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This morning someone asked to predict all the Euro Soccer games and start out with Poland and Greece. Based on the 4 month 19 day at the Snake hour we got Hexagram 61 changing to Hexagram 10.

My prediction is Poland win Greece lose.

I have to post as quickly as I can and explain in second post before they score.

Water on earth

PS. Man I was still late about 10 second. Right before I click submit at 11:19 Houston Poland already scored.

Well, the game is just begin nobody know yet the outcome.
 
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I did not plan to play this game but since it is good to do practical prediction right here on Clarity I thought it is necessary to join the game right at the first game begin. This is good time for trial and error for more experience.

☴ > ☶ > ☰
☱ > ☳ > ☱ line 4 is changing

Hexagram 61 is named 中孚 (zhōng fú), "Center Returning","inner truth", "central return", hosting team (Central is like capital where the king stay, or the owner of the house or a host of the game)...

Hexagram 27 is named 頤 (yí), "Swallowing", and “the corners of the mouth (providing nourishment) “,” jaws, comfort/security, play defensively...

Hexagram 10 is named 履 (lǚ), "Treading", "continuing", law enforcement, moving forward, traveling, guest team,... [up to this point we can see that law is strongly imposed on both team by the refugee]

Now is summer ☴ (Xun) Wood is Greece (Yung) in burning in an exhausting stage, very weak, no strength. It is good that the team costume is blue, which has a little help as water. Poland is ☱ (Dui) Metal also weak in summer but Metal has support from ☶ Mountain (Earth) ☰ (Metal) much more stronger compare to Greece the wood which in nature Metal chops Wood.

How many points they can get total in this game?

Line 4 is changing, there would be no more than 4 points. (As this sentence is written, Greece score 1 to 1). However, the prediction that Poland will win; therefore probably the score would be 2-1 or 3-1. If for any reason they have any even score then overtime will occur and Poland should win as predicted.

According to reality we see that Main Hex is Poland, Poland lead 1-0 in the beginning of the first half and the Changing Hex is Greece, Greece score 1-1 in the beginning of the second half.

Let's see who will be the winner.

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Well, I need to learn more about the rules of soccer, since I never care much about it. I did not know that at the qualifying round they do not have overtime lol. Learning all the time!

The hard part of prediction for world cup, Olympic,... is that we do not have an actual host and guest since most of them come from another country, not like US football, basketball, baseball... From the past I had used a different question for the each team at a different time or using the 6 lines method to do the prediction but that is not my intention here. I want to use 1 Hexs combination for both teams, that's why it is hard. However, if we keep on searching, we will find it soon or later.

For instance from the last World Cup, I accepted a challenge of a friend by using $100 USD to bet on the final 10 matches and in believing that I would win a $1000 dollar, just for the fun of it. Actually there were 6 wins, 2 draws, and 2 losses. I had won over $400 USD because after the first 4 wins I double to $200 sometimes. However, it was very stressful to me since involving too much concentration!

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As for the Poland and Greece according to the check and balance of the 5 Elements, the only reason that they can get a draw was that Poland wore white shirt (Metal) Red short, while the Greece wore all Blue, had the support from the (White shirt) Metal.

Now it is time for Russia and Czech we see that Russia is wearing all Red, very powerful in summer, while Czech wearing all White (Metal). Metal of Czech will be melted by fierce Fire of Russia. (I did not do the reading for these two teams)

The team's uniform play a very important role in this kind of prediction, we cannot leave it out!

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Tomorrow June 09 Netherlands vs. Denmark, which team will lose? The question was asking at 20:30 PM of June 08th.

☴ > ☶ > ☰
☷ > ☷ > ☷ line 4 is changing

Hexagram 20 is named 觀 (guān), "Viewing", "contemplation (view)", spectator, guest,…

Hexagram 23 is named 剝 (bō), "Stripping", "splitting apart", "flaying", losing, dying,…

Hexagram 12 is named 否 (pǐ), "Obstruction", un-harmonizing, bad time, being defeated,…

Question: Which team will lose?

According to the UEFA Euro 2012 Netherland is designated as the host and Denmark as the guest. Let’s use that for our host and guest as Ti and Yung for our prediction and we will base on 3 reasons for our prediction as following:

1. Using line changing: 1-3 is Inner as Ti (Self); 3-6 is Outer (Guest)
2. Using the meaning to see the Hexs are talking about the winning and losing of which team, or which team it is corresponding to
3. Using the combination of the 5 Elements in combination with the team’s uniform
(If this should be the way for my Technique then we should be right at least 70% after 10 predictions).

