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Hello all,

The past few days i've been devastated by the violent loss of my beautiful cat. We hadn't been together for too long, but she was a wonderful animal and the very first time i had a pet in my house..She fell off the balcony and i found her gravely injured, took her to the doctor only to find out there was nothing we could do to save her.. The whole process has been a trauma for me. I keep blaming my self and the pictures of her last moments are still in my mind...

Today, i went to the grocery store near my house and the lady who works there had put a piece of paper on the window: "Kittens are given away". I thought i'd ask her and she took me to the back of the store to show me 3 scared little kittens she had found on the street..She told me it was impossible for her to take them home but she did not want to leave them and she was afraid of what would happen if her boss found out she keeps them there.

My firts thought was that i could take one of them with me but then i thought that maybe it is too early..I told her i would sleep on it tonight and contact her tomorrow. I was so touched by those beautiful little creatures that i couldn't stop thinking about them. On the other hand, i know i already have issues with loss and i'm worried that maybe bringing a new cat home would be a hasty decision, that would distract me from facing the loss of my beloved Rosa (that was my cat's name).. I do not want to do this if i am not ready and it's only been 5 days..

So, I went home and asked the Yi:
"Please comment on my thoughts of bringning this new kittie home so soon"
14.1.3.5>6

I think that all three lines suggest that if my intentions are true and honest and i keep the difficulties in mind there will be "no blame"..And maybe hex 6 discribes my inner conflicts..I am too confused to read through this clearly though and that's why i'd love to know what you see in it..Any input welcome!

Love
A.:bows:
 
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A - I think this is a case of the Universe providing, through Rosa.

Rosa probably knows how much love you have to give and has become aware of the plight of these 3 kittens and is asking for your support in nourishing at least one of their lives. Otherwise why would you have been led to them??

Melissa
 

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Hello all,

The past few days i've been devastated by the violent loss of my beautiful cat. We hadn't been together for too long, but she was a wonderful animal and the very first time i had a pet in my house..She fell off the balcony and i found her gravely injured, took her to the doctor only to find out there was nothing we could do to save her.. The whole process has been a trauma for me. I keep blaming my self and the pictures of her last moments are still in my mind...

Today, i went to the grocery store near my house and the lady who works there had put a piece of paper on the window: "Kittens are given away". I thought i'd ask her and she took me to the back of the store to show me 3 scared little kittens she had found on the street..She told me it was impossible for her to take them home but she did not want to leave them and she was afraid of what would happen if her boss found out she keeps them there.

My firts thought was that i could take one of them with me but then i thought that maybe it is too early..I told her i would sleep on it tonight and contact her tomorrow. I was so touched by those beautiful little creatures that i couldn't stop thinking about them. On the other hand, i know i already have issues with loss and i'm worried that maybe bringing a new cat home would be a hasty decision, that would distract me from facing the loss of my beloved Rosa (that was my cat's name).. I do not want to do this if i am not ready and it's only been 5 days..

So, I went home and asked the Yi:
"Please comment on my thoughts of bringning this new kittie home so soon"
14.1.3.5>6

I think that all three lines suggest that if my intentions are true and honest and i keep the difficulties in mind there will be "no blame"..And maybe hex 6 discribes my inner conflicts..I am too confused to read through this clearly though and that's why i'd love to know what you see in it..Any input welcome!

Love
A.:bows:

How beautiful this is....surely this is a gift to you .....without doubt it is IMO !

I think thats what the answer says. This is all about loving and having (hex 14) and sharing (14.3) and of course you are the benefactor (14.5) to one of these kittens...pity you can't take them all .

I think the hex 6 is your conflict yes...but the only reason you think you may not take them is you say your fear it means you will not be facing the loss of Rosa. But that kind of psychologising belongs with human relationships I think....for example if we take another partner soon after a loss of a partner through seperation or death of course we probably have much inner work to do and so its not good to be too hasty and of course we evolve through our relationships

I think we also evolve through our relations withthe animal kingdom but in a different way. One might say we are more 'in service' to each other perhaps...? I see each animal as part of the great oversoul/archetype of its species. Some say cats are sacred psychic creatures. You lost one cat through this horrible accident but the Great Soul of Cat (okay I know I sound daft :eek:) is still with you and it feels to me honours you by providing you with this opportunity. I've read animals have a kind of group soul to a greater degree than humans...thus by caring for one cat all cats 'know ' you and will come to you as these have.

