53 - 4,5,6 -> 62Hi...

[krista]

Hi...
Ive asked IChing today if I will ever be contacted by someone again. The answer is 53, lines 4,5,6 turning into 62. Any ideas about this? Thank you a lot.

[frank]

Hi Krista,

53, lines 4,5,6 to 62 tells me there is a chance that you will meet someone, but not in the short run and not with the speed you desire. A special hint from the Yi, though is also not to look to far for that person... he / she is closer by then you think, and when you run that fast, you will miss him / her...

Huggie,
Frank

[krista]

Thank you, Frank. Correct me please if I am wrong. By your interpretation I will hear from this person again and I better not speed anything or push because if I do it I will lose the person?
If so, Frank, wait is the best I can do? If that is correct, should I put myself on the 'show', I mean, let me be visible for this person to always see me and feel the need again to talk to me or should I just disappear for a while? Please, would you clarify this to me according to your so good interpretation of Yi?
Thank you a lot, once again.

PS. By 'this person is closer to me than I think'.... it means Im being noticed by this person? Ty.

[void]

I'm not sure why Frank has come to the conclusion he has. As discussed elsewhere with these kind of 'relationship questions' its quite misleading to put your hope in a reading like this.

Infact my experience has shown 53,6 most often the leaving behind of something for good. Maybe you will see the person again,maybe Frank is right, but I don't see how he gets there and I don't see fostering false hope as useful.

[void]

Er I'd also love to know why Frank thinks this answer indicates the person is closer than she thinks ?? How does 53, 4,5 and 6 show this ?

[frank]

Hi Krista and Void,

First of all, I NEVER mentioned ANYONE... Second, I said... there will be someone but not in the short run, so NOT the one you are after, and NOT NOW (gradual progress > 53)... Third, by looking at the changing lines, I usualy do not read the text but look to the structure and there is a method that says that changing lines are yang, as they are action, they move, so by making lines 4,5 & 6 yang (solid lines), and the lines 1,2,3 Yin (NOT solid lines), as they DO NOT MOVE, you get 12: Standstill... there is no-one in the near future... Still 62 to me is a nest close by, don't search to far for someone... (Fourth...)

That's what I see... And I had no intention what so ever to give false hope, because that's rude, and I'm not rude :-D...

Hang in there,

Hug,
Frank

[void]

How strange we must have read Kristas question in a completely different way. I took her question to mean she is asking about a specific person she has known in the past. She is asking if this person will contact her again. You seem to take it she is asking about anyone ? I don't think she is asking "will anyone contact me" - well it wouldn't make much sense to ask that. I do not think she is asking if she will meet someone she does not yet know, but someone she has known before. Thats how I read her question.

Personally I have reservations about being very definate about whether people will reunite. If you think it is possible to be very definate about such things thats fine, I was just giving my view. As was discussed at length on another thread for reasons as yet pretty much unknown, when it comes to relationship questions many find the answers they receive just never tally with what actually happens. We discussed all the reasons this might be there.

Its for that reason I worry to see someone very joyful at a promised reunion and then it never actually transpires. And believe me I have seen that over and over and over again.

[krista]

I was asking yes about a specific person who I called 'someone', maybe my fault, but surely it is about someone I already know, if not I would not ask if I would be contacted again.
But things put, Frank's view gave me no glimpse of hope or false expectations at all. I was just trying to understand what he was actually telling me about this, so my need of clarification.
So, black and white, thing is: according to this reading this person WILL NOT contact me? Or the answer is not quite that simple?
Thank you again for any input here.

[frank]

Hi Void,

How bizare indeed that we have been reading this diferently... It's OK :-D. I've probably missed those earlier posts... Let's see what Krista herself has to say about this...

Huggie,
Frank

[frank]

Hi Krista...

NOT THE ONE YOU'RE AFTER... That's what I said earlier :-D...

I do not have the slightest idea if he will contact you, as he is NOT THE ONE... So even if he does... HE IS NOT THE ONE :-D... (sigh :-D)...

NOT NOW... I said that too...