- Changing line 4 is standing for GUEST TEAM – Denmark
- One meaning of the Hexs saying that: The Guest Team will lose
- Ti (Self) Kun ☷ is Earth very strong in summer, and their uniform supposed to be orange or earthlike. On the other hand, the Outer changing Trigram Qian ☰ is Denmark – their uniform supposed to be White and Red (Metal) is very weak in the summer but it does have support from Earth of Trigram Kun and the Earth uniform from Netherland team in the second half.

What is the score?

The total score should be about 5 (☴) > 3:2, or Denmark should lose by 1 point or should make 1 goal.

Let’s wait and see what will be the actual outcome for tomorrow.

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Today June 09 at 8:28 AM, Germany vs. Portugal which team will win?

☵ > ☲ > ☷
☲ > ☵ > ☲ line 5 is changing

Hexagram 63 is named 既濟 (jì jì), "Already Fording", "after completion", "already completed" or "already done", small gain, BIAS, already set, (already assigned as the host team),…

Hexagram 64 is named 未濟 (wèi jì), "Not Yet Fording", "before completion", "not yet completed", cannot complete the mission…

Hexagram 36 is named 明夷 (míng yí), “Darkening of the Light”, "brilliance injured", "and intelligence hidden", getting hurt, injured, get punished, losing the game,…

According to the UEFA Euro 2012 Germany is designated as the host and Portugal as the guest.

- Changing line 5 is standing for guest team Portugal
- One meaning of the Hexs saying that: Portugal will lose
- Ti (Host) ☲ fire is powerful in summer but Germany uninform supposed to be white shirt (Metal) and black short (Water) that would lower the players’ ability or being obstructed.
Outer Trigram ☵ Kan (Water) changing to ☷ Kun (Earth) , Water would be dried up in the heat of summer; however, Portugal uniform supposed to be all white (Metal) and the game will be playing at the hour of the Chicken (Metal time) in Poland toward the hour of the Dog, and that is the time for the burning flame coming to its weakening cycle, and Fire would yield to Earth. Those factors are very helpful to Portugal and it will be a good gain for Portugal in the second half.

What is the score?

Trigram Kan ☵ (6) changing to ☷ (8), since there are some obstructions for both team we should divide that by 2 and come up with 3-4 goals.

I would say the score will be 2:1, and there 1 goal is not counted for some reason, such as offside… maybe.

Let's wait and see what will be the actual outcome.

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DearWateronearth;
Why don't you just sit and enjoy the games instead of making "predictions"? It really would help your efforts if you"consult"more experienced "diviners" like the BBC'S? If you ever played or watched football(not soccer...)you would know that the magic of the game is precisely not knowing who will win. For ages analysts and fans had been "predicting" winners only to be proven wrong in the field.This game's magic is precisely its unpredictable nature. Here is a link for you to analyse before making more predictions:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/european-championship/2012/
Kindly;
Sergio
P.S.:Don't you think the I Ching should be used for more important issues? But if you have nothing better to do and are out to prove a point by any means necessary then knock yourself out..it is a democracy afterall and you can do as you please. But really, enjoy the games. It's a lot more fun.
 

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After two games of Netherlands vs. Denmark and German vs. Portugal I feel that Ti (Host) Yung (Guest) of the team list before the other team by UEFA Euro 2012 is somehow has no base meaning as its nature except higher ranking or better score; however, using Poland and Ukraine as the Host teams is perfectly ok because actually they are. Also, using the supposed uniform of a team is not correct when Portugal wore uniform RED/ORANGE instead, so THE NATURE of the Host/Guest rule does not apply here.

I strongly believe that to stay the course of I Ching – NATURE, we must use two ways as the following for this kind of reading (using 1 question for both teams):

1. Ask a specific question for that particular team, and use that team as the Ti (Host), the other for Yung (Guest)

2. Using whatever team that first comes to mind or whatever team that we write down first as the top Hex, or Outer Hex and using changing line 4,5,6 for that and changing line 1,2,3 for the other team. The reason for this is because we only have two teams

Let’s try using this FORMULA to see how accurate it is throughout the Euro 2012.

