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I'm trying to reach a deal with my ex. Had a good long meeting and it seemed we had reached a solution. He asked for time to think before accepting. He was supposed to give n answer the day after, then asked for the next day, and now wants to meet again.
I asked the question e got 14.1 > 50.
What do you make of it?
The deal involves mainly money but has a lot of emotional issues attached.
 

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Here is what Hilary says about Line 1....
"You are involved in an ongoing act of creation, selecting the ingredients of Great
Possession. Whatever you introduce now, you will possess in great measure later on. So
pay careful attention to the contents of your thoughts and your relationships with others;
don’t engage or connect in any way with anything that would do harm."
 

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Hey
The Yi usually answers best when you ask about what you should do and not so much what are the motives of others so lets hope the Yi understood what you meant. If thats the case the above help seems to fit, does it make sense to you?

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I always dislike asking too many questions at a time. But maybe I should now. Because it seems n answer directed at me and not an answer about his motives...
 

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I asked "What is important for me to know about this meeting, so it goes well for me and the kids?"
Got 14 unchanged...
"You get a rich harvest, as that is what 14 is. However, 14 also demands that one doesn't be overbearing. To receive and maintain a rich harvest means that you must be prudent and cautious. Otherwise, you will deplete your harvest. "
Apparently he is going to ask for more money and the Yi advises me to not give it...
 

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The code of Hex 14.1 says "there is no conflict of interest, so there is no trouble." The hex code of Hex 50 says "You will have great luck. Everything will be prosperous."
 

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Hi

Yes it appears that Yi did address the real question, as 14 has popped up again, I can find some more info on hex 14 but yes its fortunate.

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I just read some more on 14.1 and in short just be careful in your choices, as you will need to stick to this agreement.

Hexagram 14

Wu: As the sun shines brightly high in the sky, both the good and the bad will be exposed. The responsibility of the jun zi is to discriminate between them. He acts in accordance with the nature of goodness (the will of heaven) to enrich his life.
 

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I didn't understand what he wants. Besides what he said, i didn't understand... there is something more...
 

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What should I do now about A and the deal?
26.1.6 > 46
 

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Use what has now been accumulated to take the next step on the path to growth
 

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Is there any indication on WHEN?
I understood i should stop and then proceed and not answer in an impulse. Am I right?
Is there any indication on how "stern" or "compliant" I should be?
Thanks in advance for the help.
 

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Is there any indication on WHEN?
I understood i should stop and then proceed and not answer in an impulse. Am I right?
Is there any indication on how "stern" or "compliant" I should be?
Thanks in advance for the help.

The original question...why does he want to meet again ? well what others said not a great question to find an answer you want to understand...in fact what you want to understand is basically how 'stern or compliant to ne' so why not actually ask that ?

Not sure what you mean in regards to 'when'....when what ? But no I don't read timescale into Yi's answers except by the question.

You then asked what to do about A and the deal...well it looks like the deal is ready to be done..26 Great Taming of resources, that sounds like a meeting about resources where the next step is ready to be taken.

So whatever stage you have already reached with this you are now ready to go to the next level of the agreement.

14.1 indicates there's prosperity here for both of you as long as you can keep out any resentments or any feelings that would cause harm which would affect the deal I guess.

So in order to move forward and get the deal finalised I guess you need to speak to him again. Maybe he needs a bit more discussion about it. Well I don't know why I say 'maybe' as that is what he has told you.

But if you need to know how your stance should be towards him at the meeting then ask Yi that
 

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Thanks trojina.
Writing, specially in english, not my mother tongue, makes it harder to explain.
We had a meeting on Friday and that was the meeting of the first question.
He made an absurd turn on what was talked previously and i was a bit taken aback. So I asked the "what to do now".
I decided to let the weekend go by and made a final suggestion for a deal with no further hypothesis of discussion. Either he takes it or we go to court.
Now i am pretty nervous waiting.
Waiting for his answer.
 

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Somehow along this process my fear is gone.
We had a last talk, he took a last proposal for a deal. If he takes it, good. If he doesn't, good too.
Whatever happens it will be the best for us.
 
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What should I do now about A and the deal?
26.1.6 > 46
You have heaven below in representing you regarding a question about what to do. Heaven is about follow through but it it also about timing. In this case it says to me that what you are 'doing' in the sense of your intentions have power, but it is important to pay attention to the timing of things. Your inner nuclear trigrams suggest that easy exchange (lake) is constrained by the clinging attachments (fire).

Line 1 of heaven is a yang line, and I can see the dragon submerged and not acting. It is an action of staying submerged and choosing not to act until the timing is right. It is not time to do anything specifically about the meeting or furthering any contracts, etc. Though what you are doing, in the sense of your plans and intentions, have power.

