14.1

[clarissa]

I've been thinking about 14.1 Here's my take on it..looking at Wilhelm's translation:

"Great Possession" is a combination of strength and clarity. 14.1 is saying that one's strength and clarity are still in an infant stage and have yet to be challenged. I understand this to mean that they haven't been presented with difficulties so there haven't been any opportunities to make mistakes...YET. The time of great possession is still new, untested. However, in order to KEEP it that way...one must be ever vigilant.

It seems to be a rather precarious time, no? The situation is new, the waters untested...and therefore, making a mistake is a very real possibility. In such a situation we should be very careful of our moves...so as to avoid difficulties.

Is that how you see it?

 

[yly2pg1]

Trust your inner voice.
It is a candle within ...

 

[clarissa]

In other words, you think it's about trusting one's intution? Why do you see it that way?

Btw, my inner voice appears to be starting to actually speak to me. In fact, it just happened last week. The phone rang and I quickly, but rather quietly, heard the word "Donna". I went to pick up the phone...and guess who I heard speaking?

Donna!

 

[yly2pg1]

You are obviously one with strong intuition.

This is what my inner voice tells me in a thread when i come across your post. Not many people is able to see and feel thing the way you do. You will sometimes notice people having difficulty to believe what you have gone through. It is no one faults. You are just unique yourself.

Knowing how to preserve, protect and grow the clarity within is perhaps a useful avenue for you.

 

[clarissa]

Thank you for understanding. I've actually contemplated the idea that I'm going crazy. However, I thought..well, if I THINK I'm going crazy, I'm probably not

I've noticed that this "gift" seems to be getting stronger. Whereas before it used to be mainly something I picked up while dreaming...it now happens while I'm awake. For example,

Sometimes I just blurt something out...and then it later happens. This happened a year or so prior to 9-11. I saw George Bush on TV (had NO opinion of him so it wasn't a commentary on him) and I suddenly blurted out, "After he gets elected something very bad will happen." I didn't think much of it and I forgot about it. However, when I saw what happened, I rememered what I had said immediately. It was just a thought that came and went in a flash.

I've also had another experience of hearing that "voice" speak to me....and about 30 seconds before that happened I had an experience with just..."knowing" something...which was VERY odd. It was like I just took a breath...and the information was deposited into me. That had never happened before

The interesting thing about this experience is that I promptly forgot about the voice...but kept the impression. In other words, I couldn't understand why I had this feeling that this certain thing would happen. Finally, a few months later, I remember the voice...which had told me that.

I also have this sneaking hunch that I am able to pick up on the emotions of other people...even at a distance. I don't think I can send, but I do believe that I might be receiving.

 

[clarissa]

Btw, how DOES one grow this ability?

 

[cal val]

Clarissa...

"I also have this sneaking hunch that I am able to pick up on the emotions of other people...even at a distance."

I don't have a hunch... I know I do... when the emotions are focused on me. It's nice when the emotion is positive like love, but it can be quite painful when the feelings are fear or anger.

About a half hour before my last love decided to break it off, I had what I call my 'stranger feeling'... a name I gave it when I was a child because I felt like a stranger was inside me. I thought it was probably coming from my daughter... and I wanted him to pull off the road so I could use a phone to call her and see what was going on, but I didn't want him to know what was happening to me (people just don't understand), so I decided to wait until we got to civilization and a phone again. Finally he did pull off the road at a scenic site... Roman ruins... and told me that it was over. I knew then that the feelings had come from him and not my daughter and that she was alright. But it was the longest half hour of 'UUGGGHHHH" until then because he was feeling just terrible.

Love,

Val

 

[clarissa]

Hi Val...

Yeah, I've experienced that...and like you, I often wonder where it's coming from. Sometimes I attempt to narrow it down by asking the people around me if they're, for example, upset about something (if the feeling is negative). SOMETIMES, I think the feelings are coming from someone who is NOT nearby.