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Alas, Water 0n Earth, my opinion is that no formula you come up with is going to give you results better than chance. Nevertheless, I welcome your efforts. From time to time persons at Clarity attempt alternate methods. In my opinion none has ever paid out, but hope springs eternal. I once had an elderly and distant relative who told me she had gambled on horses. "How much did you lose?" I asked. "I didn't lose anything," she said. "I made money." "How did you do it?" I asked, and she told me she judged the horses by objective features -- whether or not the horse was frisky when led to the starting gate, how it held its head, and its general physique. I share my now-deceased relative's belief in such personally observed objective features and believe that if one has the wit to use them, the game can be both exciting and financially rewarding.
 

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Dear Wateronearth;
Sergio
P.S.:Don't you think the I Ching should be used for more important issues? But if you have nothing better to do and are out to prove a point by any means necessary then knock yourself out..it is a democracy afterall and you can do as you please. But really, enjoy the games. It's a lot more fun.

Dear Sergio,

Thanks for your kind advice/suggestion!

However, I feel like if I cannot use I Ching to know every little thing in life then I still need to learn I Ching. Also, if no prediction I would not have any reason to watch soccer! :rofl: :bows:

By the way, to you, what is the "more important issues" that we should use I Ching for? :bows:

Thank you kindly.

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Alas, Water 0n Earth, my opinion is that no formula you come up with is going to give you results better than chance. Nevertheless, I welcome your efforts. From time to time persons at Clarity attempt alternate methods. In my opinion none has ever paid out, but hope springs eternal. I once had an elderly and distant relative who told me she had gambled on horses. "How much did you lose?" I asked. "I didn't lose anything," she said. "I made money." "How did you do it?" I asked, and she told me she judged the horses by objective features -- whether or not the horse was frisky when led to the starting gate, how it held its head, and its general physique. I share my now-deceased relative's belief in such personally observed objective features and believe that if one has the wit to use them, the game can be both exciting and financially rewarding.

Hi Tom,

Thanks for sharing.

Earlier I said that I had accepted challenges before in gambling and betting for money. Luckily enough I have not lose yet, but that only happened when I was challenged by friends and I would use different methods as a combination to come up with the answer for the betting.

However, my intention is not to use I Ching to gamble or to make money but to use it in exploring and stretching our predictions on new things and new ways that have not yet been proven.

Best regards

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I think for now it is best to stay focus on the winning and losing issue first before going into details. We can do that later when the Formula is being proven to be a correct one.

Spain, the World Cup winner, will beat Italy tomorrow? (6/9/11:33 PM)
Spain
Italy

☵ > ☶ > ☴
☱ > ☳ > ☱ Line 6 is changing

No, with many infiltrations but Spain will not win.

They may not lose and should stay in the middle for a tie, since Italy stands tall.

(In any case if they should lose or win it may be 2:3/3:2)

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After the first 3 games using the wrong Formula, I feel like I was guessing the Hexagrams rather than predicting with confident. Now, with the concrete question Formula I can do the prediction with the SEE, HEAR AND FEEL in a very calm and comfortable state of mind.

I think this FORMULA is correct, but we need sometimes to prove the test and some enhancements to stretching the prediction with deeper analysis and in some hard cases. For example: Xun ( ☴) is infiltration and in soccer game there is a goal on both sides, so any Hexs with ☴ there should be chances to score, or ☲ and ☰,… Of course, it will take time to develop to the full extend. It can be done, and will be done!

Even the Formula is correct it does not mean that we can get 100% correct answer. It needs time for contemplation to come to such results, not in just days and weeks. Just like we know I Ching can predict about anything but can we do it all?!

I spent every single moment to dissect the Hexs with the actual result from the Spain and Italy game, and find out that it is too late to do another reading for the second game of today.

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Will France beat England due to the loss and suspension of their manager and key players? (June 10, 2012, 9:23 PM)

☶ > ☷ > ☷
☱ > ☳ > ☱ Line 6 is changing

Yes. Due to the England decrease, lost, and suspension of the manager and key players (Hexagram 41) is a good approach for France to get ahead (Hexagram 19). However, that could also be a trap (Hexagram 24), France should be alert at all time.

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Can Ukraine beat Sweden today? June 11, 2012 (10:32)

☷ > ☷ > ☷
☵ > ☳ > ☷

This game Ukraine is the Host, so Ti Earth ☷ is Ukraine very stable in the summer, and Sweden is Water ☵ evaporating in the summer and being suppressed by thick and hard Earth of 4 trigrams ☷.

