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libelula

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Hi, I hope you could tell me what these readings mean. :confused:

Are we meant to be together? Hex. 2, 1-4 changing to 51.
What he expects from me? Hex. 55, 1-2 changing to 32
What he feels about me? Hex. 64 2-5 changing to 12
what I feel for him? Hex. 52, 6 changing to 15
what life has in store for us? 52, 1-4 changing to 30.

I am working on calm my heart in the meantime... :) We haven't seen each other for a week now, and even I feel deep inside that I should not worry, sometimes I do, like today. :)

Please, help. :bag:
 

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Are we meant to be together? Hex. 2, 1-4 changing to 51.

Unfortunately, he is not going to turn out to be the "one" or your "soul mate". After a period of time expect it to end disagreeably. Okay, there maybe fun, passion and excitement now but the flame flares up quickly and then dies.

I see no reason to go further with this reading.
 
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diamanda

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Hi libelula,

Strange readings you got there. It doesn't seem to be a clear-cut situation,
and it doesn't sound as if the outcome is 'decided' yet. It doesn't seem to
be a smooth match 'made in heaven' though, and it might well end at some
point in the not-so-far future, depending on the steps taken.

Are we meant to be together? Hex. 2, 1-4 changing to 51
2:1 - you can already see the signs that something is just not right.
2:4 - one of the two of you has a secret and/or is a very 'closed' person.
51 - whatever is closed/hidden will come out and cause a shock.

What he expects from me? Hex. 55, 1-2 changing to 32
55:1 - he expects this to be a short-term affair.
55:2 - his loyalties (or yours..?) lie elsewhere. Not with another
partner though. With some other people (?). IF there is truth and
sincerity (ie if the truth comes out) there will be good fortune.
32 - IF there is truth, then 32 might mean duration between you
two. If not, then the person whose loyalties lie elsewhere will
continue to do so.

What he feels about me? Hex. 64 2-5 changing to 12
64:2 - he's waiting for something. He's holding back for now.
64:5 - he just got out of a bad situation and struggles to be positive?
12 - he feels you two are not on the same wavelength.

what I feel for him? Hex. 52, 6 changing to 15

You feel it's fate that you two should be together. You are assuming
a fatalistic approach to the whole thing (which is obvious also from
your first, and last questions).

what life has in store for us? 52, 1-4 changing to 30
If you don't take any initiatives with him, and if you are very
careful with your words, then you'll remain together. I'm wondering
if 52:4 is a caution on the way you phrased this question, as if we
are all powerless pawns in the hands of 'life'. 30 shows that if you
change the way you think about this then you two may well remain
together.

There are quite a few IFs in your reading. If the truth comes out,
if you keep calm during a shock, if one of you gets their loyalties
right, if he gets over his problems, if you're careful of your words,
etc. So, there is hope, but with lots of careful steps along the
difficult way that lies ahead.
 

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I disagree with Diamanda over the 52 answers. I don't think theres much connecting going on with 52. I tend to associate it with indifference, you know not much caring either way whether someone is around or not. If not indifference exactly certainly not being strongly affected by the relationship in anyway, holding to your center. Theres 2 mountains here, they don't move. Well I'm tending to disagree, I can't say I'm clear how the 52 in this question may play out. I guess Diamanda you see the 52, the non movement, as indicating the relationship standing still as in not falling apart ? You may be right of course. Wondering if your experience bears it out ? When a relationship is set to stay its course I tend to think its 32 that will come up rather than 52. Am never quite sure of 52 somehow when it comes up in the realm of social behaviour..it could be being totally kind of at ease with someone but i associate more withthe person not bothering much in that relationship...not in a bad way just cos they're quite detached from it. I hadn't seen 52.6 as assuming a 'fatalistic' attitude before...interesting.
 
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Are we meant to be together?
2.1.4 > 51.
Not twenty four hours a day seven days a week. You have to have some down time to feel the spark when you meet again. Absence makes the heart grow fonder!

What he expects?
55.1.2 > 32
He thinks everything is as it should be. He would be surprised to realize you doubt. He expects the friendship to continue.

