11.4.6 What does this mean??

[ec456]

Okay so I have been doing a lot of work with the IChing lately. I moved to Hong Kong from USA a month or so ago. I recently made my first post about my girlfriend and I's future which gave me the well 48 changing to waiting 5. She has been somewhat indifferent about our relationship keeping me at arms length and flip flops over whether she will come to visit me. I got some good readings on that. Things are still pretty much in the same place as they were before. I spend a lot of time pining over it but some inner space has begun to expand with the matter. However I am stuck with this longing emptiness for love. I wake up feeling heartbroken and don't know why. I go back in forth about the situation with me and her and do not know what it all means..
I also have been having a very rigorous schooling here, if you are thinking about coming to school here I strongly consider thinking it over. Its much more difficult than the USA I have been working to learning Mandarin with almost no instruction at a very rapid pace. This has been a very independent source of stress. However things are starting to ease up in certain ways and I have actually reached a place of PEACE internally at the moment. Started some meditation and stopped fighting all the changes.. Still this longing and emptiness seems to haunt me.
I figured I should give this backdrop as the IChing seems to take whichever piece of your story it wants to advise upon and so this might leave room for different approaches in interpretation.
SO what brings me back to this board is that I am VERY confused by the recent reading I got today. I asked the IChing about the emptiness and longing which I have been experiencing. I got 11 Peace with changing lines 4 and 6. This changes to hexagram 14 Possession in Great Measure. So I am stumped. 14 seems to be foretelling of a very happy ending. But the changing lines in particular, the 6 seem very ominous. How can I interpret this? I am not sure whether or not to feel positively or negatively about this reading..

 

[ec456]

any ideas? Things are sort of going rough between me and my gf recently talking about maybe breaking up, she sees me as too negative. I have problems because she doesnt seem interested in our relationship and parties alot.. but weve been together so long almost 2 years i love her so much.. i did 2 readings one was 63 unchanging the next was hexagram 3.4 to 17.. any help? I am really struggling here.. I can barely focus

 

[ec456]

I asked if I should just go home first got 57 unchanging.. Then got 10 to 57 .. I know I am asking too much.. I really just want to go home, I just keep trying to get some insights.. So confused.

 

[ginnie]

10.1.3.4 > 57

I asked if I should just go home first got 57 unchanging.. Then got 10 to 57 ..

You are not feeling strong right now, but Yi thinks it all has to do with how you conduct yourself now and advises you to hold yourself with dignity and composure. Sounds like you've got a terrific case of homesickness, ec456!!! Hang on and don't do anything impulsive!


By the way, 11.6 does not mean the end of the relationship. It is one of those lines with dire language, but the reality may be much less intense and not long-lasting at all. Just moments of disquiet is what I hope it means for you ...

 

[ec456]

Thanks Ginnie for your advice/interpretation. I am trying to remain calm and keep going. I know I have not been as dignified and composed as I need to be, this is a good reminder.. Me and her are supposed to talk about things this weekend. I hope we can make things work. I am worried :/

 

[ginnie]

I hope your conversation with your girlfriend goes okay over the weekend, ec456. It is very difficult to convey subtle feelings over long distances. I just wanted to say again that the wording of line 11.6 is very alarming, but in reality it often doesn't play out that way.

 

[troubadour]

ec456 my thought on 11.6 is that possibly you are perhaps being advised to pay attention to your "walls" ie own personal boundaries and not to try to impose your own wishes/views on your girlfriend?

 

[ec456]

Thanks for your interpretations/advice troubadour and ginnie, really means a lot! Things are still at a standstill between us. We never had the talk, she is always busy with other things. I think the interpretation about the walls is accurate. I do want to respect her boundaries but they are so enormous that its like we don't even have a relationship. I did a reading last night and got 28 unchanging.. Unsure if that has anything to do with us, it was more of a broader reading. Maybe ts referring to my personal progress.. Things have started to get a little better for me I started a work out plan which has made me alot more relaxed. However I just keep coming back to our relationship.. Sometimes I don't know if she is just trying to let me go slowly, its so hard to tell. I think I will do another cast tonight and see what it says then share here. Thanks for your replies you guys, they help more than you can know. The IChing sometimes confuses me!

 

[ec456]

Ok so I have still not been getting any real communication from her. I try not to push it. I just tell her that miss her and care about her, am thinking of her etc., But don't ask for anything in return.. and don't get anything , just short text messages with little emotion. I did a cast tonight and got hexagram 41.3.5 changing into hexagram 9.. Does anyone have any idea of the meaning for this? I am perplexed.. I just wish I knew what she wanted, I want her to want me so much but its like there is nothing there anymore.. I am confused and sad but trying to be patient..

 

[ec456]

Does the 3rd line imply someone else is in her life now?

 

[jbutler]

Hello,
I find your post interesting and I have a few comments. Relationships are all about attraction. Hex 11 is probably reflecting your status with your superior in China. Line 4 indicate that you are united and communication with those people. Stay on course towards your aim, and if offered, use the help of others for your studies. Line six indicate a decline has begun between you and someone else. You can't prevent it. nothing can be done. Instead, strengthen you ties with those close to you. I hear chinese girl are very pretty. Focus on what's going on around you and not on what you dream about. You can't attract a girl who is not attracted to you any more. I don't want to be mean, but the Yi seems to be clear on this. I hope you find a girl who can satisfy your needs there in china. Farewell.