As a word of comfort I find departed pets are still very much around us and in truth we never do lose them because we really do have bonds with them. :hug: I agree with Melissa this opportunity is likley very much tied up with Rosa anyway.


My only worry here is the balcony since it could occur again presumably. Its strange because generally cats do know what is too high for them...but perhaps you may need an additional sort of barrier or something ?
 
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I think one animal can sort of carry a 'message' from another of the same species who has died. I noticed this a few times. For example I had a black labrador and its uncanny how often black labradors approach me and rest their chins on my lap requesting acknowlegment...out of nowhere...never white labradors or other breeds...

Someone I knew had a series of deaths in one year. His wife died and then shortly after that his 2 labradors died, one of which was black., both were much loved by his wife. He told me that on his deceased wifes birthday an unknown black labrador came to the gate of the back entrance carrying an apple in its mouth which it gently placed on the ground and left as if it were a gift. Being only a small village he knew who kept which dog but this was an unknown dog.....

I don't think these kinds of happenings with animals are so unusual. Like in the old fairy stories I think if we are in harmony with animals they bring us great gifts.
 

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Thank you...

Thank you both so much for your replies here! You both sound sweet and warm and that means a lot to me..

I still haven't made up my mind..I woke up this morning feeling even more confused.. I decided i'd give myself another couple of hours but the truth is that thinking about it leads me nowhere..:confused:

I think we also evolve through our relations withthe animal kingdom but in a different way. One might say we are more 'in service' to each other perhaps...? I see each animal as part of the great oversoul/archetype of its species. Some say cats are sacred psychic creatures. You lost one cat through this horrible accident but the Great Soul of Cat (okay I know I sound daft :eek:) is still with you and it feels to me honours you by providing you with this opportunity. I've read animals have a kind of group soul to a greater degree than humans...thus by caring for one cat all cats 'know ' you and will come to you as these have.

I know what you mean trojan. I've had this feeling the past few days..and this is the exact thought that lead me to believe that maybe there's no such thing as "too soon" when it comes to taking care of an animal...

On the other hand (having the tendency to analyze everything) when Rosa died i thought that maybe this happened because i wasn't ready for that yet, so now i'm thinking what if i'm still not ready and something equally terrible happens to the next cat i bring in...Maybe i should give myself some more time..I don't know...

As for the balcony i have already decided that if i do bring a new kittie home, i am going to make sure it's safer this time. I cannot allow this to happen again..

BTW, this morning i asked again, since the confusion was still there, and got 63 unchanging..

"Thus the superior man
Takes thought of misfortune
And arms himself against it in advance."

Does this make you think of the "balcony misforune" too?


:hug: to both of you..
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I think one animal can sort of carry a 'message' from another of the same species who has died. I noticed this a few times. For example I had a black labrador and its uncanny how often black labradors approach me and rest their chins on my lap requesting acknowlegment...out of nowhere...never white labradors or other breeds...

Someone I knew had a series of deaths in one year. His wife died and then shortly after that his 2 labradors died, one of which was black., both were much loved by his wife. He told me that on his deceased wifes birthday an unknown black labrador came to the gate of the back entrance carrying an apple in its mouth which it gently placed on the ground and left as if it were a gift. Being only a small village he knew who kept which dog but this was an unknown dog.....

I don't think these kinds of happenings with animals are so unusual. Like in the old fairy stories I think if we are in harmony with animals they bring us great gifts.

That is so beautiful.. I had never known the way people and animals can connect until now and i feel no regrets about bringing Rosa home because she was the one who taught me..
 

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Thank you both so much for your replies here! You both sound sweet and warm and that means a lot to me..

I still haven't made up my mind..I woke up this morning feeling even more confused.. I decided i'd give myself another couple of hours but the truth is that thinking about it leads me nowhere..:confused:



I know what you mean trojan. I've had this feeling the past few days..and this is the exact thought that lead me to believe that maybe there's no such thing as "too soon" when it comes to taking care of an animal...

On the other hand (having the tendency to analyze everything) when Rosa died i thought that maybe this happened because i wasn't ready for that yet, so now i'm thinking what if i'm still not ready and something equally terrible happens to the next cat i bring in...Maybe i should give myself some more time..I don't know...