How he feels?
64.2.5 - 12
He is confident with the progress that has been made so far, feels things ended on a happy note the last time you talked but right now he doesn't have anything new to say. Better to come back when you are interested than stay when you're bored.

What I feel?
52.6 > 15
You're having to control you desire to fence him in and trust your inner knowingness that all is well.

What life has in store?
52.1.4 > 30
Together or apart you are learning to be a complete, independent people.

I think this whole series of responses are a comment on where you are right now, rather than a far reaching projection into the future. I think you are being encouraged to be calm, confident and let this friendship find it's way.

Best wishes!
Let us know how it evolves!
 
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Trojan i think we're saying the same thing in different words about 52:6.
You wrote, "i associate more with the person not bothering much in that
relationship...not in a bad way just cos they're quite detached from it"
.
I meant 'fatalistic' in a very similar manner. The attitude described (the
way i see it at least) is that the person is detached, has 'perfect stillness',
does not do anything, does not get involved. The two 'slopes' so to speak
are stillness, calmness, not moving, not doing, and modesty, and the
person stands at the pinnacle, doing nothing, as if the situation does
not require any effort, any energy, any rolling up of sleeves. This calmness
is serene, and trusting. No other changing lines, which in this question i
think shows a general attitude towards relationships. The question was
'how do i feel towards him' - a question i've always found strange. I do
agree with you, it does show detachment - but in the sense, "i don't
feel i need to do anything, i'll just see where life takes this, and me
with it".

This attitude may be great in some circumstances and situations, but
if this attitude is correct in a particular relationship, that's up to anyone's
opinions. I've had this in the past a couple of times, specifically just
before a very important pleasant event coming up, and i took it to mean
"in this case you need do nothing but trust in life". However, my questions
were 'action' questions (ie 'what do i need to do'), and not feelings questions
like here. Only saying all this to explain what i meant by 'fatalistic'.
 

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Thank you so much for taking the time to give these readings. I really appreciate it. I think all of you have given me many tips to think about and to understand what's going on with me as well.

Just one comment about 52 - I think you all said things that apply to my feelings. I've been pondering about your comments in this and could recognize them in myself. I could summing up as "I am fatalistically detached to a good outcome of this situation because I am having to control my desire to fence him". This is really an "aha" moment for me. For me, this association is an opportunity I have in my life to learn how to love without wanting to possess the person, or expecting something in return. This has to come from love itself -that makes us accept things as they are- rather than pessimism... Oh, wow! Thank you, I just realize this at this right moment - it's very important to me!

I will let you know how things develop here, I promise! Thanks again.
 

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Just one more question: I got a book from Stephen Karcher (Symbols of love). If I compare it with Wilhelm, it's sounds really different in many cases. Are you familiar with Karcher's book?
 

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Trojan i think we're saying the same thing in different words about 52:6.
You wrote, "i associate more with the person not bothering much in that
relationship...not in a bad way just cos they're quite detached from it"
.
I meant 'fatalistic' in a very similar manner. The attitude described (the
way i see it at least) is that the person is detached, has 'perfect stillness',
does not do anything, does not get involved. The two 'slopes' so to speak
are stillness, calmness, not moving, not doing, and modesty, and the
person stands at the pinnacle, doing nothing, as if the situation does
not require any effort, any energy, any rolling up of sleeves. This calmness
is serene, and trusting. No other changing lines, which in this question i
think shows a general attitude towards relationships. The question was
'how do i feel towards him' - a question i've always found strange. I do
agree with you, it does show detachment - but in the sense, "i don't
feel i need to do anything, i'll just see where life takes this, and me
with it".

This attitude may be great in some circumstances and situations, but
if this attitude is correct in a particular relationship, that's up to anyone's
opinions. I've had this in the past a couple of times, specifically just
before a very important pleasant event coming up, and i took it to mean
"in this case you need do nothing but trust in life". However, my questions
were 'action' questions (ie 'what do i need to do'), and not feelings questions
like here. Only saying all this to explain what i meant by 'fatalistic'.

I see thanks for explaining. :)
 

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