 

[troubadour]

Ok so I have still not been getting any real communication from her. I try not to push it. I just tell her that miss her and care about her, am thinking of her etc., But don't ask for anything in return.. and don't get anything , just short text messages with little emotion. I did a cast tonight and got hexagram 41.3.5 changing into hexagram 9.. Does anyone have any idea of the meaning for this? I am perplexed.. I just wish I knew what she wanted, I want her to want me so much but its like there is nothing there anymore.. I am confused and sad but trying to be patient..

ec456 41.3.5 is an interesting casting. In my view 41.3 is not saying a third persdon is involved but it IS saying there are hidden complications and that it would be wise for you to back off (or reduce - which is the meaning of Hexagram 41 - your focus as it seems to me you clearly are getting overfocused and intense) and give your girlfriend some space.

Hexagram 41.5 says your girlfriend does - and will - recognize and appreciate your kindness so that is a good thing to hold on to, keep being kind and give her space and time to work out whatever issues she may be dealing with.

And keep thinking about your own boundaries and limits, don't lose those, apart from your need for integrity and self-respect, if you seem all needy and grasping and desperate and near collapse that will not be attractive to your girlfriend.

The changiong Hexagram, 9 Small Restraint, seems to underscore the message that it is time for you to kick back, build up your own inner resources and find a place of self-restraint and calm originating from a deeper understanding that this is the appropriate time to take it easy and let the Universe unfold as it should.

You sound to me like a really cool woman. Just put yourself first a bit! And please keep us updated, I feel sure that if you follow good advice (from all of us here!) and reconnect with your own convicion of your own fabulousness you are going to find happiness as you deserve.

If your girlfriend can't help you to find that happiness then I think she is the loser, not you - and one day she will regret it. Bitterly. And then she'll be casting the Yi and turning to this forum to understand where it all went wrong! :bows:

 

[ec456]

Thanks jbutler and troubador for both of your interpretations it is very helpful to have some wise insights.. My gf just broke up with me last night. She seems very certain. Keeps telling me how much she loves me but how I stifled her in her life and that she feels she can never be happy with me. I am very heartbroken. I did 2 casts the first was about me and her 3.4.5 to 21 .. The second was about coming home 10.2 to 25. I am not sure whether the IChing decided to address different subjects with its answers. I am a little confused and emotionally exhausted. I just don't know what to do with myself..

 

[ec456]

And Troubador thanks for the kind words they actually were very touching for me to hear.

 

[troubadour]

Sorry to hear this, I hope the Yi's accuracy helped you at least a little bit to be prepared. I repeat the last comments I made and hope you won't go chasing after her. Clearly she has decided you are okay with being taken for granted. Do yourself a favour. Leave her alone. I bet you will soon begin to see how unhappy the relationship has made you and how good life will be in the future if you think of yourself and stop idolizing someone who doesn't appreciate it. The further casts you received support me on that.

 

[ginnie]

Truly miserable to hear this bad news when you are so far from home. My heart goes out to you ...

Don't allow the breakup to spread into a depression. That is, try to see it as something brought about by Fate. Acceptance of Fate is difficult for Westerners. Maybe these difficulties are just something you are fated to go through, maybe for karmic reasons. Keep up your good workout routine!!!

Regarding going home, your 10.2 says, "The recluse treads his path peacefully. ... The recluse is a fortunate man because he cleaves to the middle path and does not allow himself to be confused."

In other words, try to remember your original reason for going to Hong Kong and try to re-connect with that strong purpose. Keep your mind off your former gf and what she said to you. If you think of her, that will only bring you down. You have got to go on without her in your life, and it sounds like it will be better for you in the long run that she is out of your life, because she did not appreciate you ... but rather she abandoned you when you were far away from home, rather stranded in a strange place. Try to connect to your immediate surroundings, the place where you find yourself. You will find this easier to do if you keep your mind off of her. In other words: Don't think about her. :bows::bows:

 

[trustcanon]

Ec456 has moved to Hong Kong, but could not take with you the Well, Gua 48, the origin of your love. You won’t harm nor benefit from each other. Someone else may drink water out of the Well. You might have one also while she has been prone to meeting another as expressed on the first sentence of the Well Gua. Ec456 has been advised to sympathize with people and to encourage mutual help to bring about Gua 5 Want for nurturing in time. Gua 11 changed to 14 does not count much, best of the best Gua though, since this is drawn for the second, as opposed to the first 48 to 5 that has been prevalent during the course of the Oracle effect. Gua 28 advises Ec456 to stay away from fear while alone and to from worry while secluded since good days far away as if pillars unstable but still going forward would call for the better. Gua 41 looks diminishing for now but gains later on. Her position is on the 5th while you are on the 3rd. If somebody else gets in the position he is on the 4th. Ec456 has been advised to stay there in Hong kong as has been warned off by Gua 57, otherwise would fall into a trap.