what will happen if i call him? 1.1.2.5>56

hopex · Feb 4, 2012

i had a disagree with my chap last time we spoke
on the phone - i even spoke over him to not hear
his complaint

i asked Yi what will happen if i call him after speaking
over him last time 1.1.2.6>56

what will happen if i dont call him (and wait for him to call me)?
57.2.3.5.6>2

:bows:

Lavalamp · Feb 4, 2012

Ask the Yi what the _right_ thing to do is and do that. Because if you do the right thing and he reacts badly it's on him, but if you act incorrectly because you wish a certain outcome you will eventually both go down.

chingching · Feb 4, 2012

hopex said:
i had a disagree with my chap last time we spoke
on the phone - i even spoke over him to not hear
his complaint

i asked Yi what will happen if i call him after speaking
over him last time 1.1.2.6>56

what will happen if i dont call him (and wait for him to call me)?
57.2.3.5.6>2

:bows:

these are quite clear, oh btw it is 1.1.2.5 > 56 , you wrote it correctly in the title but then put 6 instead of 5 in the main text, thankfully its line 5 and not line 6!

56, mind your manners, 1 all will go very well if you line 1)wait for the best time to act, it may not be right away but the intention is correct, time may not be ripe etc. line 2) aim for the best in the conversation line 5) when the right tone is set you will both have a good conversation. 56's image, if there is any punishing to be doled out it will be done quickly and then moved away from, move on in other words don't dwell on whatever it was that was wrongly said etc.

That is a very quick rendering of the reading, I recommend you have a look at some texts and reads the lines and interpretations.

as for the other reading in short:
doing nothing (2) will cause you to repeatedly ask questions (57)until you've ask so many(57 line 6) that you over analyse and loose your reason to ask the questions in the first place and your power to affect a change in your relationship.

All the best! Its often not as bad in reality as you first think it is!

hopex · Feb 4, 2012

Thank you Lavalamp and Chingching

2 very helpful responses
I will remember to use that question format Lavalamp
Chingching.......

sorry Ching ching I submitted the post before saying
what i wanted to say but the next comments on your
help - hugs

hopex · Feb 4, 2012

For example I have always seen 56 as getting on a train plane in a car
and physically moving. I did not think to interpret it as moving away
emotionally or moving away from conflict. I have a too literal perception
of each hexagram.

Doing nothing and asking questions til it is mush is a fantastically helpful
insight. 2.3.4.5.6>57 - the resultant combination of line 6 and 57.......

how awesome - I am unable to make such interpretations about emotional
subjects. I am grateful for the learning.

hopex · Feb 4, 2012

I asked the Yi what is the right thing to do about X(mans name)
but got response

42.6>3

the 6th line in any hexagram seems ominous but it is the point
of change into the second hexagram I suppose?

line 6 clearly says there is no gain and 3 implies new beginning
I wonder if this means I need to let him go and look again for
the love I want to have and give? and this will be a struggle
initially

I asked about the man, not the relationship....wonder if there is
a difference

Lavalamp · Feb 4, 2012

"what is the right thing to do about X?"

42.6
This line is only thinking about himself, and bringing increase to and serving no one. Therefore someone wants to strike him.
Rest before you do anything, think before you speak, and don't ask for anything until the relationship is solid. Seek security that way.

>3
You untangle a knot by separating and uniting. Don't act prematurely. Get help. After a revolution, when everything has been turned upside down, it takes time and able helpers to bring order out of chaos.

hopex · Feb 4, 2012

lavalamp - again how do you see that!?

i do hate to admit to myself that i think he
might be selfish and maybe Yi like a kind friend
is pointing out that he is - or can be

very helpful - thanks. will look more closely at
3 now - it makes sense

he is outwardly a very masculine male and his
energy very masculine - but he has been pursued
by women and this has made his energy receptive
and female (plus from family of 10 - 7 of which
women!

dragona · Feb 4, 2012

Hi hopex, I think the first cast speaks of your upset state of mind and saying you need not act under such influence.

42.6Confucius says about this line:
The superior man sets his person at rest before he moves; he composes his mind before he speaks; he makes his relations firm before he asks for something. By attending to these three matters, the superior man gains complete security. But if a man is brusque in his movements, others will not cooperate. If he is agitated in his word, they awaken no echo in others. If he asks for something without having fist established relations, it will not be given to him. If no one is with him, those who would harm him draw near. Wilhelm
Somethings unfolding maybe, a new setup between you and it is advisable to watch out and be cautious. After all, you did get upset over something, right? Try go calm and steady and make him do his bit also.