This game Ukraine should be in control, from beginning till the end according to the Hexs. However, the most important time of this match is at the last 10 minutes, according to the SEE that will turn out whoever with yellow uniform will lose and the one with black/blue uniform will win the game. (At this moment I do not know who wear what).

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Will France beat England due to the loss and suspension of their manager and key players? (June 10, 2012, 9:23 PM)

☶ > ☷ > ☷
☱ > ☳ > ☱ Line 6 is changing

Yes. Due to the England decrease, lost, and suspension of the manager and key players (Hexagram 41) is a good approach for France to get ahead (Hexagram 19). However, that could also be a trap (Hexagram 24), France should be alert at all time.

Water 0n Earth

FRANCE and England game is the only game I have enjoyed since the open because of their respects to the game itself and the other players as well. They played with the beauty of the game!

As for I Ching I have learned quite a lot when compare theory to reality.

I CHING:
Hexagram 41 is named 損 (sǔn), "Diminishing", "decrease", losing,…
Hexagram 24 is named 復 (fù), "Returning", "return (the turning point)", reborn, comeback,…
Hexagram 19 is named 臨 (lín), "Nearing", "approach", "the forest", beginning, manager, the head, number 1/next to number1, protection,…

REALITY:

Hex 41: losing by a header goal from number 15 of England at 30 minutes after start. (This also can be explained that line 6 is the head combine with 41 is losing… beside Hexagram 19: the head)

Hexagram 24: the returning point/comeback 9 minutes later to 1/1

Hexagram 19: The manager, forest, protection, the managers just want them to play defensively in the second half. We can also see that from ☶ is stopping, defensing and ☷ is yielding, softly, receptive… On the second half both team held back, especially England always surrounded by 10 players around the goal like a forest of men, no space for the France to make goal.

Basically if the method is wrong, we will not be able to relate the I Ching and the Reality, now they both corresponding. On this one it is proving that the SYSTEM is right, my prediction is wrong. What we need now is to work on fine tune our prediction. That is all!

I think to have a better answer we should stick to the question with the meaning of the Hexagram and especially the meaning of the Trigram like Kun is yielding, slow down, not much scoring… On the other hand Trigram ☶ is stopping, defensing, but it is a Yang Trigram; therefore, it does make attacks and goals…

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Ukraine=yellow
Sweden=blue (with a thin yellow stripe across)
Examples of more important questions: will North Korea go to war with South Korea? or Will there be a shift of power in USA? or will China go into an economic recession? But don't mine me, those are only my choices, what matters is what you consider important. Keep up the good work.
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Dear Sergio,

I do not know if those choices of yours are important to people here or not, but I don't think there is any reading about it or anybody asking about it. If it is important why nobody wants to talk about it?

Why don’t you and I have some fun together? One of these days when you have the urge to know about one of the choices you have stated and throw it up here, I will join you and the rest of people here to make some predictions. That’s why we learn I Ching for, right?

Those, of course, I never pay attention to unless someone asks.

Oh, you talk about the shift of power, do you mean who will be the next president? If that's the question, then I had answered Obama will be President again when my niece asked me last year.

She was really mad and wanting to make a bet with me for $100.00, and I accepted the bet.

Also, for Romney I had a very good experience with a special type of my reading let me share it with you. (I did the reading because of my creation not because of the candidates). When I read online with the question: "Who will be the nominated President candidate for Republican in 2012?", and they provided a list of random name as following:

Rick Perry
Mitt Romney
Michele Bachmann
Ron Paul
John Huntsman
Herman Cain
Newt Gingrich
Rick Santorum
Gary Johnson

It is on the 24 day of the 8 month of the lunar calendar at the hour of Cat/Rabbit. The Hexagram as following:

☵ > ☴
☱ > ☱ Line 6 is changing

we see that Hexagram 60 is named 節 (jié), "Articulating", "limitation", "moderation", select,... these guys were debating for people to select.

Hexagram 61 is named 中孚 (zhōng fú), "Center Returning", middle, keeping promise, prestige,... to be able to win the election.

We see that line 6 is changing, if we take 9 names and divide it by 6 (lines) = 1.5 => 1.5 x5 = 7.5 not yet 8. So line 6 is changing should include the last two on the top, which is number 8 and 9: Rick Perry and Mitt Romney. (That is because Hexagram counts from the bottom up to line 6).

Well, Mitt Romney's name is in the middle/center because it tends more to line 5, while Perry is on line 6 totally, which should be overthrown soon. Mitt Romney should be THE ONE.