As for the balcony i have already decided that if i do bring a new kittie home, i am going to make sure it's safer this time. I cannot allow this to happen again..

BTW, this morning i asked again, since the confusion was still there, and got 63 unchanging..

"Thus the superior man
Takes thought of misfortune
And arms himself against it in advance."

Does this make you think of the "balcony misforune" too?


:hug: to both of you..
A.

14 is about generosity that comes with having so it follows to me the answer is about you being 'in possession of' and giving to the kitten...and vice versa of course ;)

So I am heavily drawn to see this answer as its good to take the kitten..if you can provide for it. 14.3 is about giving when you are able to...sometimes one can get it when one really is not able to. It led me later to wonder if the kitten would have access to outside space because you must be living quite high up ?

To me when i have asked about making my mind up and got 63 its been a message of 'er you have already decided' so perhaps some part of you has decided this already ?

Of course one has to understand the wealth in 14 is there to be used for others, when onehas much one can give much, so from the kittens point of view perhaps he doesn't care if you are ready or not he wants to come !? :D


But you must decide for yourself, you know best the whole circumstances etc :D
 
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Thank you both so much for your replies here! You both sound sweet and warm and that means a lot to me..

Thankyou I know am those things but I am not so sure about trojan :rofl:

Kidding I have always found trojan to be compassionate and understanding and sometimes telling me the truth has given me a keep up the....

so please hear her interpretations. :)
 

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Thank you both so much for your replies here! You both sound sweet and warm and that means a lot to me..

Thankyou I know am those things but I am not so sure about trojan :rofl:

Kidding I have always found trojan to be compassionate and understanding and sometimes telling me the truth has given me a keep up the....

so please hear her interpretations. :)


This is outrageous slander :rant:

I'm generally sweet and warm for at least 20 minutes a day. I can't do more than that !

Angel just caught me within that 20 minute period


:rofl:




Hoping to get an update on Angels decision anyway :D
 
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Oh sh... I did not realise this trojan, in future I will try to post when you are in that 20 minute window yikes!!
 

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Its only 20 minutes on a good day :rofl:



I was thinking if Angel did get the kitten it should be named after hexagram 14

Midas ?

Clarity should have its own pets afterall
 

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Update..

Well, trojan, i guess i got you on a good period of a good day! Lucky me..:rofl:

I thought you'd be curious but i did not have access to the internet until today..so,here it goes:

After thinking this over and over again, i decided i would get the kitten and accept this new beggining as a special gift...However, as it turns out, the kitten had it's owns plans along with his/her brothers/sisters..All three of them had run away during the night..
As you can imagine, i was disappointed after all the inner dialogues i've had for about 24 hours or something..

I do have a feeling though, that it was a matter of timing and that another kitten is on it's way and will arrive at the right time. This whole process did have a positive result in the sense that i know now i do want to give my love and support to another cat and i trust it will be so when i'm ready and when there's enough space for it in my house and my life..So, i better start cleaning out and making room for it..

If you have any ideas as to how the readings actually palyed out, i'd love to hear them..I think that the "if" part was of great importance here..

Thanks again,
may the "Great Soul of Cat" be with us :p
A. :bows:
 

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Well, trojan, i guess i got you on a good period of a good day! Lucky me..:rofl:

I thought you'd be curious but i did not have access to the internet until today..so,here it goes:

After thinking this over and over again, i decided i would get the kitten and accept this new beggining as a special gift...However, as it turns out, the kitten had it's owns plans along with his/her brothers/sisters..All three of them had run away during the night..As you can imagine, i was disappointed after all the inner dialogues i've had for about 24 hours or something..

I do have a feeling though, that it was a matter of timing and that another kitten is on it's way and will arrive at the right time. This whole process did have a positive result in the sense that i know now i do want to give my love and support to another cat and i trust it will be so when i'm ready and when there's enough space for it in my house and my life..So, i better start cleaning out and making room for it..

If you have any ideas as to how the readings actually palyed out, i'd love to hear them..I think that the "if" part was of great importance here..

