40 _> 60 49_> 60 Endings in 60.

hollis · Nov 28, 2006

I wonder, that 60 can be a 'lens' hexagram, just as 62 can be a lens hexagram?

Three hexagrams for me lately resulted with 60. As I do not do very many consultations now, it seemed interesting. I had the feeling that the 60 had something to do with tempering each.

Here are two , and I forget, for now, the third:

"What do I need to know about the anger?":

40 lines 1,4 & 5 to 60.

In this example, I felt the 60 was softening a moral judgement about the anger.

"Going ahead with X?":

49 lines 2, 3, & 4 to 60.

In this case, I felt the 60 was telling me there is a small envelope of time to go forward with plan X, after I had decided it was necessary (line 3). In other words, decide, and do it. Now or never.

I welcome any addtional comments, perhaps I am not understanding 60 correctly.

Thank you, in advance, to the Forum.

willowfox · Nov 29, 2006

"What do I need to know about the anger?":

40 lines 1,4 & 5 to 60.

In this example, I felt the 60 was softening a moral judgement about the anger.

Hex 60 here suggests by all means limit you anger within reason, but try try to crush it it into non existence, that would prove to be destructive for you, you would eventually blow under the pressure. It suggests that you go dig a hole or something to expend that fury.

"Going ahead with X?":

49 lines 2, 3, & 4 to 60."

Hex 60 here probably means to place some kind of limitation on your plan and not to exceed it, whatever happens, don't throw good money after bad. So, it is not a matter of stopping but a matter of proceeding carefully, with caution and within bounds. Hex 49.3 says when change is necessary do it but never be too hasty and never be too slow, be cautious, yes but don't ponder until the opportunity disappears.

hollis · Nov 29, 2006

willowfox said:
Hex 60 here suggests by all means limit you anger within reason, but try try to crush it it into non existence, that would prove to be destructive for you, you would eventually blow under the pressure.

Oh. That's a good take, :mischief:

Didn't occur to me that 60 says to crush it out of existance will cause me to blow,

. The advice of line 5 in 40, in the Wilhelm sighs, saying 'if only you could be free of it'.

hollis · Nov 29, 2006

reply to my reply

line 5 "Times of deliverance demand inner resolve. Inferior people cannot be driven off by prohibitions or any external means. If one desires to be rid of them, he must first break completely with them in his own mind; they will see for themselves that he is in earnest and will withdraw."

deliverance demands inner resolve. Inferior emotions cannot be driven off by prohibitions....If one desires to be free of them, must break free of them in his own mind.......the emotions will see for themselves that he is in earnest and will withdraw.

line 4 "Deliver yourself from your great toe.

Then the companion comes,
And him you can trust.

In times of standstill it will happen that inferior people attach themselves to a superior man, and through force of daily habit they may grow very close to him and become indispensable, just as the big toe is indispensable to the foot because it makes walking easier. But when the time of deliverance draws near, with its call to deeds, a man must free himself from such chance acquaintances with whim he has no inner connection. For otherwise the friends who share his views, on whom he could really rely and together with whom he could accomplish something, mistrust him and stay away."

How, why, did Wilhelm get to that? Inferior people, with the big toe?

willowfox · Nov 29, 2006

"but try try to crush it it into non existence, that would prove to be destructive for you, you would eventually blow under the pressure."

Sorry my typing is awful at times, it is me who is about to blow.

The line should be, 'but try not to crush it into non existance, that would prove to be destructive for you, you would eventually blow under the pressure.'

The above line is from the new edition of the Wilhelm/Fox book I Ching for Stress and other ailments (2007)

hollis · Nov 29, 2006

Dont blow!

Don't blow Willowfox, otherwise it's me to myself here talking to the wall!

hollis · Nov 29, 2006

willowfox said:
the Wilhelm/Fox book I Ching for Stress and other ailments (2007)

Fox, is that written on the spot?

willowfox · Nov 29, 2006

Yes Fox was written on the spot but the book took years to complete.

lightofreason · Nov 29, 2006

hollis said:
...I welcome any addtional comments, perhaps I am not understanding 60 correctly.

Thank you, in advance, to the Forum.

The IC+ perspective on 60, including its spectrum:

http://members.iimetro.com.au/~lofting/myweb/lofting/x010011.html

The spectrum is where we can use the whole of the IC to describe itself (but in general since the hexagrams are universals - local context adds colour (and so confusion at times ;-))

For an addtional page of material, click on the hexagram image in the above link.

I noticed your reference to anger etc so you may like to try the Emotional I Ching material as well - a different way to use the IC ;-)

see the preamble in :
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~lofting/myweb/EmotionalIC.html

the link in the preamble takes you to this page - the nitty gritty :

http://members.iimetro.com.au/~lofting/myweb/lofting/icplusEProact.html

Chris.

PS - to understand spectrums (and so XOR) here are some links:

http://members.iimetro.com.au/~lofting/myweb/introXOR.html
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~lofting/myweb/icspectrums.html (incomplete table)
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~lofting/myweb/linemean.html (older page, intro)

This all comes from consideration of the method of analysis of our brains in processing meaning - we use self-referencing and so all is linked together - see http://members.iimetro.com.au/~lofting/myweb/properties.html

hollis · Nov 29, 2006

ah!

willowfox said:
Yes Fox was written on the spot but the book took years to complete.

wu wei!!!

wei to go!

hollis · Nov 29, 2006

lightofreason said:
This all comes from consideration of the method of analysis of our brains in processing meaning - we use self-referencing and so all is linked together - see http://members.iimetro.com.au/~lofting/myweb/properties.html

Self referencing! Hey! That's the wholey problem in the first place!

Urg! Who do you have to lay to get out of here!

Sorry, that joke is in my mind from seeing the movie "Love Actually" over the holiday.
Hugh Grant says it and then his secretary comes in with the tea.

...life can be translucent

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