I use the same formula to predict the last Forex and it was correct as everybody can see. I will use that for the next nine predictions on Forex, and we will see how accurate it is from the test of time.

And right here again, I use this formula to predict the outcome of who will be the next Euro Soccer Champion of 2012? (The list I found on Wikipedia)

Croatia
Czech Republic
Denmark
England
Spain
Germany
Greece
Italy
Netherland
Poland
Portugal
Republic of Ireland
Russia
France
Sweden
Ukraine

The question was asking at 20:30 PM of June 08th.

☴ > ☶ > ☰
☷ > ☷ > ☷ line 4 is changing

Using the same technique and predict that Germany will be the WINNER, and I did not ask about the runner up; however from the reading, Spain should be the runner up.

We should wait and see.

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According to the Hexs for Ukraine and Sweden from the prediction it should be correct, but at the time there were something happen in front of my eyes (The SEE) to throw me off. So the prediction can go the other way. This is a sign for me to stop this game and take some time to sit back to relax my mind, to meditate and to contemplate about it.

The problem with these preliminary games is not just winning and losing but it may be a tie also; Therefore, it must have a special way for this kind of prediction to be correct every time.

Hopefully, I will finish what need to be done and comeback before the 21st or at least the 27th of this month to continue the game. This is a study of a lifetime, so if it takes me more than a month or two to satisfy a special field of School for I Ching then it should be worth my time.

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Dear Wateronearth;
I always thought that through observation of nature the ancients saw patterns unfolding that would be affecting us or not and therefore if we harmonize ourselves with nature's rhythms we would have a better quality of life.If you read my post correctly I am just giving you examples of more important questions, that they are not asked does belittles their obvious importance toward your futile(so far)attempts to predict a football game result; but if that is what is important to you, that is o.k with me; It is still a futile exercise to me. The difference in between you and me is that by attempting to predict everything you unveil your true purpose that of feeling in control of reality as if it were an inanimate object, or a theatre full of silly puppets whose every move you can easily anticipate.I for one, use the I Ching for guidance: how to act correctly at the right time- and personal development. I do not use the I Ching to predict the future anymore than I watch the Weather Network to check upcoming weather. If we agree that the flutter of a butterflies in Mexico could unravel a string of events that results in a Tsunami in Taiwan(resonance) how could you then predict who will win a soccer game?Not to mention that you only think about winning or loosing as probabilities not even realizing that a draw is possible, not to mention you take no account of these teams past history (a total disrespect to all of them) not to mention you base your predictions on the shirts colours and I could go on...Just in case I could care less if Obama wins or looses; That is up to the American People to decide therefore I do not need nor am I interested to put a wager ion it. Maybe you would of course. That seems to be your mentality.
Be well and try to enjoy this football tournament for what it is, a lot of fun. And along the way just like many fans around the world you and me will make our predictions and will see our teams and suffer or be happy with, brag about their winnings, root unconditionally for them all of that without resorting to the I Ching.
Sergio
 
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Its quite brave of Earth to put himself and his reputation on the line making specific sports predictions which can be tested by results.
This kind of prediction is old hat to Wen Wang Ba Gua master.
There is a fun aspect to sports prediction and its an opportunity to hone skills and develop method for the more serious questions.
This work is high class and worthy of print and study.
Is there a book on Mei hua in the pipeline by Water on Earth.
 
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Dear Wateronearth;
I always thought that through observation of nature the ancients saw patterns unfolding that would be affecting us or not and therefore if we harmonize ourselves with nature's rhythms we would have a better quality of life. If you read my post correctly I am just giving you examples of more important questions, that they are not asked does belittles their obvious importance toward your futile(so far)attempts to predict a football game result; but if that is what is important to you, that is o.k with me; It is still a futile exercise to me. The difference in between you and me is that by attempting to predict everything you unveil your true purpose that of feeling in control of reality as if it were an inanimate object, or a theatre full of silly puppets whose every move you can easily anticipate.I for one, use the I Ching for guidance: how to act correctly at the right time- and personal development. I do not use the I Ching to predict the future anymore than I watch the Weather Network to check upcoming weather. If we agree that the flutter of a butterflies in Mexico could unravel a string of events that results in a Tsunami in Taiwan(resonance) how could you then predict who will win a soccer game?Not to mention that you only think about winning or loosing as probabilities not even realizing that a draw is possible, not to mention you take no account of these teams past history (a total disrespect to all of them) not to mention you base your predictions on the shirts colours and I could go on...