I know what you mean about the longest half hour of UGH

Sometimes the energy is so thick that you could cut it with a knife. It can really drive me crazy.

 

[hilary]

It is such a relief to hear that other people who are a lot more familiar with empathy than I am can also have trouble knowing where the emotions are coming from. I'm still at the stage where I can only tell they're not mine by being rational: I was perfectly happy 5 minutes ago so I'm not likely to be desperately angst-ridden now, so probably this is not my angst - for instance. And this will be confirmed later on.

I only seem to have an 'open receiver' for people I'm close to. If I once get to grips with it - and maybe even learn to transmit as well as receive - it'll be a real gift. (Instead of being simply incapacitating. As you say - ugh.)

 

[hilary]

Oh, about 14,1...

I think this is the beginning of great possession, and great possession is a synergistic creation. Whatever you join with and put into the Vessel here will be part of the transformations to come and will be multiplied exponentially. Keep the harmful things out of the pot, though, and nothing can go wrong. So the hardship and challenges that follow are not a mistake, either.

 

[Grandma]

You guys who are receiving these outside emotions should learn to close your chakras at certain times becasue it gets to be too much emotionally for the receiver. I think if you just type something like that into google you woll find some advice about it.

 

[jte]

"Thank you for understanding. I've actually contemplated the idea that I'm going crazy. However, I thought..well, if I THINK I'm going crazy, I'm probably not ..."

Do take things slow though, ok? People can and do go crazy ya know...

Too much of a good thing is, well, too much...

It's possible to overuse the Yi, become overloaded, have breakdowns, etc...

MHO

- Jeff

 

[clarissa]

Jeff said:
"It's possible to overuse the Yi, become overloaded, have breakdowns, etc..."

Oh well...I was talking about my psychic experiences, not my experience with the Yi.

 

[clarissa]

Regarding closing chakras...or chakras in general...

I know very little about this subject. However, often, but not always, when I get these odd feelings....I feel like I have a lump in my throat. This can happen when the feeling is bad OR good. It feels very similar to the lump in the throat someone might have who is sad....except that sometimes I don't feel sad, I feel very happy for no reason. However, the lump is there and I feel all...choked up. I'm going to make a guess that it's my throat chakra that's causing it. Sometimes I feel something in the center of my chest...but most of the time it's the throat.

 

[clarissa]

Hilary,

I always check the people around me first. I ask them how they are feeling, if something is wrong etc. However, if they're not the source...then I have to consider the fact that it's someone not present...and in these cases it's sometimes difficult to confirm anything.

 

[yly2pg1]

Btw, how DOES one grow this ability? (inner clarity)

The point i try to put forward is keeping our inner mind calm and steady. Protect it as if it is a jewel within.

Your psychic experiences are talesigns of untapped resources within. It is powerful but it is NOT TAMED! Sometimes a powerful untrained mind is only few steps from craziness.

What Susan points out here may be a good tip for further spiritual journey ... ?

 

[clarissa]

Y:
Your psychic experiences are talesigns of untapped resources within. It is powerful but it is NOT TAMED! Sometimes a powerful untrained mind is only few steps from craziness.

Clarissa:
I'll keep that in mind

 

[jte]

"I was talking about my psychic experiences, not my experience with the Yi."

Fair enough - for some here the two go hand in hand, but I guess I was on the wrong track. Not sure if what I suggested still applies.

Take care,

Jeff

 

[dharma]

Working with the chakras is an excellent suggestion, Susan.

As I understand them, these are the areas where our energy is processed. Should blockages occur, the whole organism is affected. One therefore needs to clear any obstructions that keep the life force from flowing smoothly through the system.

I periodically check my own 7 primary chakras using either Tarot or I Ching to determine the condition of each one. Though I've pretty much worked with all the chakras at some time or other, and some more often than others, the ones I've not really had much trouble with are the top two. For instance, I've rarely had issues with my connection to the divine that would shut it down or block it in any significant way.