The outer trigram of mountain reiterates this message of stillness. It can also indicate some stubborness in the outer situation. It is to stay aware of present conditions, but not to do anything other than meditate upon them. Mountain is resistance and can be an attribute of what you are dealing with in the outer situation. Meet it with quiet awareness. Your nuclear trigrams on the outside indicate that quick actions (thunder) are constrained by the timing of heaven.

The sixth line is the place of extreme. It can represent the sage or one who is outside the control of another. It is a yang line here when it should be yin. There is a powerful sense here being at the top of the mountain and outside the dictates of the king below (in line 5). It is also a place of consideration of the whole situation (represented by the hexagram ) and deciding what you will take with you on to the next phase.

All the best,
Maggie
 

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Deal after deal, nothing is solved yet.
He made a last deal that I find unacceptable.
What is the outcome if i accept the deal? 35.6 > 16
What is the outcome if I don't accept the deal? 51.1.4 > 2.
Gosh, am I right reading this as "you should accept it, it is better"?
 

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Pocossin wrote about 35.6 "Line 6 suggests you should assert your rights in dealing with others,"

Hillary wrote: Line 6 would be you aiming further ahead, with greater determination - not just asking 'how can I pay this month's bills?' but 'how can I finally get this whole thing sorted out?' It changes to 16, with its feelings of enthusiasm and energy and big-picture imaginings.
Imagine being the ram lowering his head and charging. Not exactly subtle or nuanced, but putting your whole bodyweight into one determined run at and through the problem. So stubbornness, yes, and not looking at your surroundings much, but also a momentum that gets you through obstacles when a gentler approach wouldn't do the job.
Permissible only for the purpose of' is Wilhelm's extrapolation, I believe. Brad has 'limit the practice to discipline of the home town' and I didn't think of translating 'wei' as 'limiting' and just said, 'holding fast, use this to subjugate the city.' Anyway, I think the idea of the city is to focus your efforts (horns focus energy to a point for maximum impact) and use this energy/ momentum/ opportunity/ inspiration to sort out one specific thing. Maybe something of your own, maybe something to do with how you run things.
Danger, good fortune, not a mistake' - it's risky, but it works, it's certainly not a bad idea ('conscious of' is more extrapolation). 'Constancy: shame'/ 'perseverance brings humiliation' - use this horns-first attitude just for the one specific thing, and not as a general approach.
 
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What is the outcome if i accept the deal? 35.6 > 16

I totally agree with your and Hilary's comments on 35.6, about it being a targeted application of force. However, notice that here it's this line only changing. You are eager to get everything solved soon, you want progress (35). But here the 6th line only is changing. If you accept, it will appear as if there's progress, but it will be an illusion (16).

What is the outcome if I don't accept the deal? 51.1.4 > 2

There will appear to be a shock, but it will prove to be nothing bad after all. I would personally go with this option. Hidden line is 16.4, which I also like.
 

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Hi

I see 35.6 as needing discipline within yourself like be strong dont weaken, so I have to say its doesnt look like a good line for accepting deals.
As you say though what he is offering isnt sitting right anyway

Option 2 is similar to that other reading you had, so it could maybe mean more of the same

Steve
 

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Thank you to both of you!
Diamanda, what is the hidden line?
I decided not to accept it. I kept with my previous offer. Good for him, Acceptable but not really that good for me. I WANT PEACE!!!!! I'm fed-up of all this situation.
 

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By the way, 51 is the same reading yes, but this time it has 2 changing lines so it seems to indicate some change...
 

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How about stop fighting then?

I know a lady who fighted and fighted for the child-support money. And while she won, later regretead, because all the trouble she and her son went tru. Just for money.
 

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Hey

Line 4 is desrcibing being bogged down, things being muddy, so my guess is like i thought more of the same, progress would be slow, maybe more negotiating

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I am not fighting. He is. I don't want to change anything. He wants.
How can we stop fighting when the other doesn't?
There is a maximum i can give. I have my dignity. I am ready to sign a deal which basically means he won't pay almost anything for the kids. For peace sake. Still he thinks it is not enough....
 

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Hey

Line 4 is desrcibing being bogged down, things being muddy, so my guess is like i thought more of the same, progress would be slow, maybe more negotiating

Steve
Actually the lines describe exactly how I FEEL. Before telling him i didn't accept i was very tense, then i was relived - line 1. Afterwards all was muddy. No answer from him. Everything muddy... - line 4.
 

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update:
1st: I have to THANK YOU ALL because our discussions here were SO important to me! they helped me, together with the Yi readings, to keep my head together and don't freak out.
2nd: In the end of April, after so many months, we finally signed the deal. The deal was not this last one but the previous one.
Now we have a window of peace until September 2018, with no money transactions between us.
Was it the beast of deals? no. But it was an acceptable one. I feel content and above all we have peace. And that has a price too.

I hope this helps if anybody has the same readings. I make it a point to give feed-back on my readings because I know it heelps others. I'm not very good at helping with readings but I hope to help this way.
any questions, tell me. I'll be glad to answer.
 

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