime a dozen. You need someone who knows the mathmatical meathod."
Wow, are we good or what?

R

[bruce]

Or, you could let each thing find its place, as though it knows where it wants to be. We are talking practical aesthetics, not a scientific formula, unless you like to paint by numbers.

[jesed]

Hi Bruce

I'm totally agree with you about not paint by numbers.

To avoid misunderstandings: when I said "matemathical method" it wasn't a mathematical aesthetic.. it was a mathematical method to understand Yi Jing answers. Some times before I had use it in this forum (remember Don Juan's case of breaking-up predicted with this mathematical method from hexagram 2 unchanging)

But, even more... Feng Shui is not only (and not mayorly) about aesthetics; is more close to geophisic.

Of course, most of the Feng Shui that came to Western from Hong Kong and Taiwan are center in "healings" that are most "aesthetic common sense" mixed with some supertitions.

Best wishes

[bruce]

Hi Jesed,

I completely missed where you mentioned "math method". Sorry for the confusion. I was referring to Rosada's recommendation, half tongue-in-cheek.

I'm sure there's all sorts of ways to dice and divide a room. All kind of elements come to play. And no doubt there are some gifted folks who specialize in one or more of these approaches.

What I'm suggesting is an approach which one can create those same effects and affects, not through a system but through minimizing, and then letting intuition guide the creative process. Granted, not everyone has this kind of eye or sensitivity, but I think by-in-large, many do but have not exercised it.

It?s a lot like meditation. There are many different types and methods, but if one is still and awake, many of them find a way all by themselves. As in 2.2.

[jesed]

ps.

here, an example of Feng Shui evaluation with mathematical method:
http://www.astro-fengshui.com/courses/yijing.html

at the bottom of that page, "Click here to download a sample scroll"

[jesed]

cross-post with Bruce http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/happy.gif... yes, one had to take what is useful for one's way.

[magdalena]

Gosh I didn't realise that feng shui works like mathematics! That's amazing.

Jesed, I did the divination on Tuesday 6th December between 6-7pm London time. Do you think you could have a go? That would be amazing!!

[rosada]

Actually Bruce, your suggestion that one could enhance the feng-shui of their house simply by removing the clutter is streight out of feng shui 101! Also, when someone does know feng shui and then looks at their house they often are delighted to discover they had unconsciously arranged things in a way that accords with good feng shui principals.
However, true feng shui is not based on intuition, but on the date the house is built, and the compass direction it faces. From this information one determines wheather the energies of the house are in balance or if certain elements need to be added to bring the house into balance. For example, the West/South direction is considered to be the K'un area of the house. It is believed to influence partnership and thus Hexagram 2 says "It is favorable to find friends in the West and South" (The East/North is considered to be the meditation area of the house, good for students and privacy. Thus Hexagram 2 advises, "forego friends in the east and north.)
K'un's element Earth. For some reason - I forget at the moment - the 2 Earth is considered to be extremely difficult feng shui wise, so a feng shui practioner familiar with Compass School feng shui will often advise putting actual metal in the Southwest area of the home. This is because metal comes from earth and so having an actual metal object in this room suggests the negative earth energy is depleted as it becomes metal. It's difficult to explain in a brief paragraph here, but the point is, true feng shui is not based on having particular symbols or statues in a room, but on the elements -Earth, Fire, Water,Wood,Metal - being in balance. A metal statue of Budhha may be effective, but not because it is Budhha, but because it is metal.
To find a feng shui practioner in your area who understands these more profound levels of the science, Magdalena, I see that the link Jesed gave us to Master Joseph Wu's site has a list. You might also look at The American Feng Shui Institute, or google Master Sang. He also gives recommendations. Jamilyn.com (I'm not sure that's right, I'll get back to you) advertises readings for $90. From what it appears she gives you, I think she is doing Compass school feng shui. Bottom line is, find someone who uses your house's compass direction and the year it was built. If it is not possible to locate someone in your area who can do this for you, I would agree with Bruce, you can do a heck of a lot just clearing out clutter. The book, The Western Guide to Feng Shui is a good place to start if you just want to study it yourself. Although it's best if you can get someone to show you the deeper levels, it is amazing how the universe will reach us right wher we are and if you are at the beginner's level, beginning steps can work miracles. If you do decide to study feng shui more deeply, the feng shui course jesed has told us about is being offered at a fair price and Master Joseph Wu is a true Master.