Dear Sergio,

I dearly respect your thought and practice.

For me, I Ching Tao compare to the TAO that I practice is almost useless. We can see that I Ching Tao is to come back to THE ONE – comprise of a Yin and Yang, while mine is THE ZERO/EMPTINESS, no Yin nor Yang, NOTHING. However, I always respect what other people practice! That’s why you see my nick is Water 0n [Zero (n) look like On] Earth.

For that reason, I use I Ching as a GAME in life because for normal people everything in their lives is predestined. That’s why everything can be predicted in advance. In any case that I cannot predict it then it just because I do not know enough I Ching or I did not pay enough attention to it, not because I Ching cannot do that!!! I also, look at life as a PLAY and Earth is as a STAGE, that each person on Earth plays his best role, and anything happen in life is a part of the PLAY - THE CAUSE and EFFECT.

Just in case I could care less if Obama wins or looses; That is up to the American People to decide therefore I do not need nor am I interested to put a wager ion it. Maybe you would of course. That seems to be your mentality.

I would care less about it same as you, but it is predestined for the American People to decide what the PLAY has already written and no one can change it. (Can I unveil what has written or not that is all up to my ability).

There is one misunderstood from you that I need to make clear. I accepted the wagers is to tell them that at least I believe or know what I am talking about, not just something I said in vain. In case if I ever lose, I will spend nights, days, months, or even years till I figure it out, so there would never be the same mistake next time. That is the best way to learn for me. I do not go around and ask people to make a bet with me.

As everybody sees that when I am not quite sure of my study I will say that in advance, I do not talk about it like I know when I do not.

There is a real example from this morning that I can tell you about. A friend of mine asked me to have some breakfast so I hurried up and made a prediction about Denmark and Portugal before I left home. At the breakfast he asked me about making the bet on soccer (which I never thought of), and I showed him what I have done not too long before that and told him: “This is the new experiment, I do not know how accurate it is. When I know it I will tell you, but not at this time”. Then I asked him: “what do you want to bet in the first place”? It was happened that he thought Denmark will win, when my prediction is a tie, so he make the bet on Denmark. After that he asked me about under and over because he wanted to bet under. I told him again, “I am not quite sure yet, but what if it is 2-2”? Finally, he took my word and did not make that bet.

He then asked me about the next game for German and Netherland. Actually it was still at the same hour and we had the same Hexagrams for Denmark and Portugal. I sat there and go deep into my unconscious mind for about 5-10 minutes to search for it and there it was: double month in lunar calendar on my computer and the year was 2012 caught my attention at that moment. According to the UEFA schedule they had Ned on top and German at the bottom. I told him, “I predict that German will win 1-2 because of 1 month 2 times and 2012. You see we have the same Hexagrams because of the same time, but I use my normal way of prediction to come up with this answer. That’s what I Ching really is. With the same Hex at the same time, but using it in a mechanical way and using with THE SEE, THE HEAR, and THE FEEL, it will be totally different”. (Now since I relive this prediction and check back, I see that 2012 > 20/12 > first half 2-0, and second half > 1-2. With deeper concentration one may be able to pin point that; it is predictable! However, I was curious about what 20 stand for but could not figure it out at the time).

Well, actually the first one he bet $3,000 USD and lost because of the last 7 minutes with the score of 2-3 from 2-2. The next one he bet $3,000 German will win, and $1,000 over 2 ¼ scores. On the second half he bet again, and lost $1,000. Anyway he came out even. (He’s a millionaire, few thousand is not that big to him. As I have predicted many times about things that happen to him in advance, and today his main purpose is to ask me about his future again).

I told him “See. You also asked me one question about your money today on the games, and I told you the Triad of WOOD = $3,000 seem like coming to you, but you cannot get it. That reading make a lot of sense now huh”?

Oh, after the Denmark and Portugal game, I went to a Vietnamese coffee shop to get a cup of coffee, and an acquaintance of mine was looking for the bookie because he wanted to make a bet on Germany for $200. I told him that “German 2-1 is a sure win, make sure you will bet on that”. (That is a 1:5 pay as I was told if I am not mistaken. I do not know anything about it). Since he was still a little skeptical, I told him, “All you need to do just buy me a cup of coffee next time to repay me for that”, on my way out. It is not the first time those guys at the coffee shop buy me coffee.

I always think that it is good to share some thoughts. I hope to learn more from you.

