PUP I Ching HELP!!!

[mistermd]

Hello, I'm Bob a physician running a huge chemical dependency rehabilitation program in Rochester, NY. I am certified in both Psychiatry and Internal Medicine but specialize in Addiction Medicine/Psychiatry. Although I've played around with the yijing for almost a decade, after taking Hilary's Course with Tuition I have discovered the great clinical benefits of applying the oracle's insight to help get my patients unstuck in their recovery efforts. It also has been a boon to developing a daily spiritual ritual with the aim of making concious contact with God, as we understand God, eg a Higher Power. The application of the I Ching to Step 11 was acknowledged by Bill Wilson, a cofounder of AA, in a letter to Carl Jung in 1960 (just before he died). Most AA's have become pc addicts and a wonderful computer program embodying the Wilhelm/Baynes translation (puplished by Princeton University Press)and known by the name PUP I Ching helped them learn the intricacies of yarrow divination and facilitated the development of a personal daily practice aimed at spiritual growth that could be applied to the real outside world and not a substitute for the mental masturbation that I often find in I Ching chat rooms with oriental psychobable. Now the problem. This program was developed for Windows 95 and 98. I can't get it to install in Windows XP. I've talked to the people at Macrovision and Quick Time but all my efforts were to no avail. So if there are any pc wizards out their in our Clarity Community I would gladly send you a copy of the programs CD (it is no longer available and I have permision to play around with it). So any help would be most appreciated. The best address to reach me now is RobertLMickMD@aol.com. So I pray that some pc expert programmer will take a gamble. Just send me a note and I'll send the entire program on CD-ROM to you. Just leave your name and address. If you would like to talk to me, my number is 1-585-657-7228.
Thanks,
Dr Bob

[cheiron]

Mistermd

Hi

XP has a little hidden gizmo which might even demonstrate someone had their lights on when it was done..

Try this...

Put he disk in the drive... locate the setup.exe file... right click on it... select properties... check the bock 'run as'... select widows 95.

Off you go.

Let me know if it works.


All the best with your work

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/happy.gif

--Kevin

Emailing you privately as ?cheiron? Big Grin

[candid]

Kev, thanks, I didn't know that.

Doc: "aimed at spiritual growth that could be applied to the real outside world and not a substitute for the mental masturbation that I often find in I Ching chat rooms with oriental psychobable." ?

You charmer you.

[arien]

Hey Bob, I wonder if you could describe a little better what type of support you give your patients using the Yi. Are you using it as a psychoanalysis tool?
I am very interested in addictive behaviour and strategies to deal with it, I feel it is one area where there is a real need for help nowadays. The yi can certainly aid troubled minds, and addictive diseases recovery.
Im not a 12 step fan, my view of it is that it is self diminishing, yet if it works for some people then I have no right to criticize. In any case, I was also curious about your statement of using the Yi for step 11, and that letter to Jung
Sorry if Im not helping with your original question, its just that since you are here, Im sure most people would appreciate you going more at length over your work with the needed

Oh, and good luck with your problem http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/happy.gif

[jte]

"The application of the I Ching to Step 11 was acknowledged by Bill Wilson, a cofounder of AA, in a letter to Carl Jung in 1960 (just before he died)."

Do you happen to know where a copy of this letter or documentation of this can be found? (E.g., maybe in a biography of Bill Wilson or ?? ) I'd be intestered in checking it out if that is possible. Thanks!

- Jeff

[megabbobby]

hey bob, i was wondering if you'd ever had a lobotomy before?

[candid]

LOL.. bobby, you nut! http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/happy.gif

[mistermd]

Jeff, the reference is found on page 280 of the book "The Language of the Heart" which is a collection of all of Bill Wilson's "Grapevine" articles. It can be purchased for under $10 at any Alcoholics Anonymous Central Office. It also can be ordered from Amazon:

ISBN 0-933685-16-5

The relevant paragraph is from the section "The Bill W. - Carl Jung Letters" beginning at the bottom of page 279:

"You will also be interested to learn that in addition to the 'spiritual experience,' many AAs report a great variety of psychic phenomenon, the cumulative weight of which is very considerable. Other members have -- following their recovery in AA -- been much helped by your practitioners. A few have been intrigued by the "I Ching" and your remarkable introduction to that work."

