57 penetration to 20 examining - how to handle a conversation with an ex

[catwoman]

*sigh*

I received some wonderful replies from others here regarding a reading concerning my ex and me, whether I should go for a relationship with him. I do agree it wouldn't be in my best interest. After arriving at this, I get an email from him, wanting to see me Saturday. I have to talk to him about this, try to understand where he's coming from, what he wants, etc. so I asked the I Ching, "How do I handle this talk with him?" I got this -

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57. Penetration
Line 2:

Penetration in the bed from below.
Consult records,
witches are confusing.
Good fortune,
without fault.

Bringing hidden influences to light. It is important to use sources of information that are reliable and unambiguous, to have certainty. Things go well, there is nothing wrong with doing this.
Line 3:

Repeated penetration.
Inadequate.

Repeatedly going over something. This doesn' t help.


Hexagram is changing to:
20. Examining

Examining.
Washed, but not offered.
There is confidence in discretion.

Examining what is there, without doing anything. This cautious and unrevealing attitude makes confidence possible.
(This is about a sacrificial offering, where the ritual consists of a washing and an offering.)
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I already know what I need to say; I'm just wondering if this reading is suggesting the way I do it or something else? I'd like to remain friends and don't want to tick him off. Sometimes people misunderstand my delivery...

Thanks much,
Sue

[dobro]

Maybe you should consider getting a better version of the Yi. That one you're using has some serious limitations.

[willowfox]

Hex 57.2,3 > 20

It does suggest that you need to talk to him to find out what his problem is. While Hex 20 suggests that you listen to him dispassionately, see where he is coming from but remain detached and aloof.

[diamanda]

57:2 - lots of oracles/castings have told you all the truth about the situation
57:3 - and you already know what you need to say, as you said,

so you do have a full view of the whole thing already, don't think about the
content of the discussion anymore. It seems the secret of how to handle the
discussion is in 20. Your behaviour should be calm and detached, and command
respect.

[mrmorrow]

Maybe dobro should get a better attitude.I think catwoman has a good basic grasp of the situation.my own take would be-Its worth you both meeting.As regards the relationship,I still feel that you should really wait and not be so rash.I feel the best is yet to come.Allow it to develope over time.

[trojan]

57.3 means rehashing the same old same old which is likley what you'll be doing in the talk. Theres probably been enough talking. Actions always speak louder than words. Distance and clarity (20) is needed rather than getiing buried in endless talking, looking for whys and wheres (57.2) and rehashing old stuff again (57.3) I've not read your other thread but my impression from this is it would be good for you to stop going over this in your mind all the time. Also be skeptical of how much good more talking will do anyway.

[dobro]

Maybe dobro should get a better attitude.I think catwoman has a good basic grasp of the situation.

Maybe mrmorrow should re-read what I wrote. I recommended getting a better version of the Yi, cuz I don't think it's a very good rendition. She'd get better results with a better version.

Maybe mrmorrow should examine his own attitude.

[mrmorrow]

what took you so long to reply-
6-6
over and out sir.

Bathing liberachi.
He doesent like coal tar soap you know.

[dobro]

You're such a troll, sweetheart.

When did you get out of rehab?

When do you think you'll be going back in?