Lavalamp · Feb 4, 2012

Yes the lines are from the Wilhelm translation, and the advice from Confucius - "Kongfu"...

hopex · Feb 4, 2012

Magnificent Dragona! thanks that sure is good counsel to
aspire to. Talking of agitated - I am hoping you are serene
and purring and life is good for you. Namaste!:bows:

Lavalamp - you dark horse! - not such a newbie hey

Lavalamp · Feb 4, 2012

I had a hard time with this reading. It seemed judgmental to me, but it's all I could see in the lines. I have an easier time passing on the Yi's advice.

hopex · Feb 5, 2012

I called him at his work this am but he put the phone down
I asked Yi please tell me what happened there - and I received 8

I took this to mean he was with his staff??

But as Ching ching said punishments doled out quickly and moved
away from ....

chingching · Feb 5, 2012

but also, there was a right time to ring, too late meets with pitfall.

I find the image plays out a lot more strongly in uc readings.

hopex · Feb 5, 2012

thank you Chingching - so I left it too late?
what is a uc reading please explain

chingching · Feb 5, 2012

But as Ching ching said punishments doled out quickly and moved
away from ....
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I meant more, deal with this issue quickly, don't sit on it. Giving it too much importance makes it worse, a good house guest when entering a smelly bathroom does not complain about it to the host she just makes her trip to the loo as quick as possible. 56, when done well, is an exemplary house guest.

chingching · Feb 5, 2012

hopex said:
thank you Chingching - so I left it too late?
what is a uc reading please explain

oh sorry, lazy posting, uc=unchanging.

Its more that the phone call isn't the problem, and that comes into 8 uc as well because its asking you to look at the source, the reason of why you came to ask the oracle in the first place.

(Some people use ((and translate)) 8 uc as a spring board for another question to further their understand, I personally don't practice this because I just get too lost, it brings in too many variables for me and I oscillate wildly which eventually dissipates any meaning that could have been. But for some people asking another question really works for them with 8 unchanging.)

compare these, hilary vs. wilhelm

At the origin of oracle consultation.

Inquire of the oracle once again

hilary's is more, get back to the reason you asked in the first place

wilhelm's is more, this is not clear yet ask another question.

but the image is really worth looking at too.

in brief hilary says abotu this line, let the relationship flow naturally

which gets me back to my impression of this event for you is that you've placed too much weight on it.

We are coming up to a full moon so emotions are running high and its a leo full moon, and lovers may find themselves in a dramatic quarrel, but look even if that eventuated just think of the make-up sex

but seriously I think there is good energy here, 8 is nothing to worry about, and as you said it could just be simply that he was with work mates (and 8 represents working with others too.)

the thing to do is to move with the flow, and not to try and control the flow.

hopex · Feb 5, 2012

Thanks Chingching - he is an aquarius sun and Leo moon - so figures

our composite chart says we are north node Leo -

Back to source - I dont like to cast again on 8 because of the variables
as you so rightly say - namaste:bows:

dragona · Feb 5, 2012

May I just say (as an Aquarius) that we don`t run from conversation but if this is a person who wants to feel strong and in charge, his authority cannot be compromised (yawn)
I also waited for too long for an appology and bitternes became overwhelming, don`t think it will work out at all.
So from this point of a wiew, the gentleman would not mind a message asking when is it a good time to call (upon) him and appologize (if that is what you want). My Leo would melt, if I had one anywhere in my chart to speak of.
Smile, D.

white owl · Feb 5, 2012

Hi Hope...

42.6 to 3
What u have to offer
I have received this hex a few times myself with someone who I was interested in.
This stage where you are at with this person.."what would happen if I called him?" stage.
It would be felt as 1.1.2.6 overstepping boundaries or being too bold. That would be from him & that mood is debatable. I think the Yi is being completely honest with you

I think there is no fault, emotions put aside..You care & you like him. You are trying to be nice and reach out for some communication because you want to make sure your meeting goes well. But however, he feels 42.6 like he will shoot down the messenger (not saying he would show this outwardly or inwardly, prob both) only you would know. 42.6 can be a damned if you do, damned if you don't situations.
You are just trying to act on behalf of the king , which is your life source , which is a thing called "love"..sometimes we have to get uncomfortable to reach it at times, to receive our increase .
A constant feeling of being the whipping boy is another good description of 42.6..I think.
xo
WO

dragona · Feb 5, 2012

this was very nice WO

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