December 16th, 2008, 03:40 PM
32, no changing lines
I'm fresh out of "the" relationship, I'm in recovery and new at experiencing life alone. But things aren't necessarily that bad now, I had a lot to learn from it, I feel like a completely different person and I honestly thank God I met this guy, even though things didn't work out between us.
I asked what do I need to know now regarding my relationship with A, I got 32, no changing lines. Beautiful :)
I don't know how to understand it, should I only look at this regarding my future in general, is there more to think about regarding "the" boy?
Help.. please? :)
December 16th, 2008, 04:09 PM
That your relationship with A will remain the same, nothing will change, ie you will remain separated.
December 16th, 2008, 04:26 PM
Continue as you are
Whatever you are now doing, continue the same way.
December 16th, 2008, 04:56 PM
your post has sent me off into little ripples of nostalgia! 32 was the first ever hex that taught me something about the ching by direct long term experience (although it meant little to me at the time).
2 caveats before I explain: many times 32 means enduring in how it is now or finding what endures, secondly when I received it while in a similar position to you and with similar thoughts about the boy (I learnt so much from being with him, he changed my life/view of the world - without trying to, I had no regrets - although I was heartbroken at the time), I had little idea about the ching and meanwhile other massive things were going on in my life so receiving this hex didn't give me any 'hope' and I didn't dwell on it and I give thanks for that.
This happened more than 25 years ago and I can tell you he is still in my life and indeed he has invited me to his wedding next year. In between we have passed through many variations - returning to each other as lovers several times, the raising of our kids alongside each other (we both had one each when we met), he was the first person to come and see my 2nd child at birth, and I have known all his girlfriends. Years after the first split we acknowledged that we had both learned so much from each other although it has not been without pain on both sides at times.
I have to say that despite this profound connection we both got on with our individual lives, at times in different countries, but for me he has been like the base line in a reggae tune - constantly there beneath the melody of my life. Although we don't write letters or phone or do any of the conventional things to maintain relations.
The man concerned is mostly a law unto himself but he knew himself at a young age and a person who really knows themselves and has the capacity for honesty is a wonderful and very rare thing. When we were kids he told me that the relation would only ever end if I ended it and he wasn't being romantic it was a bald statement of fact.
Every few years I would rediscover the hex (I'd written it inside a book cover) but it only clicked with me many many years later.
But I hesitated before I answered you because I don't want you to think that my experience is a definitive meaning of hex 32 and therefore it will be the same for you.
Maybe what really endures for me in relation to this guy is the way having him in my life helped me define so many important and lasting ideas about myself in the world and how I wanted to be in the world.
Our kids are now older than we were when we met and meanwhile I guess it's an ongoing story how 32 no?
So there you go what can I say? Go forth bravely into your own life and carry with you the good things the relationship gave you then it truely endures no?
best wishes lucia
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December 17th, 2008, 07:55 AM
I have seen this hex somewhere else on this forum, and it received the same advice, the relationship will continue in it's present state (separated) or keep doing what you are doing right now. I don't feel that way.
Lucia's experience is a good example, i believe. If the I Ching would have wanted to show you a parting of ways, or something like that, it would have done so. There are other Hexagrams that show you going in different directions, starting different lives altogether. This is different. This shows duration. The trigrams are working together, you have Sun, eldest daughter and Chen, eldest son. They are both wood elements, and lines correspond. This should not be neglected
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December 17th, 2008, 09:06 AM
Thank you all for your replies!
Lucia, thank you for sharing your life story with me. My best friend's influence in my life is similar (a guy, friends since we were kids, surfed through the romantic stage, didn't work and almost destroyed the friendship, but we survived), we don't have families yet, but I surely hope we'll be able to spend our best moments together.
A's been the person who changed everything for me, I'm not sure he truly understands how :) but it's enough for me to know and be thankful for it.
32 is a very inspiring hexagram for me, especially at this time. A's been the one who introduced me to IC and he's been telling me how important it would be for me to invest some time with it right now, ask about my situation and what must I do to put my life in order.
I've always felt- no matter how tough the situation was- that we had/have a connection beyond space and time; I know it sounds too sweet, but that's how I feel :) And hey, we don't even talk right now (it's still very hard for me), but that isn't changing my feelings...
So Lucia, I'm very happy for you, I hope you will always be there for each other. In my case, regarding A, only time will tell. 32 is telling me to be constant, regular and stable, things I haven't been good at in the past.
Thank you for your kind words.
December 17th, 2008, 09:23 AM
I didn't see your post while I was replying. Thank you for answer.
I don't feel like parting ways either, but things aren't that easy right now, and since we're talking about duration, it's a process and time is of the essence. None of the questions I asked so far about A showed splitting paths forever, I don't feel a bad vibe; there are things I need to let go, he needs time to get his stuff together and maybe someday we'll be able to connect on a different level.
December 17th, 2008, 11:38 AM
Then we will all have to wait and see if you and your "feelings" are right and they get married or something. Perhaps next time when you see something on the forum you would be polite enough to say where you saw it or do some of us now lack names? Not worthy of your notice even?
Originally Posted by kitsune
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December 17th, 2008, 12:38 PM
Wow, Willowfox. You react pretty aggressive sometimes.
Waiting for confirmation, isn't that how you can verify your readings? By waiting for things to happen? And judging by Lucia's experience, 32 isn't a parting ways hexagram It doesn't have to be about marriage either. You know, people don't pick on your readings, but you pick on them. Why is that?
And i didn't mean to be impolite, i didn't even know it was impolite to say what i said.
"or do some of us now lack names?" it's clear that you feel personally offended by what i said
i don't remember where i read it, i read a lot of old posts, it could be on a reading about 32, duration. I won't take this any further.
"Not worthy of your notice even? " ... no comment
Sorry heymau, for all this
December 17th, 2008, 12:41 PM
"I don't think it's about marriage either, thank you. Nor any other connection anymore.
Drop what I'm doing, yes; dropped everything, he's no longer part of my life as far as I'm concerned.
I won't ask this question again; the answer I got back regarding the present situation was clear and my future does not include him".
I just noticed that you already answered this question about hex 32 a week ago and the answer was very clear to you at least, now you have someone seemingly telling you that your answer and you were wrong and they are suggesting what, that you will get back together again? That hex 32 doesn't mean that things will stay as they are, it no longer means duration, you know like being separated.