Thanks for your interest,
Bob Mick
Rochester, NY
585-657-7228

[mistermd]

Dear Megabbobby,

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy! What about you? Narcissistic Personality Disordered folks could do with a lot of shaving of the excess frontal lobe gray matter.

Have a good week,
Mister MD

[cheiron]

Mistermd

I was a little surprised that you did not bother to nod vague thanks for the trouble I took to help you...

Its a funny thing... quite a few people come to this site and ask for help re. a question they have asked the Yijing... one does an hours work preparing and typing an answer and quite a few querrants don't bother to reply? Sad

(I am no longer doing any reading assistance for folk who sign on as Anonymous.)

Re. The other programme I mentioned in private email - I have now managed to get it running on XP.

If the suggestion I gave you does not work for your programme come back to me.

--Kevin

[mistermd]

Kevin, this is Bob with the PUP problem. I am grateful for the time and effort you put into trying to help me with this W95 to WXP programming mystery. I did try your method using the various compatibility modes for installation and running the I Ching program but I still keep getting the same two error messages as before. I am new to this community so I still am confused about how to make individual contact versus community contact via e-mail. I just discovered that a forum was devoted to this PUP I Ching business which I initially posted under another screen name 2 years ago and I am getting mail from that site also. Please accept my apologies for not expressing my gratitude for all your effort. I just didn't know where to send it personally. So this I guess will probably be posted for everyone to gander at. I will try to find your personal address also.
Forgive me,
Bob

[cheiron]

Bob

No problem.

I could not get the compatibility settings to work on my I Ching programme either.

A lot of Win 95 stuff was also made compatible with Windows 3.1... the previous platform.

Install your program and then go to Programme folder and then the PUP folder... If it is your lucky day you will see two .exe files one for the Win 95 installation and the other for the 3.1 installation.... Click on the 'not Win 95' one.

You may also find you can run it in Dos too.

Win 3.5 was primitive by today?s standards and I guess it made little use of the registry... so they seem to work on XP.

Do let me know how you get on... I sent you an email offering you another programme which I now have running using the trick above... use that to reply...

If it is not too big and you email it to me I am happy to fiddle about and write an .bat file to run it in dos if this option is available... Sorry if that is inappropriate, you may well be far more advanced than I in these matters.

--Kevin

[lenardthefast]

Dr Bob.,

With regards to answering by personal email: click on the postee's name on the site, at the top of the post, and if they haven't been too shy to post one, you will go to their profile which usually has their email, once again, IF they have posted it IN their profile. Most folks here do.

Hoping this helps. http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/happy.gif

Namaste,
http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/hex04.gif
Leonard

[jte]

Bob - Thanks very much for the info. Does the book have more than that on the impact/role of the I Ching, or is it just that paragraph? (I ask so that I can decide whether to buy it or not.)

I appreciate your taking time from what must be a very busy schedule to answer.

- Jeff

[lenardthefast]

I am joining with Kev here. I will no longer post answers to posts from Anonymous. To me the Yi is VERY personal, and if you can't give me a name(make one up!) AND a personal email(once again, open a free mailbox on Yahoo!, or Hotmail, or whatever, and create an identity). You will still be 'anonymous', but, you will have shown some EFFORT, something that all of you "Anonymous's" are asking US to do for you. I do not do this out of anger or actually any negative feeling that I am aware of, I just think that 'Anonymous' is plain rude, not to mention a tad 'lazy'.

Namaste,
http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/clipart/hex04.gif
Leonard

ps: If you don't know how to create an identity or open a free online mailbox, just contact me in the Open Space area, here on the site, and I will show you how.