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Dear water in earth, can you please try to predict the next game for Croatia?
 

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Its quite brave of Earth to put himself and his reputation on the line making specific sports predictions which can be tested by results.
This kind of prediction is old hat to Wen Wang Ba Gua master.
There is a fun aspect to sports prediction and its an opportunity to hone skills and develop method for the more serious questions.
This work is high class and worthy of print and study.
Is there a book on Mei hua in the pipeline by Water on Earth.

Dear Peterg,

Thanks for valued my study a little high.

Basically there are two reasons why I do this without being brave:

1. I believe I Ching is science; therefore it can be learned from mistakes, concrete facts, and experiments (which I have done almost every day of about the past 20 years)
2. I have no reputation, that’s why I do not have anything to lose. I believe everything in this life is not real, just like a dream and will be all gone when we wake up. We cannot bring anything with us but we can leave back something valuable for this world when we are gone. So I try to do the best that I can, and if it can help someone then that’s all I wish.

Peter there is no pipeline of Mei Hua Yi Shu from me. However, I was inspired by a gentleman who really likes my study on Clarity to write a book of Mei Hua Yi Shu, a book of my own SYSTEM, and a book of Six Lines I Ching of 5 Elements. He does have some connection with people who can help publish my book once it is finished. That is what I am doing now. If it is fate and time for me to do so then it will be done and will be valuable to people; otherwise, it will just be a worthless book and have no use for people.

Thank you for understanding and encouraging me.

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Dear water in earth, can you please try to predict the next game for Croatia?

Dear yamabushi,

Can you give me a more concrete question? If it is important to you you can ask the question when you feel like you want to know and please let me know the local date and time so we can use it as a case study. Please hurry ASAP, we do not have much time left.

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Dear yamabushi,

Can you give me a more concrete question? If it is important to you you can ask the question when you feel like you want to know and please let me know the local date and time so we can use it as a case study. Please hurry ASAP, we do not have much time left.

Water 0n Earth

dear water on earth,

will Croatia win next game against Spain?

Is it ok like this?
June 17, 11.33 am, gmt+1, Zagreb, Croatia
 

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For that reason, I use I Ching as a GAME in life because for normal people everything in their lives is predestined. That’s why everything can be predicted in advance.

I told him “See. You also asked me one question about your money today on the games, and I told you the Triad of WOOD = $3,000 seem like coming to you, but you cannot get it. That reading makes a lot of sense now huh”?

Today I just want to prove it with one real example just happened when the Euro Soccer games ended about 30 minutes ago.

Last time my friend asked me about his money from the Euro soccer games on that day by 3 coins, and we had the Hexagrams as following:

Date: Yin Wood Snake day; Month: Yang Fire Horse (June 13, 2012)

Hexagram 58 (Dui) ------------------ Hexagram 9 (xiǎo chù)

- - Parent Goat Earth X (SELF) ---- Money Cat/Rabbit Wood
--- Sibling Chicken Metal
--- Offspring Pig Water 0 ---------- Parent Goat Earth
- - Parent Ox Earth X (EXTERNAL) Parent Dragon Earth
--- Money Cat/Rabbit Wood
--- Official/Career Snake Fire

Like I have said last time, changing line 4, 6 forming a Wood Triads, Cat Wood is in a non-existing stage, not until Sunday the day of the Chicken that will come and impact the Cat Wood into existing stage then the money will come true, not a dream any more.

This morning at 9:48 AM I called my friend to ask him if he will bet on soccer today. He told me he was not planned to play today. I reminded him of that 3 coins oracle that he consulted last Wednesday and told him that “I told you that you cannot take that money till Sunday, and today is Sunday your lucky day. Go ahead and make your bet today however you like and you will win”.

He tried to ask for my thought through my reading, I told him that: “At this time I have not done it yet, but since you ask I will do the same thing like last time so just hold on”. After that I told him: “Since you ask me a specific question ‘will Germany win over Denmark and the total score’, so here is my prediction: Germany will win over Denmark, and the total score of 3 goals from both team that is over 2 1/4. This is based on the Inner Trigram Li ☲ (3) is changing from Hexagram 63 is "Already Fording” at the time you ask. The winner of the group will be the winner of today’s game. Sorry I cannot figure out the Portugal vs. Netherland game at this time, but if straight from my mind I would say Portugal will win. I will call you back when I have the answer, but please keep in mind today is your lucky day – your money day; do not pay attention to what I say, just do what you feel like and you will win. Today is your money day, just bet and win”.