[jesed]

Hi Magdalena

Be aware about this is not a professional advice in Feng Shui; maybe a methaphora: this is like paramedic's first aid.. you still need the doctor's attention in ER http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/happy.gif

22 changing to 30

1.- 22 is Total combination... sign of armony. In general, good feng shui.
2.- You are in line 1, which is Rabbit line. Rabbit is wood; and both month (Pig) and day (Rat) are water. Water produces wood. This mean: this house is benefical for you to live.
3.- The Good Chi is represented by "Money" aspect in Line 3, wich is Pig. This means Good Chi is very strong in the House (water line in day and month of water). Line 3 is the living room and the interior space of the house. There is the best chi in the house.
4.- Active Line is Line 4. Line 4 represents the main entrance of the house. Line 4 is Earth (Dog), under "Brother" aspect. Brother aspect destroy Money aspect. Earth destroys Water. So, this site of the house is afecting the good Chi. It means: you have a problem in the main entrace of the house. "Brother" aspect is about brothers, and competitors. So, people living with that problem could have relationship/familiar problems. "Brotherhood" in this house could be dificult for people living with that problem.

Best wishes

[bruce]

Jesed, very interesting.

Rosada, I?ll have you know that I have a Masters in Feng Shui from SSHU (School of Supreme Hippness University). Just kidding, of course.

You picked up, I guess, on the word ?minimalize? (not even a real word, me thinks?), suggesting that reducing clutter was the meaning of what I was saying. But that is not what I was saying. I?m saying that balance and order is inherent in nature, and so when one looks through natural eyes, they can find that same balance within their home or office, or anywhere. Do you really believe that intuition has nothing to do with Feng Shui, and that it is a simple matter of putting iron here and wood there, with the help of a compass, of course? Is this also how you see the Yi? Or might they be greater than the sum of its parts, and with an intelligence which finds its own way? Ya know, like the Dao.

God, this civilization has become so analytical and mechanical. Not that mechanics aren?t useful; they obviously are. But to exclude the creative process from life, to rely on formulas and methods, it just seems so sterile to me. But perhaps those are the very people who need a Feng Shui master to do it for them.

[bruce]

Putting up or shutting up: this is my impression of Feng Shui. I took the photo and did the graphics. There was no formula or method. It just? happened.

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/messages/92/5622.jpg

[jesed]

Hi Bruce

Yes..

and no... because you DID use some formulas and methods of "computer programation" to take the picture and do the graphics and post it in this forum... isn't? http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/happy.gif

Objective, subjective, rational, intuitive, mind, body, soul.. all of this are part of Natural Energy (Chi).

If I understand you well (forgive me if I misunderstand you), your point is "not reduce Life to mathematical methods". I'm tottaly agree with you. Feng Shui use mathematical methods and calculations, but is not reduced to that.

Aplly mechanically the "healings" and the calculations is not Feng Shui. But Feng Shui is not, on the other hand, just intuition. As I told before, even in mathematical method for reading Yi Jing, intuition is not exclueded. The same apllies to Feng Shui.

Just in case the comment could be useful:
The point is: I use methods and calculations to understand.. then I aplly my non-intentionated mind to that reality.

As traditional teachings told: "the Sage uses the Action to achieve Non-action".

