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superman

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Whoever designed this Casino Royale James Bond Swatch watch didn't just randomly place those symbols on the dial. The designed was, how shall we say... well thought out:

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Want to know about the secrets of love and romantic attraction -- how to get a woman to follow you?
Take a look at where the hearts where placed (1 and 7 => ie. look at Hexagram 17/Following).

Want to know how to become a money magnet?
Take a look at where the diamonds where placed (5 and 11 => 5 x 11 = look at Hexagram 55/Abundance).

And since I have more experience with 55 than 17, I will provide an example:

Say you want to become a successful stock trader. The only requisite to success in this endeavor is to obey the law of 55/Abundance. Ex:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=205222&perpage=6&pagenumber=17 said:
I've only run across one trading educator who was willing to be honest about what it really takes. Many years ago, I attended 'Futures South' in Orlando. Joe DiNapoli (a fib based trader) was brutally honest about the business of being a small spec trader. Joe said success more or less required a 5 / 50 commitment. 5 years time trading and learning; 50K capital to tie up (not blow up).
 

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Take a look at where the hearts where placed (1 and 7 => ie. look at Hexagram 17/Following).

Take a look at where the diamonds where placed (5 and 11 => 5 x 11 = look at Hexagram 55/Abundance).

Things and persons often aren't what they seem, are they superman? There are secret designs everywhere. Yes, the watch is attractive. Life is a game of chance, and the central spade symbolizes the great terminus toward which we all step with each click of the clock.

Your arithmetic seems arbitrary. Why not 1 + 7 = 8, or 11 - 5 = 6?
 

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Your arithmetic seems arbitrary. Why not 1 + 7 = 8, or 11 - 5 = 6?

1. It's Mars/Aries (1) and Venus/Libra (7). Although Mars and Venus should "combine", they each must retain their own individuality.

2. Numerology never does subtraction.
 

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i don't understand this thread ...is it an advertisment for the watch ?
 

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i don't understand this thread ...is it an advertisment for the watch ?

I wish it were. This watch is circa 2008. They don't make them anymore. Limited numbers floating around on sell still...
 
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Cool watch. Did it come with the tux and Walther PPK .32 acp?
 

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i don't understand this thread ...is it an advertisment for the watch ?

It's about how divination signs can be found extemporaneously in ordinary objects, I think. Master Jou gave such examples in his I Ching. For example, using the Later Heaven arrangement, the hour hand could give the lower trigram; the minute hand, the upper trigram; and the second hand in 10-second units, the moving line. For the upper watch in the ad, we would have Ken over Qian with the fourth line moving, or 26.4.
 

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i don't understand this thread ...is it an advertisment for the watch ?

Actually, I am more confused by the fact that this is the same person started the thread of "I Ching = Evil"...
 

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Confused? What's there to be confused about? All I wrote was to warn against the use of the Iching as a divination tool, or any form of divination for that matter. Using the Iching to "decipher" the meaning of numbers may not necessarily be *divination*.
 

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Confused? What's there to be confused about? All I wrote was to warn against the use of the Iching as a divination tool, or any form of divination for that matter. Using the Iching to "decipher" the meaning of numbers may not necessarily be *divination*.

well what the heck is it then ? If you are giving meaning to numbers outside of the actual number then I'd say you were kind of in divination territory wouldn't you.
 
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Anything you want it to be. But if you're trying to get closer to 'God' or better understant yourself, may I suggest you pay more attention to your internal and external environments instead of relying on a divination book which may, or may not be dark magic?

Ever watched the movie, Bruce Almighty? God threw a bunch of signs at him that he was going the wrong way, yet he chose to go ahead and meet with the speeding truck headon.

In a similar way, if you pay enough attention, you will see that God/the universe is sending you messages (not inconspicuous ones, but very conspicuous signs like in Bruce Almighty) most, if not all of the time.

Divination is like using drugs to reach *Nirvana*, but a non-authentic one.

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What I'm really trying to say is that I see too many people trying to *control* the messages we receive from God by consulting the Iching. No no no. We do not *control* the time and place we find most convenient for the reception of messages from the divine. Let the messages come to you on its own accord and time.
 
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God may very well be sending us signs. If so though, he is sending you signs also. Do you see them? The I Ching has its own system of numerology, as does the Hebrew and the Greek in the old and new testaments. It is an arbitrary affair to be saying your way is right and others are wrong. You do not have adequate knowledge to be comparing the use of the I Ching to some form of forbidden divination.

You have made some good posts, and I hope you will continue. You have a lot of knowledge in some areas, but not in the area you are suggesting might be evil. You missed the point when I suggested you might be young. It is true that wisdom is not dependent upon age. It is also true that wisdom is justified of all her children. Mature people can see exactly what kind of person you are, perhaps better than you see yourself.

Gene
 

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God may very well be sending us signs. If so though, he is sending you signs also. Do you see them? The I Ching has its own system of numerology, as does the Hebrew and the Greek in the old and new testaments. It is an arbitrary affair to be saying your way is right and others are wrong. You do not have adequate knowledge to be comparing the use of the I Ching to some form of forbidden divination.

You have made some good posts, and I hope you will continue. You have a lot of knowledge in some areas, but not in the area you are suggesting might be evil. You missed the point when I suggested you might be young. It is true that wisdom is not dependent upon age. It is also true that wisdom is justified of all her children. Mature people can see exactly what kind of person you are, perhaps better than you see yourself.

Gene

Gene,

I know that your intentions are good, but see the addenum I tacked on in my post above.

And yes, without consulting the Iching, I get messages from God/the universe all the time, like my post in your other thread. The trick is to be aware and receptive of them without having to *control* the time and place at which they arrive. For, it is the ego part of us that always seeks to *control* things externally.
 
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My intentions ARE good, and I am very aware of all the things you talk about. There is nothing that you can come up with that I have not heard before or dealt with before. This is why I said you were young. That being said, good luck to you, I hope to close off further communication for the most part, with the exception of responding non personally to good posts that you ocassionally post.

Gene
 

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And yes, without consulting the Iching, I get messages from God/the universe all the time, like my post in your other thread.

Do you mean that the voice of conscience is the voice of God? Please give some examples of the messages you have received from God/the universe.
 

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