At the end of the game I called him to ask him what he had bet, and I found out that he had bet Portugal over 2 ¼ and Germany over 2 ¼. He actually had won all 4 bets.

From the Hexagram above we see that the External Ox the Parent is ME and it is changing to come and to impact him the Goat to win. (Parent - the information, I called to give him the information).

To close my point, if everything in a normal person’s life is not PREDESTINED, how could I called my friend early in the morning out of the blue and told him straight up that he will win if he would play today!? Would I dared or be crazy enough to call him and told him for sure that he would win??? I do not think I have the courage to do so.

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dear water on earth,

will Croatia win next game against Spain?

Is it ok like this?
June 17, 11.33 am, gmt+1, Zagreb, Croatia

Your question is on the 29th of month 4 in Lunar calendar, and we should have the Hexagram as following:

☵ > ☶ > ☵
☳ > ☷ > ☱ Line 2 is changing

Hexagram 3 is named 屯 (zhūn), "Sprouting", "difficulty at the beginning", "gathering support"

Hexagram 23 is named 剝 (bō), "Stripping", "splitting apart"

Hexagram 60 is named 節 (jié), "Articulating", "limitation"

This is what I saw on TV at the time I did the reading: 03:00 > 00:13.

From the Hexs mean that Croatia cannot win the game, trying to limit the hard time to a tie. That is the best Croatia can do! However, according to my decoding of what I saw is: It is game 3 for both team and each already had 4 points so that was also a tie in points, no advance (03:00) > 00:13 > 00/13. It may be 0/0 in first half (not too sure) and there is 1 more goal for Spain at the end out of a total 3 goals from two teams. That is what I see from 13 at the end. According to your question Croatia stands before Spain. (I use the same way that I had predicted for my friend)

However, I hope my prediction is totally wrong, and wish the best happen to your country. I wish Croatia will win!

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Your question is on the 29th of month 4 in Lunar calendar, and we should have the Hexagram as following:

☵ > ☶ > ☵
☳ > ☷ > ☱ Line 2 is changing

Hexagram 3 is named 屯 (zhūn), "Sprouting", "difficulty at the beginning", "gathering support"

Hexagram 23 is named 剝 (bō), "Stripping", "splitting apart"

Hexagram 60 is named 節 (jié), "Articulating", "limitation"

This is what I saw on TV at the time I did the reading: 03:00 > 00:13.

From the Hexs mean that Croatia cannot win the game, trying to limit the hard time to a tie. That is the best Croatia can do! However, according to my decoding of what I saw is: It is game 3 for both team and each already had 4 points so that was also a tie in points, no advance (03:00) > 00:13 > 00/13. It may be 0/0 in first half (not too sure) and there is 1 more goal for Spain at the end out of a total 3 goals from two teams. That is what I see from 13 at the end. According to your question Croatia stands before Spain. (I use the same way that I had predicted for my friend)

However, I hope my prediction is totally wrong, and wish the best happen to your country. I wish Croatia will win!

Water 0n Earth

How can prediction by using I ching numerology be wrong?

So you think there will be 3 goals and goal more for Spain and that there will be very hard game?

I used yarrow for same question and answer was 39.5>15, I dont know how to interpret it, only that it will be very hard game for Croatia....
 

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How can prediction by using I ching numerology be wrong?

So you think there will be 3 goals and goal more for Spain and that there will be very hard game?

I used yarrow for same question and answer was 39.5>15, I dont know how to interpret it, only that it will be very hard game for Croatia....

Dear Yamabushi,

I Ching will never be wrong, but it is us always may be wrong. What if we do the reading when lack of sleep, lack of concentration, during a crisis...? When we are not calm, relax, and clear we may be wrong.

For your question using yarrow this is what I see:

39.5: Croatia will be in a hard time and does not have special talent players to help Croatia, but they have good team play; especially with any guy wearing number: 3, 13, 23, 33..., 7, 17, 27, 37..., 8, 18, 28, 38..., would be a big help to Croatia. [This is what I get from the reading, I have no idea if it is true].

15: Vital attack with many players help each other is what Croatia need to win (line 5 means that), no need for many attacks without helpers (line 5 Yin - no power will lose the game). That is what Hexagram 15 means.

Again I wish that Croatia can do like what Hexagram 15 has spelled out and win the game!

Water 0n Earth
 
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