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hannag

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Hi!
I asked about the future and possibilities for myself and a man I feel very strongly about.
The problem is that we both are married..

The first time I asked I got 2.4 on how to handle the situation.

Now on our possibilities 14.1

I would really appreciate some advice.

Hanna
 

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In a version I use translated by John Blofeld, he says of 2.4 "No blame, no praise....This passage has the underlying meaning of 'be extremely watchful'. The passage means that with proper caution we shall escape trouble." That is how to handle it - with caution. Don't expect some big outcome here where the two of you ride off into the sunset.

You are receptive to his enthusiasm (or your own enthusiasm for this man), but that may be all that it is. Because your possibilities are not so good. Possession in great measure turning into the cauldron is usually a sacrifice of the possession of great measure (this man). You will probably end up without him. This may take a short while or a long time, but with both of you married, is that really a surprise? A lot of breaking up would have to happen and when that happens, people tend to do some serious thinking about whether this other person is truly worth all the pain it will cause. One or the other of you might decide that it isn't worth it. What will happen if you break up your marriage or destroy the trust your husband has in you and then this man decides to stay with his wife? Unless you already are planning to leave your husband, I'd say that is a big risk to take. And if you are planning to leave, why don't you just leave and then see what happens with this man?

You can probably throw another thousand hexes and get all the answers other people on this site get for their similar circumstances, but I have also gone through this scenario and the man involved was not married. Even with only my marriage to contend with, it was too much. I was the one who gave up all contact to stay with my husband. I'd say with this throw, you had better not get your hopes up.

I hate to be pessimistic, but 14 - 50 always turns out this way for me.
 

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14-50
as dance

the gloriousness is so great that the super fine chick would basically die for it
 

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hex 2 line 4
hex 14 line 1
I see this as avoiding something that could bring you injury.The hexigrams are positive on there own.hex 2 moving line 4 is one of avoidance;not giving anything away.
hex 14 line 1 is staying out of harms way.
The situation could change over a period of time,but as of now the reading suggests remaining where you are.
I think hex 50 and hex 16 are sort of relating to time. cooking anything requires proper timing and hex 16 seems to deal with movement at the right time.
 

hannag

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Thank you all very much for the advice.

I have for a long time wanted to divorce my husband. It has just never seemed to be the right time etc. Being with this man has made me realise that it has to be now. Not to persue this new man, he has his own family, but because I just can't stay with my husband anymore. Being unfaithful made that very clear to me. It's not sth. I want to repeat or have done against myself. But it has certainly been a wakeup-call!

I am crazy about this man I have met, and it's very difficult not to seek him up again. But I have been warned to be very careful and I guess that's what I'll have to be.

I didn't really understand your comment Megabbobby so if you could explain it further?

What a great site this is! How lucky to find ppl. like all of you!

Hanna
 

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I've just been to several threads looking at 14.1 and decided to post to this one because Pam, who posted above, is one who learns from her experiences with the Yi.

Our company is growing by leaps and bounds, and the opportunities for growth are popping up all over the place. There's an opening coming up soon for which I am well qualified. The VP hinted to me today that I should consider it. It's a promotion, but... and there are a lot of "but" factors to consider.

So I came back from the meeting and asked the Yi. They answered 14.1 to 50. I really felt like the Yi wasn't offering any support at all but throwing it back on me instead. Then I went searching through the forum's hexagram index for people's experience with 14.1. I learned a lot. And I decided not to compete for this particular job after all.

Love,

Val
 
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That must have been a tough decision, Val. Too many "buts" can spoil the sauce, for sure.

14 still stumps me too, sometimes. When I was in severe physical despair with CHF, there was a key reading I did about it, and yup, 14.1 was there. There were other lines so it didn't change to 50. 14 continued to appear while in the midst of gaining control over the debilitating condition.

I think I understand a little better now. The potential to excel was there, even though there were a lot of "buts". And there definitely are.

?Buts? limit what you can do, but you can still excel. In either position.
 

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ummm, 14.1 > 50 Just a little positive I would say?
I would sure go for it, but to each her own. It seems that sometimes people split hairs when it comes to the yi responses and miss the forest for the trees.
 

cal val

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Hi Bruce...

Thanks for your input. It was really helpful... as you will see when you read on.

I THINK I know what you're talking about... the health problem you recently learned about? I hadn't seen the acronym for it before, but it certainly fits. I'm guessing what you received 14.1 in answer to was a possible treatment plan. If so, I'd say the Yi was saying the same to you that it was to me. Sort of shrugging their shoulders, saying "Neither here, nor there." It says 'nothing harmful', but then again it's not one of those lines that says 'furthering'. And there was MY clue. That's the case of this position opening up. Nothing harmful but nothing furthering either. I basically heard the Yi say... (Martin are you listening?... *grin*) 'pfffffft'. I thought about it after I left. And it didn't take long to figure out why the Yi shrugged their shoulders. I'm very happy with the Yi's answer... which to me was great input to help me make my decision.

As you probably already know, filmed entertainment is increasingly being turned into data. In fact, more and more films become data during the production process (as opposed to after). Most dailies now are scanned into a server, encoded and sent to the director, DP and editor through the internet. No more lab processing. No more delivery of film elements from lab to screening room. No more gathering in a screening room at 11am each morning. They can ftp them off the server and watch at their desks whenever they have the time. And then, of course, the film can be edited now straight from a data file. No more film elements. No more moviola.