That might sound great, especially for divination stuff, however, having the top two chakras open while the lower ones are blocked or sluggish from time to time, can produce the ungrounded feeling of 'crazy'. The feeling is one of being overwhelmed by too many psychic impressions (positive and negative) coming in all at the same time from many different sources (as some of you here have described already) without the security of being anchored properly to this dimension.

I believe we tune-in to the common collective frequency through the chakras. They are like radio dials that keep us set to this particular frequency. And those who might hear disembodied voices and experience dimensions other than this one for instance (esp. in an uncontrolled manner) are experiencing energetic imbalances that need adjustment at the chakra level.

But just because we don't hear voices or experience other dimensions, doesn't mean that everything is hunky-dory. For example, material insecurities indicate that the lower chakras are indeed affected. I recommend learning about chakras to begin with - where their approximate location is in the system, and what each chakra's function is. Afterward, using some form of divination, you can see what condition each one is in and begin working more actively with them.

 

[clarissa]

Hi Jeff,

No, all of this stuff I'm writing about happened before I ever starting consulting the Yi.

 

[jerryd]

The true charasmatic soul miss used is the greatest danger for any of us who feel we possess the ability to feel anothers pain or associated emotions. I often do and will often isolate from all external contact till I can be sure of these feelings and their source. Always being cautious of how I respond and who I am responding to. You actually have a duty of care not to abuse this to your advantage.

Jeff, it is true you can over use any insterment or tool avilable, animal, vegestable or mineral.
Just a matter of degrees is it not? Tolerance or intolerance can lead to abuse.

 

[cal val]

Hiya Jeff...

There is a cart and horse situation when talking about intuition and the YiJing. I know exactly what Clarissa is saying. The strong psychic experiences were happening to me way before I started using the YiJing. I can use the horse without the cart, and the horse is actually more fleet of foot when not pulling the cart. I can use the cart without the horse as well, but using the horse to pull the cart is much more effective.

To the 'Closing the chakra' advocates...

I'm personally using 'closing the chakras' metaphorically here. I wish you would think about what you're saying. Would you advocate closing down the internet because hackers can get into others' computer systems and networks through it? Same thing.

My intuition developed in my childhood as a survival tool... to keep me alive in a dangerous situation, and it continues to function as a survival tool. Gavin DeBecker wrote a very important book about using intuition for protection and survival entitled, "The Gift of Fear". Just because I can feel other people's feelings toward me, I am not about to try to shut it down. And that's what 'closing chakras' would entail... shutting down my intution.

Furthermore, I don't believe it's possible to shut it down. That's why I said try. I have very good reason to believe it's a 'sent' gift over which I have no control.

Love,

Val

 

[dharma]

Looking back now I see that Susan said to "close" the chakra but I thought she had said to "work" with them.

Closing them is not the idea I was trying to get across. Rather, to recognize that our emotional living tends to accumulate at these sites so that they become either too slow or obstructed. We need to learn to clear them out so that energy is moving in and out of them unhindered.

 

[clarissa]

Hi Val,

Yeah, I don't I'd want to shut down my intution either. I wouldn't mind knowing how to turn it off...temporarily...but it's certainly not something that I would EVER want to permanently shut down.

Regarding that one incident that was so odd...

Why all pistons suddenly started firing is beyond me. Perhaps it was something SO important that my gift rose to meet it. That's what I think. My friend tells me that I was literally shaking..and she herself lost all color

It didn't scare me...but it did WOW me..that's for sure.

Oh, and the DeBecker book is fantastic. I read that several years ago after picking it up in an airport giftshop.

 

[cal val]

Good morning Demitra...

I saw that you used work and I thought you were suggesting balancing rather than closing. Balancing is good... *grin* Didn't realize you didn't see she'd said closed.