Is almost imposible to achieve directly non-action.. one uses action to achieve it later.
Is almost imposible to achieve Heaven directly without living in the World, one live in the World to achieve Heaven.
Is almost imposible to achieve inocent (non-intentionated) sincronization with reality directly without methods to understand reality, one uses methods to achieve inocent sincronization with reality.

But, of course, one have to be aware of not forget the goal by remainging stock in the tools. Don't forget the Heaven while you live in World; don't forget the Non-Action whil you Act; don't forget Inocence (intuition or creativity) while you apply methods and calculations.

Best wishes

[rosada]

Jesed - I do not know this method for being able to diagnose a house based on an I Ching toss, but it certainly was right on with the problem at Magdalina's house.
Can you prescribe the necessary cure then? Or does that require the live practitioner? [For those unfamiliar with these ideas..To bring balance with an Earth/Water situation, the cure is to introduce Metal (Earth dams Water, but Earth creates Metal and then Metal creates Water [think mercury running like water] so introducing Metal resolves the block and gets the chi flowing), but you haven't said where she should put it. By the entrance?

Bruce - I don't want to appear to be debating the validity of your SSHU degree. I know you are a Master ;-) However, there is a school of thought known as "Compass School Feng Shui" who's basic precepts have nothing to do with intuition. The Idiot's Guide to Feng Shui outline's Compass School's principles if you want to know more about it.

[bruce]

Jesed, yes, my friend, I did say that mechanics are useful. And I completely respect the result, no matter how one gets there. I do think we understand each other well. http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/zen2.gif

[bruce]

Oh, that sounds like my kind of book, Rosada. But I'm too busy following my own idiot. http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/biggrin.gif

[val]

Bruce...

Thank you for sharing your creation. It's sublimely serene.


Love,

Val

[bruce]

Thanks, Val. Coming from an artist that's a real compliment. The branch is mulberry, btw. Supposed to save one from extinction. http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/wink.gif

[jesed]

Hi Rosada

Well.. feng Shui ommmmmmmm

There are several Schools... some more closer than others to traditional knowledge. A brief and excelent description of those schools in "Feng Shui Made Really Easy ebook" of Master Joseph Yu (http://www.astro-fengshui.com/index.html) This ebook is free.

One school points to the entire phisical enviroment around the house. If this entire enviroment is bad, no matter how many cures you use, your house still receive bad energy.

When using Yi Jing for Feng Shui evaluation, inner trigram is INSIDE the house and outer trigram is OUTSIDE the house. With bad chi in line 4, the problem is that the house is receiving bad energy from the closer enviroment... or not retaining good chi inside.

I guess (aware, this is just suposition) the problem could be a) the orientation of the house (maybe facing North or West?); b) something blocking energy infront the main door; c) to much trafic near main door.

It would be negligent and dishonest if I would sugesst anything more. The best is find a good trained practitioner to do an in-place evaluation.

[rosada]

Jesed and Magdalina,

Thank you for this ebook Jesed!
According to Master Sang (asfs.com) older homes have a problem maintaining chi, this certainly fits with what your analysis reveals.
Also according to Master Sang some houses are "Bad for people (relationships)" because the street wisks the chi away. Again this fits with your idea that there may be too much traffic near the main door. The cure for such houses is to have a wall or large rock, a symbolic mountain, in frount of the house between the frount door and the street. To know if this really is the problem reguires looking at the compass, but since it's a fairly common problem and since your IChing reading suggests it, I thought I would post the cure. Can't hurt to put up a symbolic rock in the frount yard, even if the feng shui doesn't require it!
But as Jesed says, if you can find one, Magdalena, a live practitioner is best. Really to try to analize what to do this way just gives feng shui a bad name.

Onward...

