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What's your take on the meaning of the first word and first line of 27.6?
Legge and Wilhelm talk about the querent *being* the source of nourishment here, Karcher talks about the querent *being nourished by what came before*, and Shaughnessy just translates you2 as 'from'. I've rendered it as 'source', but my problem still remains - am I the source of the nourishment, or is the source outside me and providing me with nourishment?
Or do you see it as meaning something else entirely?
Where's the actual nourishment? lol
am I the source of the nourishment, or is the source outside me and providing me with nourishment?
This sounds like a Zen koan. Who is the I? To which I do you refer? Depends on how you define 'I'. Maybe the answer is both inside and outside. Easy to say philosopically and take a stand, but experientially....I still wrestle with this one.
am I the source of the nourishment, or is the source outside me and providing me with nourishment?
This sounds like a Zen koan. Who is the I? To which I do you refer? Depends on how you define 'I'. Maybe the answer is both inside and outside. Easy to say philosopically and take a stand, but experientially....I still wrestle with this one.
Best regards,
KgW
Magic Tortoise-
I gather 27 has special relevance to you,
for calling yourself Ling Gui (magic tortoise).
If you are either small or young could we call you Linguini?
If you're clever with words you could be the Linguiist
This tough bread I'm gnawing on now - surely it can't have grown from seeds I sowed? Isn't there another field somewhere?
If you're clever with words you could be the Linguiist
Okay, I've thought about this some more. You're right - it depends which 'I' is being referred to or identified with. But taking one or the other vantage point isn't a problem just for Hex 27 or 27.6 - it's an issue with every hexagram and line in the Yi, and with every moment in your life. Which 'I' is asking the question? Which 'I' is making the decision?
No?
Or if I am tricky with words I would be a Cunning Linguist?
Ken
You don't want to get into radio anyway, Brad. Most announcers cash their paychecks on the bus. But the perks are cool.
I've always liked the "magic tortoise" imagery, and the mythical spin Wilhelm puts on it. I find it empowering when I have a case of the poor me blues.
I did a show for sixteen years, but it was volunteer,
The Ling in Ling Gui is maybe closer to what the Native Americans call "Spirit" or "Medicine." Medicine Tortoise is how it might translate to them. It's a totem animal with special powers. Ling is also the subtle intelligence that you use to divine. It's also found in Peyote buttons.
Was it public broadcasting?
Maybe we lose our soul.
Yes... I was aiming for the first character in 27.6 - the field and the seedling that sprouts there, right? And a sense -at least to judge from the compounds it's used in at Zhongwen - of being the container-out-of-which things come?It looks a little like this, but it's Tian2, and it appears in 01.2, 07.5, 32.4, 40.2 and 57.4
Yes... I was aiming for the first character in 27.6 - the field and the seedling that sprouts there, right? And a sense -at least to judge from the compounds it's used in at Zhongwen - of being the container-out-of-which things come?
We must recognize that we already ARE one with God, that we have or that we are the Magic Tortoise.
I don't know if I have gotten any closer to plumbing the 'source', though. I still am inclined to believe the source is both inside and outside of us. The difficulty I believe is in trying to make a dividing line of inside and out. They coexist like light and dark, no?
For me, the source is beyond me or above me, and the way to it is found within me. Direct attention inward in the right way, with the right attitude and preparation, with the right support and guidance, and you find the door to the source, just like the kids find their way into Narnia via the wardrobe.
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