12.4.5.6 to 2 what I don't see or don't want to accept in this relationship

[polaire]

Hello again,
I just asked the yi about what I don't want to see in this relationship, the road is closed since a while, but I keep waiting and hoping, he said that we will see each other soon that he miss me, but it is hard to communicate and to get any tangible informations about what's going on for him about us. There is also a huge geographic distance and he has a lot of obligations at work.

The Yi said 12.4.5.6 to 2...

Is it I don't accept that it's over? or that I don't accept to be Yin and wait that the stagnation stopped?

thank you for your help,
Polaire

 

[diamant]

Hi polaire,

what I don't want to see in this relationship 12.4.5.6 > 2
He's not interested in happiness, he has (or had) ulterior motives (12.4).
Someone (obviously you) is suffering greatly, I'm wondering if his silence is deliberate to cause this (12.5).
Then after the suffering he knows you'll feel happy to hear from him (12.6).
2 is either 'empty' or 'accepting'.

Would you like to be with someone who loves you back?
If yes, this is not the right man for you.
Someone who loves you doesn't reject you and ignore you.

 

[dfreed]

He's not interested in happiness, he has (or had) ulterior motives (12.4).
Someone (obviously you) is suffering greatly, I'm wondering if his silence is deliberate to cause this (12.5).

Diamant, by way of an observation, in almost every reading you interpret, you seem to make men out to be the 'bad ones': that men always have ulterior motives, that they are only interested in their own needs, they are arrogant, and always shame their women, they are cheating on their women, and are deliberately causing women harm ... etc., etc., etc.

And you are so consistent in saying this (over and over and over), that it makes me wonder, are your 'interpretations' about these other people (women), or is this more about you and your own relationship with - and feelings towards - men? And it makes me seriously consider (quoting Aretha, a great woman): who's zoomin' who here?

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[diamant]

Diamant, by way of an observation, in almost every reading you interpret, you seem to make men out to be the 'bad ones': that men always have ulterior motives, that they are only interested in their own needs, they are arrogant, and always shame their women, they are cheating on their women, and are deliberately causing women harm ... etc., etc., etc.

And you are so consistent in saying this (over and over and over), that it makes me wonder, are your 'interpretations' about these other people (women), or is this more about you and your own relationship with - and feelings towards - men? And it makes me seriously consider (quoting Aretha, a great woman): who's zoomin' who here?

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@dfreed no you've assessed me completely wrong. I have nothing against men. The majority of querents and questions here are women who have met this type of man, so if some situations are similar, then so what.
When someone (man or woman) meets a partner who is decent and great, and they get along fine, they usually don't feel the need to turn to divination. There you go.

 

[dfreed]

@dfreed no you've assessed me completely wrong. I have nothing against men.

Okay, I understand. However for me, many times I don't see the 'men' as being at fault - where you often do - and certainly not entirely so, but that's how your responses come across. It's as "if your answer is often, "if you just get rid of this arrogant cheater, you'll be fine". But to simply say that 'so-in-so is doing you wrong' does not really get at why many people are in these bad relationships in the first place - and so they keep repeating this patterns over and over.

In one instance I heard one person talk about being attracted to 'arrogant men' and then say that this was how her father is too - and I thought, what's the issue here: these supposedly arrogant men, OR - more likely - that this person has unresolved family/father issues? But to then have some sort of shared sisterly bonding over dislike of these 'arrogants' does not really get at the issues underlying many of these situations.

I think the Yi often goes deeper than just assigning blame.

 

[diamant]

I strongly dislike cheaters and arrogant people, and that means of both/all genders.
I personally don't care at all why a grown adult behaves in a nasty manner to others.
It's enough for me to recognise the nasty person and get rid of them if possible.

Of course you should suit yourself and view such situations, and the I Ching, in any way you personally like. If you don't like how I read the I Ching, then just don't read my posts.

 

[ZeroPoint]

Hello again,
I just asked the yi about what I don't want to see in this relationship, the road is closed since a while, but I keep waiting and hoping, he said that we will see each other soon that he miss me, but it is hard to communicate and to get any tangible informations about what's going on for him about us. There is also a huge geographic distance and he has a lot of obligations at work.

The Yi said 12.4.5.6 to 2...

Is it I don't accept that it's over? or that I don't accept to be Yin and wait that the stagnation stopped?

thank you for your help,
Polaire

I'm getting something a little different. You're blocked in part because there's some inner growth that can't happen if you pursue to closely and without any energy supporting you. So it may or may not have anything to do with him. It may be timing; or your growth; or it may even be about him.

The problem as I see it is that you expect things from him in excess of his ability to deliver at this time. Might a useful distraction in something you do have control over be a better way to spend your time now?