[heylise]

We had our front door to the West, even North-West. Sales and everything were not bad, but not good either.
Then we changed a lot of things, one of them was making a new front to the South (bit West). Sales exploded. It was done on intuition.
Later in a FengSui book, I found all the ingredients. To the West we had a nice meandering road, not too busy, but just enough traffic. To the North a huge barn with a black roof, which was one of the causes for changing the front. Big and black and kind of hanging over our place. Now it feels more like a wall against cold Northern winds. To the East open fields with pieces of woods, nice green "hills" of trees. A few years after changing the front, to the South we got our own little shop, which we sold then to the lady who runs it and looks like the Phenix it(him, her?)-self, and turned the shop into a brightly colored fairytale house.
So we have the four animals on the four sides, the black northern turtle, the green eastern dragon, the fiery southern phenix and the white western tiger (the road). Business is great.

So I think FengShui started out as intuition, was turned into rules, and comes back from those to intuition. Maybe you can skip the first intuition, some people indeed don't have that one. But after the rules, I think you do need the end-intuition. I don't think only rules can make a place living.

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/messages/92/5631.jpghttp://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/messages/92/5632.jpg

Hesitated to post the pictures, after Bruce' beautiful mulberry picture, so full of atmosphere. Seems phenixes make lots of color-noise...

LiSe

[bruce]

lol! I LOVE the color-noise. Fairy tales do live. Maybe this picture is 42?

[micheline]

love it love it love it

[heylise]

In case you cannot find the phenix herself: she is sitting in front of the sign, left photo. She will be very proud of being here in Clarity with her creation. Phenixes love to be seen.

LiSe

[rosada]

It makes ya happy just to look at it!
What fun!

[jesed]

Just to avoid misunderstandings:

I wouldn't suggest anything before an in-place evaluation.

a) If the problem is to much traffic, built a "mountain" in front is wise.. but if the problem is something blocking the energy come inside, a "mountain" only reinforce the problem http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/happy.gif.
b) If the problem is door doesn't retain energy inside, maybe is "yinn" door (example: not solid door, but with to much cristal) in that case, is enough to change the door
c) If the problem is the house receive to much "good chi" (this is a problem too in traditional Feng Shui), is wise to make a "non-direct" road to access the house. (Straight lines lead to excess; curve lines lead to balance)
d) If the problem is the orientation.. well the best is what Lise did: change it. But, of course, not alwas you can do that.

... and so on.

Best wishes

[val]

Hi L...

Oh I saw those pictures on Anton's website some time ago... in the section about Petra Heyboer. I was wondering if it was her shop. Anyway, I really loved them then. I love them now. What a fun fun place that must be.

Love,

Val

[magdalena]

Jesed, thank you so much for your feng shui interpretation of the hexagrams. I do agree about the comment on line 4 - the front door of the house is located on the first floor so one has to walk quite a long set of steps to get to it and it faces a very busy road. There is a site door to the house which we have been using and I guess will keep using when we eventually move there. There is a large gated front yard, large enough to accommodate a rockery or a fountain, we've been planning to grow a tall hedge along the fences but I will discuss all the other options with my partner. (I actually tried to attach a photo of the house without success, lost my original message during the process and am writing it again... Heylise, how did you attach yours??)

Anyway, Rosada and Jesed, thanks for the Feng Shui links as well, there are some good articles on the Research site one. Im on the lookout for a good practicioner in London as well, your comments have been really helpful as I had no idea before what/who to look for at all and what to avoid. I hope the problems can be overcome...

[heylise]

Val

If you ever come this way, then let me know. I'd be happy to show you around. Here, everything is mismatched, funky enough but I doubt if it is 'chic'. But I think you'd love it. Well, I do..