Thanks again,
may the "Great Soul of Cat" be with us :p
A. :bows:

:weep: but I thought they were too small to run away .....or too small to just be left to fend for themselves....sad ending ! Do you believe they ran away in the night ? Or is it they were just thrown out .....? No use speculating I guess
 

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:weep: but I thought they were too small to run away .....or too small to just be left to fend for themselves....sad ending ! Do you believe they ran away in the night ? Or is it they were just thrown out .....? No use speculating I guess

Well, trojan, i thought about it myself but then the lady showed me the food she had left in case they returned, so i don't believe she threw them out..Btw, i checked again yesterday (could not resist :p), the food is there but the kitties are still missing..You're right, they were too young to be left on their own, especially in such a central street with so many cars passing by throughout the day..But they were scared and shocked when i saw them so i believe they probably panicked and run..

I wanted to share another reading i made yesterday, trying to make sense of their sudden appearence and disappearence. The question was not accurately phrased but it is my theory that the Yi knows what the real question is nomatter how i choose to phrase it. What i had in my mind was something like "why did it have to turn out this way?"

63.1.5>15

As i was reading through the lines it came to me that there's another cat in my life at the moment i haven't written here about. He's a beautiful white male, almost 7-8 months old, who was found by someone in my block. The couple who found him fed him and helped him survive and now he lives in the small garden in the central entrance of the building. He's still weak though and his eye is still healing..

Since Rosa died (which is exactly a week ago), i've been supporting him everyway i can. I brought down her food and water bowl and i give him her food i have left and i love to see him getting stronger..I did not mention this before, because it just came naturaly to me and didn't think i was doing anything special.

Line 63.5 immediately reminded me of him. May be this is my "small offer" right now and maybe this is what time asks of me. Supporting him might be exactly what i need to do at the moment, even if my ego needs to actually own a cat to fulfill it's personal, selfish needs..

Combining the above with 63.1, 15, and my previous reading, i thought that maybe this is what i actually have to offer, even if i think it is not enough. It certainly is more than enough to him and it is pure giving in accordance with the needs of the time...

I'd love to read your thoughts on this. Do you think i'm getting it right??

(Too bad we don't have a cat icon! ;))

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Well, trojan, i thought about it myself but then the lady showed me the food she had left in case they returned, so i don't believe she threw them out..Btw, i checked again yesterday (could not resist :p), the food is there but the kitties are still missing..You're right, they were too young to be left on their own, especially in such a central street with so many cars passing by throughout the day..But they were scared and shocked when i saw them so i believe they probably panicked and run..

I wanted to share another reading i made yesterday, trying to make sense of their sudden appearence and disappearence. The question was not accurately phrased but it is my theory that the Yi knows what the real question is nomatter how i choose to phrase it. What i had in my mind was something like "why did it have to turn out this way?"

63.1.5>15

As i was reading through the lines it came to me that there's another cat in my life at the moment i haven't written here about. He's a beautiful white male, almost 7-8 months old, who was found by someone in my block. The couple who found him fed him and helped him survive and now he lives in the small garden in the central entrance of the building. He's still weak though and his eye is still healing..

Since Rosa died (which is exactly a week ago), i've been supporting him everyway i can. I brought down her food and water bowl and i give him her food i have left and i love to see him getting stronger..I did not mention this before, because it just came naturaly to me and didn't think i was doing anything special.
Line 63.5 immediately reminded me of him. May be this is my "small offer" right now and maybe this is what time asks of me. Supporting him might be exactly what i need to do at the moment, even if my ego needs to actually own a cat to fulfill it's personal, selfish needs..

Combining the above with 63.1, 15, and my previous reading, i thought that maybe this is what i actually have to offer, even if i think it is not enough. It certainly is more than enough to him and it is pure giving in accordance with the needs of the time...

I'd love to read your thoughts on this. Do you think i'm getting it right??

(Too bad we don't have a cat icon! ;))

:)

Yes I think you read it brilliantly. See how well the hex 15 sits with what you said underlined. Hex 15 is where you are coming from with this, where you are, simply doing what needs to be done. Interesting how 63.1 shows you being dragged back when trying to make progress...like first there was Rosa , then the kittens left as if in your efforts to care for a cat you were thwarted, held back. Hilary says in her commentary this is not a mistake this is how things are, bound to be unsettled at first.

perhaps this also explains your previous 63...you already kind of have a cat, and what you see as a 'small offering' really is enough now (63.5)

I think you did a great interpretation there :bows:
 

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