Now I wander what you want to know... What is actualy your question so Void and I at least agree here for what we have been reading :-D...

Am I now to harsh? False hope, now harsh... sorry guys I myself am a bit off... Sorry... :-D

Huggie
Frank

[micheline]

I think Seeker answered this question very well, indirectly, in another post/thread, and I hope she doesnt mind if I quote her here, because it seems so relevant to this reading of 53.4.5.6

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>quote:</font>

the bad news is Yi is not a fortune teller and will not tell you whether or not things will work out with prince seemingly charming..... The good news is the answers will help you to learn about yourself and help you to become a whole and happy person, which in the end will make you desirabale to the real prince charming if that is still what you want.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

53.4.5.6 is not a negative reading and I suppose it COULD foretell a major breakthrough in this relationship after a delay...but in either case, it speaks of a step by step process in which one finally emerges with a grand new perspective and something that will always be of value. Won by faith and the ability to stand alone for a time.

[void]

Dear Frank you don't sound rude or harsh, quite the contrary.

I was just puzzled that you thought Krista was asking a general question about meeting someone - when she is infact asking about reuniting with someone she knows. Initially I thought you meant she was going to meet this person and they were closer than she thought, and I thought 'thats quite a strong prediction - I want to present another view.'.....but

Phew I think I'm making things more complicated as I go along so I'll butt out and let you get on with it http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/lol.gif

Krista I agree with Michelines post above. No one can tell you what 'will' happen for sure, but if you want to see this person again I hope you do.

[krista]

Hey guys, thanks for all this help, but ... I never said this is the person I think it is MY ONE or my prince charming... I just asked Yi if this person would ever contact me again.
So maybe the controversy about the way you read my post in so many different ways means that ...maybe... you have assumed things or... I expressed myself very bad!!! If thats my case, Im sorry. This person I care, but I know he is NOT MY ONE, but would like him to contact me again so asked the Yi. It was a complicated relationship, hard to tell... but I still care... although have proof enough it is not the right person for me, which doesnt mean I dont want to hear from this person again, right? Anyway, I think all these replies got me thinking a lot and help me heaps too. I thank you all so much and if anyone has something else to say please feel free to tell me.
xxxxxxx

[micheline]

NO, Krista, you didnt express yourself poorly. I think with the discussion going on about asking the Yi about love relationships, fantasy vs reality, that this post sounded like someone yearning for the lost love...sorry.

you did only ask if you would hear from the person again. Still, it is not possible to get a definitive yes or no...but I personally still would read it as I described above. There is a "waiting time" and it is valuable...you are perhaps in a position of being misunderstood or isolated? Ultimately you should expect to feel righted and even blessed by the outcome.

However, if pushed to a yes or no conclusion,I would have to venture my guess, by experience, that 53.6 represents an ending ...albeit one that you learn from.. an ending that was right and timely, forcing you to first, observe , then contentedly retreat, and finally move on...an experience that will benefit you in future. this JMHO ; )

[jte]

Hi, Krista -

I don't think my view is extremely different from the ones above, but I'd look at it as the lines individually applying to your question, as follows:

53.4 - for now you're separated from this person; however the hope of them contacting you is not all lost

53.5 - eventually, they will contact you; there will be some distractions/circumstances that hold them up

53.6 - the contact "period" will not last forever, and eventually your relation with them will become just a (cherished?) memory and life lesson learned

My 2 cents,

Jeff

[krista]

All your comments make complete sense to me and they are amazing. I thank you all so much for this and if anyone has something more to add please feel free to tell me as I learn from you all. xxx

[bruce]

Just a side note. In Hinduism, the wild gander, represented in 53, is known as the spirit of land, water and sky. As sky spirit it transcends the dualistic realm and penetrates the eternal. Line 6 also transcends temporal love and exists in a realm of eternal love and compassion; only by rising above duality. In this sense you've already been contacted and are engaging in relationship with both the object and subject of love.

[frank]

Hi guys,

I give my 2 cents to Jeff...

Frank

[jte]

Hi, Frank...

Ka- CHING!

:-)