I'm not speaking for Clarissa here, of course, about her feeling like she might be going crazy, but, after I learned that hearing voices in your head is a sign of mental illness, I sure wondered myself. The thing that appears to be true for her as well is that my experiences have been clairaudient (rather than auditory hallucinations telling me to kill my neighbors) and, in at least one case, precognitive. When I was three months pregnant with my daughter... in the privacy and quiet of my own bedroom as I was getting into bed... I heard a little girl about three years old say Daddy. I turned to my husband and said, "We're having a girl. I just heard her say Daddy." Both of us knew at that moment without a shadow of a doubt that we were having a girl and planned accordingly.

Love,

Val

 

[dharma]

<blockquote>When I was three months pregnant with my daughter... in the privacy and quiet of my own bedroom as I was getting into bed... I heard a little girl about three years old say Daddy. I turned to my husband and said, "We're having a girl. I just heard her say Daddy." Both of us knew at that moment without a shadow of a doubt that we were having a girl and planned accordingly.</blockquote>

Hiya Val..

Mine came through in a very clear dream -when I was about three months pregnant too- I was playing in a sandbox with a little boy with longish jet black hair.

Funny thing is that when my son was born till he was an adolecent he had very blond hair to go with his hazel eyes, afterwhich his hair turned jet black (incidently growing it out long during that time period as well.) BTW, the eyes remained hazel and now stand out very attractively (if I must say so myself) against the dark hair.

 

[cal val]

Clarissa...

"Why all pistons suddenly started firing is beyond me. Perhaps it was something SO important that my gift rose to meet it. That's what I think."

That's what I think too. And that's what I've thought since you first posted. This event in your life is SO important it's like they're taking hold of your head and turning your eyes toward it and making you look.

My gift seems to 'get busy' when it's important for me to understand. When I was having the dreams featuring the men in grey and the lessons they were teaching me, they would end by saying, "It's important for you to understand this."

I don't want to know the future until I get there, so when I have precognitive experiences and clairaudience, I know it's because it's important for me to know at that moment. I don't go to psychics... they come to me. When the psychic picked up on my travel 'vibe' and approached me five years ago, I knew she was 'sent' because it was important for me to know... at that moment. And, once she started saying what she said to me, I knew the party psychic at our Open House was in the right place at the right time for a reason. I needed to know in that moment.

Love ya,

Val

 

[cal val]

Hi again Demitra...

Yup... and your son sounds gorgeous. Black hair and light eyes... lethal combination... *grin*

Love ya,

Val

 

[clarissa]

Hi Val,

"That's what I think too. And that's what I've thought since you first posted. This event in your life is SO important it's like they're taking hold of your head and turning your eyes toward it and making you look."

It sure looked and felt that way. My first wake-up call was ignored because someone convinced me that what had indeed happened...hadn't happened. My second wake-up call came a few days later and was the verification that *I* had been correct. Boy, the way that verification came was weird too

That got my attention...but I guess I was still wavering. I was honestly confused. My third wake-up call involved a dream a few days after that where this person was standing over me and saying, in a slightly annoyed manner, "All of time time I've been here and you haven't even noticed me?" The dream did it..and pretty much explicitly spelled it out since it used the word "notice". I asked, "OK, why am I supposed to notice this person? Why is he SO important? Why is he SO important that he involved an odd precognition more than a year in advance, a "knowing", and an episode of clairaudience? The last two happened within 30 seconds of each other! I honestly almost dropped to my knees. It took me a few minutes to collect myself.

"My gift seems to 'get busy' when it's important for me to understand."

I guess that's what it's there for, no? I mean, I look at it as someone/thing that is looking after my best interests. So, I guess dire times call for drastic measures. Honestly, when I think about it...I don't think my reaction to all of this would have been the same had those strange things NOT happened. I think they were there to shock me, to stir me up a bit...to alert me to the fact that this was something very important, something that I shouldn't forget.

"I don't want to know the future until I get there, so when I have precognitive experiences and clairaudience, I know it's because it's important for me to know at that moment."

Well, this particular clairaudient experience was telling me something very general about the future...but not giving any real details. I think it was a don't-give-up-yet message.