This new position will be managing that data. There will be a lot of responsibility and more interaction with the creative and technical teams than I have now. It's a highly technical job... not creative... and the VP wants someone with computer savvy in it. I have that, and he and the management team rely on me considerably regarding computer issues for administrative needs. It's not my favorite aspect of my job, but I enjoy it because I get to be creative and/or resourceful, and I love problem solving.

That's just one reason I like my current position. Another is that my work is widely varied. I'm given many different kinds of projects, and I'm given the freedom to expand on them (or not) as I see necessary. I'm also encouraged to create my own projects. If I see a need to fill or a better solution, I'm encouraged to go for it. My job is all about the growth in the company really and it's all very nurturing to my own growth.

You used the word 'limiting'... yes the 'buts' are limiting and it's interesting that the biggest 'but' is about the limiting this new position will do. I will be limited to a focus on technical functions and organization. And I realized after just a little thought that I'm much better off staying in my current position and focusing it in the direction I REALLY want to go and... creating my own opening... *grin*

Love,

Val
 
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Val,

?Sort of shrugging their shoulders, saying "Neither here, nor there." It says 'nothing harmful'?

GAAA! Yes! I was saying ?what the hell do you mean, nothing harmful?? I can?t freakin breathe!!?

Doesn?t it just piss you off when Yi doesn?t take you seriously about some things that seem utterly desperate?
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If I recall, you?re a Joseph Campbell fan, too. His repeated message was ?follow your bliss?. It sounds like that?s what you?re doing. It sounds like you thought out the pros and cons, and decided on what?s best for you. Good on ya, matey!
 

cal val

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Hi Bruce...

Yes it DOES piss me off when the Yi doesn't take me seriously. And then I get pissed off all over again when I later realize why... they're always right.

Yes, I do like Joseph Campbell a lot. Yes, I suppose you could call me a fan. And yes, I guess I am following my bliss, now that you mention it. Furthermore, after this job, in four more years, when I've got 20 years in the Motion Picture Industry Pension Plan, I'm taking my little nest egg up to either San Luis Obispo or Paso Robles and buying myself a nice little retirement home. Blissssss *grin*

The interesting thing is, as you well know, I had made quite a mess of things and was struggling to survive when I first came to this forum... having just decided to surrender to whatever-you-wanna-call-it. And now, since I began to LISTEN to whatever-you-wanna-call-it through the Yi (and my dreams), I'm in a job I love... and a home I'm so comfy in... and near my family... and we're all loving each other more than ever... even my son-in-law hugs me... and and and... and it's all so very blissful! I keep thinking it can't get any better than this... and then it does.

Love,

Val
 

cal val

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Hi Bruce...

I'm back again. I'm particularly concerned about 14.1 as an answer to you regarding your health, since we're talking about a life-threatening condition here. I'm not nearly as concerned about it as an answer to a possible job change... pfffffft. So I did some research this morning and copied down some translations of the line in case they might give you any additional insight.

In his translation of the Mawangdui text, Shaughnessy reads 50.1 (the initial nine of Dayou) as:

<blockquote>There is no exchanging of harm that is not trouble;
if in difficulty then there will be no trouble.</blockquote>

In his translation of the Zhouyi, Richard Rutt says:

<blockquote>No crosswise movement
Disadvantage
NOT MISFORTUNE
in hardship, NO MISFORTUNE</blockquote>

He says crosswise probably referred to the flight of birds but may refer to other animals. This is observed as a source of omens worldwide. He also says jiao may be a short form for a homonym meaning wooden fetters or a cangue. Did it feel like your heart was being crushed by fetters?

Love,

Val
 
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Oh hell yeah. That describes the sensation very well. That or drowning, which is literally what was happening. Water retains and fills the lungs. Which also explains the 28.6 I received.

But it was as though all along there was this assurance that I would overcome, or at least well manage the condition. That's the hope 14 gave me.

The meds, combined with exercise, and encouragement from a loved one have all helped me to get on top of this thing, and I feel richer (14) as a result of all this. That's what Yi was telling me.

Thanks for your concern and for researching the info for me. There definitely was trouble, but no harm.
 
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Candid, not to split hairs , but didnt you get 14.6 >34 when you asked about your condition...I remember because I thought about that post for a long time, wondering how 14.6 could be meaningful for the question you asked.

damn, i shoulda been a librarian. details always stick in my mind.
 

cal val

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Bruce...

Good good good... that's what I saw the Yi saying too. Yeah there's trouble (it hurts like hell), but there won't be any permanent (or serious) damage.

Love,

Val
 
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Micheline, I received 14 in a number of readings about the condition. I keep nothing. Everything I write gets deleted. So I have no records of my readings, but you're probably right about 14.6.

If I did get 14.6, it was far more optimistic than I was able to comprehend; being in physical straights at the time. But again, someone kept encouraging me, educating me, loving me. Amazing thing, that. 14.6, for sure.

I think when you have it (14) you don't know it. And when you think you have it, you lost it. There?s no one magic place to be in to have it. No one meditation to tune it in. But you can summon it. Sometimes that takes a little help. Ya know.. someone to remind you of your value. Value, yes. That is 14.
 
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So, Hanna,

Now that we've hi-jacked your thread, what do you make of all this? If you're still here.
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I?m resurrecting this thread to add just a couple of thoughts I just had about 14.

14 as a state of grace.

14 as a likeness of the Holy Spirit.

14 as the light of heaven.

14 as the blessing birthed in tribulation.
 

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