LiSe

[jesed]

Hi Magdalena:

Here, a few links; in case them could be useful:

1.- Profesional advice from Master Raymond Lo (without in place visit)
http://www.raymond-lo.com/ver2/proservices/fsevaluation.asp

2.- List of graduate students, trained by Master Raymond Lo (several in United Kingdom)
http://www.raymond-lo.com/ver2/aboutmasterlo/graduates.asp

3.- List of practitioners trained by Master Joseph Yu (one in England)
http://www.canadafengshui.com/ArtOf/FSRC.htm

Best wishes

[heylise]

Magdalena,
To attach a picture, type a backslash (\)and then: image{Text description}, no spaces in between.
I will not put it in as it should be, otherwise it will ask me to upload the picture.
In the preview, there is a little window "your picture here" for every picture. Then you post it, and you are asked for the location of the picture. Hit 'browse' and find its whereabouts in your own computer.

At the left of this page in Clarity, is a link to 'formatting', there you can find everything.

Hope it works
LiSe

[bradford_h]

Hi Magdalena-
Some time ago we set up a whole thread to practice graphics and formatting on, where we didn't have to embarrass ourselves too much or muck up an active thread. One of the first big lessons is to post small graphics, at least less that 50 kb.

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/messages/786/1707.html

[magdalena]

Oh my goodness, you are one bunch of geniuses! Bradford, I used your link and it worked! Thank you LiSe for this...

Ok, here is the house in all its pride and glory... you can see the much-discussed-bad-bad-feng-shui main entrance and the side entrance that we will end up using when we move in.. What do you think....?

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/messages/92/5651.jpg

[magdalena]

Ooops, came out a "little bit" off centre...

[bruce]

Large images are best reduced, Magdalena. If you don't have the means to do this, in the future you can email them to me. IE:

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/messages/92/5653.jpg

If you want to remove the large image, click back into your profile, then click on the post you sent. You can delete or edit recent posts there.

[jte]

Hrmm. This thead seems to have gotten a bit off track...

Couldn't resist. =)

- Jeff

[magdalena]

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/lol.gifhttp://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/lol.gifhttp://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/lol.gif

Mea culpa...

[jesed]

Maybe is off track.... maybe not.

1.- Magadalena asked about her intention of change an inner wall in order to make her home warmer

2.- Her answer points: not to do that

3.- Then Magdalena asked about the energy in her home (Feng Shui)

4.- Her new answer points: the best energy is in inner place; the real problem is not in inner place but in main entrance.

5.- If you join first answer (numer 2 in this post) and the second answer (number 4 in this post) you can get:

"don't change the inner wall, because there is the best energy of your house, the real problem is not in that wall but in the main door of your house".

If this is correct, I guess the post is still ON TRACK

Best wsihes

[void]

Everything in this thread including text is now so wide I can't read it it without moving the bar along ....wow Magdalena that is a BIG house !

[heylise]

Petra's reaction to having her house in this thread:

Ben zeer vereerd! I am very proud of beiing in Clarity! Wat een leuke reakties en een prachtige foto van Bruce. Liefs petra.
(Am very honored. Such nice reactions, and a beautiful picture of Bruce. Love, Petra)

[void]

Hey LiSe I dreamt about you last night - in a kind of shop place, like that picture, where a row of people were working at a table in the next room. Funny thing was I could not properly meet you because someone was carrying me, carrying me upright like people carry children on their hip or against their body - it was very uncomfortable and I had no control over how long I stayed anywhere, because this person carried me, lol. (I have the feeling I wanted you to show me something you had done) I did however manage to introduce myself and shake your hand, before my carrier whisked me away. Nice to meet you anyway, lol.

[heylise]

Hi Void, nice to meet you too. Must be the internet which whisks us away all the time. Like shaking my hand and it reaches me two days later...

There is a big parking lot with trees around, would be nice if all of us could meet there! Setting up tables with sun-shades - uum, why not get some summer sun for the occasion too? - and wander from one table to the other, everywhere talking and laughing.

LiSe

[void]

I loved the picture of the colourful house/shop, reminds me of the sugar house in Handsel and Gretel (if i got that right ? they were lured into a house of candy I think to be eaten ?)

Yes us Europeans can just about meet on a parking lot on the astral plane, lol, but the Americans are always awake when we are sleeping I think.