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fatequeen
December 12th, 2009, 01:32 PM
Hi there and Happy Holidays everyone....

I asked the Ching 'what does he want with me?' and got Hex 25.5 to 21. No idea what to make of it. Anyone?

rosada
December 12th, 2009, 10:23 PM
He's projecting some very impure fantasies:rolleyes: on you but its not your fault.

rosada

my_key
December 13th, 2009, 12:14 AM
Hi there and Happy Holidays everyone....

I asked the Ching 'what does he want with me?' and got Hex 25.5 to 21. No idea what to make of it. Anyone?

What does he want with you? That's a good question.
He wants to work through something with you. It's a very difficult thing for hime to do and he is approaching this in the best way that he can. He is having some real mental strife and it's not clear whether or not he is fully in control of all his actions. All in all this is coming across to you as very confused messages. Between the two of you there is an attraction that has to be resolved...neither of you are at fault here but you both need to make the best of what the situation has to offer you. Be aware that this is not an easy situation for him as it means that a lot of new thoughts and actions have to be adopted. You can do only your best and so can he.
Mike

fatequeen
December 13th, 2009, 05:00 AM
He's projecting some very impure fantasies:rolleyes: on you but its not your fault.

rosada

How do you get that from 25.5? I thought it was all about being sick and not using medicine or something?

fatequeen
December 13th, 2009, 05:08 AM
What does he want with you? That's a good question.
He wants to work through something with you. It's a very difficult thing for hime to do and he is approaching this in the best way that he can. He is having some real mental strife and it's not clear whether or not he is fully in control of all his actions. All in all this is coming across to you as very confused messages. Between the two of you there is an attraction that has to be resolved...neither of you are at fault here but you both need to make the best of what the situation has to offer you. Be aware that this is not an easy situation for him as it means that a lot of new thoughts and actions have to be adopted. You can do only your best and so can he.
Mike

This is a guy I knew at a distance years ago from a music venue we both used to frequent and both started frequenting again..., but he has since married. We ended up dancing together on the dance with a group of people and could just feel lots of sparks. He said to me afterwards (in front of two people): "Why didn't I go after you years ago? Oh that's right... you were seeing someone then. Too late now ... I'm married!" I told him at the end of the night I shared his sentiments and it was like a lightbulb went off over my head and I cried the whole ride home to my surprise thinking about what could have been. The guy I was with at the time turned out to be cheating on me and a real ********.

Anyway, I started to get over the whole thing a few days later, but upon returning to the music venue he approached me again and then a few days later drove an hour and a half to one of my own musical events. He told me there "I havent' felt the way I do dancing with you about anyone in a long, long time." He told me he had come to hear me sing and wanted to dance with me. I said "I'm not sure about that" He looked really hurt and said "Would you rather I ask someone else!" I told him "Look.. I'd like to dance with you but I'm not sure I can handle it" "Why not??" he asked. I said "It gets a little too hot". He laughed and said "Good" and dragged me onto the dance floor. While I was singing he danced with another woman most the night. He looked really sad as the night went on and announced he was going to leave early and patted me twice on the shoulder as he walked by me. Then we both saw each other two more times since (unplanned) back at the music venue. He asked me to dance with him later, but ended up leaving early. I ended up deciding to email yesterday (I had his address from a previous general email from the music venue) and asked if it was still his current email. He replied "yes" and mentioned I did a great job singing the night before. I responded that I was bummed he left early and I was looking forward to dancing with him. He hasn't responded for 2 days now.

I think he's been married about 2 years and also has a 2 year old son. A friend of mine noticed he hasnt' worn his wedding ring since the first night we reunited. I really dont know what to do and have never been in a situation like this before. I'm guessing his marriage isn't going wel considering he has been frequenting the music venue a lot and expressing so much interst in me... but I haven't had an opportunity to ask him about it.

trojan
December 13th, 2009, 02:55 PM
Hi there and Happy Holidays everyone....

I asked the Ching 'what does he want with me?' and got Hex 25.5 to 21. No idea what to make of it. Anyone?

why no idea ? no idea at all ? 25 is about 'disentangling' right...what you described in your long story above sounds like a tangle you are trying to untangle in your mind by speculations and guess work and what he said she said he said she said...so what does 25.5 advise ? Does it advise you to get further involved in the tangle do you think ?

No it says don't try to remedy it, don't try to disentangle it.

Of course if you think its not advice to you but about whats in his head... well I'll leave you to figure that

fatequeen
December 13th, 2009, 03:04 PM
All I could gather from line 5 was illness and not using medicine. I couldn't figure out what that had to do with what he wants with me.

trojan
December 13th, 2009, 03:10 PM
All I could gather from line 5 was illness and not using medicine. I couldn't figure out what that had to do with what he wants with me.

its probably just telling you not to bother trying to figure this out. Why do you think Yi is going to give you instant techni colour access to someone elses thoughts anyway. Sometimes it can in some circumstances but IMO probably this time it isn't its more like advising you to stop trying to figure it.

I could be wrong but its for you to figure out the meaning of the imagery, obviously you can't take it literally unless you think theres some actual illness happening here...

other people might have views on what it means hes thinking but they will all be guesses as mine is as obviously noone can tell you what hes thinking except him....meanwhile you just seem to be taking peoples answers and sitting here helplessly waiting to be fed more...as if someone actually could tell you..oh well you enjoy fantasy its up to you i guess

fatequeen
December 13th, 2009, 03:15 PM
The only translation that I found that gave me remote insight was: "When non-involvement because a disease, laughter is the best medicine." I am feeling very love sick over this... maybe he is too. I came here and asked because I know people here have a lot of understanding of the Ching.

my_key gave a very helpful interpretation... (thanks my_key). I'm sure I'm not the first person to ask a question like this and maybe even regarding this hexagram and line.

trojan
December 13th, 2009, 03:27 PM
I'd say Mykeys answer was one possibility amongst many about what was happening in someones elses head. In any answer to any question its like that just each individuals take , but when it comes to what other people are thinking i just find it really daft because only they know what they are thinking IMO...or whats the point of loads of people guessing whats in this mans mind about you...especially as IMO its tells you to quit trying to figure it out :rolleyes:

Anyway you're right most people here ask these kind of questions you are just the 1000th one that made me wish they didn't but thats my problem i suppose :rolleyes: don't mind me..............:brickwall:

(correction its not most people its most women...all women seem to think about is what men are thinking about them. Men don't ask this kind of question much at all...they probably aren't that much bothered with what women are thinking..women just waste hours and hours imagining what men are thinking about them., meanwhile men watch football... or something )

fatequeen
December 13th, 2009, 03:34 PM
Actually, I have found the Ching to be very accurate in the past when I've asked what another person was thinking.. I just couldn't make heads or tails of this reading.

trojan
December 13th, 2009, 04:02 PM
Actually, I have found the Ching to be very accurate in the past when I've asked what another person was thinking.. I just couldn't make heads or tails of this reading.

How did you know it was accurate as a matter of interest ? Did you ask them ? Or did you surmise that they must have been thinking what you thought they were thinking in light of their subsequent actions ?

The only way i think you could know if you were accurate was if you later asked them and they told you the truth.

fatequeen
December 13th, 2009, 04:07 PM
The only way i think you could know if you were accurate was if you later asked them and they told you the truth.

This ^

BTW your comment on women vs. men and football... explains a lot about why women are intellectually superior. ;)

rosada
December 13th, 2009, 05:45 PM
You asked how I came to the conclusion that he was projecting some inappropriate fantasies in your direction from 25.5...

"Use no medicine in an illness incurred through no fault of your own."
This suggested to me that you were feeling uncomfortable about the signals he was sending you because on a gut level you knew there was something there that was not healthy and indeed, it turns out he's a married man with a two year old child so you were right to feel uncomfortable about his attention.

Now however it sounds like you are ignoring your inner guidance and trying to medicate this mental confusion by trying to make it okay that you are interested in a married man. This wont work because it's not okay and your inner guidance was not at fault.

"It will pass of itself."
His interest in you will pass so it really wont matter long whether his intentions were honorable anyway.
-rosada

fatequeen
December 13th, 2009, 05:52 PM
Yeah I do feel like this is all his fault for having opened his mouth about his feelings about me... although I dont think he said with intent to harm...he even said it in front of people. I was bummed on the ride home that night. I thought that would be the end of it. The torment has gotten worse every time he approaches me now.


"Now if you..." were you trying to type something else here?

rosada
December 13th, 2009, 09:52 PM
Jax woke up so I had to stop writing. I've now gone back and revised, completed the post.
Yes he was an ass, but when you're a gorgeous babe these things happen. Just face forward and keep moving.:)
-rosada

ginnie
December 14th, 2009, 02:56 AM
You asked how I came to the conclusion that he was projecting some inappropriate fantasies in your direction from 25.5...

because on a gut level you knew there was something there that was not healthy

Maybe the 25.5 means he's lying in bed with an icepack on his head, because, if he's a mature person, he knows it was just a lot of sexual attraction on the dance floor while the music was playing. Fantasies and illusions can cause us great suffering.

fatequeen
December 14th, 2009, 04:50 AM
Maybe the 25.5 means he's lying in bed with an icepack on his head, because, if he's a mature person, he knows it was just a lot of sexual attraction on the dance floor while the music was playing. Fantasies and illusions can cause us great suffering.

Why do you assume his feelings for me are just sexual in nature?