14.2 .. please be so kind and help .. I do not understand this answer

[nykkic]

Hello everyone ..

today I asked the Ching a question that is in my mind so very much but I do not understand the answer/advice the Ching gave me...


my question was '' Why did I never find any financial success in my life so far ??''

(esp. since a clearvoyant told me in the 2nd half of my life I will find financial success..and everything else she had said back then came true)

so anyway: .. the answer the Ching gave me was 14.2 --> 30

..and I have NO idea what this answer means

so please please help me here !!

love and light to everyone

NykkiC

 

[rosada]

14.2
A big wagon for loading.
One may undertake something.
No blame.
-Wilhelm

This line indicates that undertakings are favored. This suggests to me that money is there for you to do things but doesn't indicate you will accumulate any money doing them, more like accumulating meaningful experience, "heavenly treasure".

(Odd thought - perhaps you should invest in something other people could use - like a Big Wagon, a piece of equipment you could rent out.)

As your question is "Why haven't I experienced $$$ success so far?" I think you are being encouraged to launch launch projects and not be stressed as to whether they make a lot of money ("No blame" what ever the result is), but to see if you had fun doing it, and perhaps also what sort of people you connect with -30. - while you are in this mode. Do what you love and the money will follow!

Rosada

 

[RindaR]

Another possible interpretation of "a big wagon for loading" might be for you to provide something that will facilitate the need others might have for "transporting" something- could be information, insight, something physical, or some kind of service that brings a flow of (whatever) between people/companies/groups... It might also be something in the creative arts that carries meaning to others. What are your gifts? your resources?

line 2 may be saying you have the capacity, you just need to find the direction to go with it.

 

[sooo]

I see the wagon as the means. It's quite rare for money to just come to us. Even a large inheritance or winning the lottery is a means of acquiring wealth.

30 presents fire perpetuating only with a continual source of fuel, just as an organic body relies on a continual source of food which fuels our fire. This too points to a means to acquire light and life.

One other consideration I should mention. Though you may interpret wealth in terms of money, the Yi may be considering your wealth as something you already possess. You just need to mobilize it, put it to work in the right vocation or investment. I think this is along the lines of what Rinda wrote.

 

[nykkic]

oh wow thank you so much everyone ... your answers make perfect sense... and YES I am an artist.. I am a film actress .. been in over 50 movies in USA and europe so far but still struggling financially although I even played bigger roles

 

[sooo]

In that case maybe what you need is a better business manager. Teasing... sorta.

Or, a steady gig. During my entertainment years, I played every famous showcase club in NYC regularly. The exposure was great, the money was the pits. But it was a steady solo gig at a nice nearby pub & restaurant (What Ales You) that paid the rent. It was also there that an offer to move my family west (big cart for moving?) was given. Have you worked in TV or theater? Consider where you invest your riches, and what the return on your investment is. Also why I questioned your business management. Generally speaking, artists are terrible at managing their own careers.

 

[Liselle]

A couple examples of 14.2 in my readings...the situations are different from yours, so I don't know what help they will be, but the examples are at least resolved and fairly clear-cut:

(1) - Someone at my job made an error in our schedules. The error benefitted me at the small expense of the person who made the error, and I wondered what, if anything, I should do about it, sort of from an ethical perspective.

Yi gave me 14.2 > 30, and I took it to mean that I should just let the error stand, and not bring it to the other person's attention. To me, the error was a "wagon for loading" - it actually helped me quite a bit - and Yi was saying that it was okay to let it be that. (I think there's a strong likelihood that the other person wouldn't have cared - it was a quite small cost to him - and so if I had said something I would have harmed myself for no particularly good reason.)

(2) - I'd composed an email to someone about an ongoing problem. There was no resolution in sight for the actual problem - really, no progress was being made at all - and yet I was required to communicate regularly about it - ugh. I asked Yi about the email draft, and got 14.2 > 30. I thought this meant that the email would be a usable conveyance - it would fulfill the requirement to update the person - and that was all it needed to be. And, in fact, that's how it turned out. The recipient accepted these empty updates without much comment. (The problem was eventually fixed, quite a long while later.)

 

[diamanda]

The i ching seems to me to be answering that the reason you haven't achieved financial success so far is because of moving/travelling.

 

[rosada]

It occurs to me that a play or movie is sometimes referred to as a "vehicle" . So perhaps the I Ching is saying you need to be in a major movie, a Big Vehicle to move your success forward. "No blame" makes me think that this ideal vehicle hasn't arrived yet and so "no blame" that you aren't $$$ secure - you haven't missed it, your ship has yet to come in!

Maybe you would get value from asking the I Ching other questions such as, "What am I doing now that is leading to greater success?"

rosada

 

[Liselle]

It occurs to me that a play or movie is sometimes referred to as a "vehicle" .
[...]
Maybe you would get value from asking the I Ching other questions such as, "What am I doing now that is leading to greater success?"

Maybe you're still loading the wagon (as Rosada said in her first post, "accumulating meaningful experience.")

 

[Trojina]

.. I am a film actress .. been in over 50 movies in USA and europe so far but still struggling financially although I even played bigger roles

you'd think that would be enough experience. 50 films ? In America and Europe ? what sorta films ? Even bigger roles than what ?


You aren't Angelina Jolie are you ? Nah, can't be I don't think she's made 50 films. Nicole Kidman ? Nah I don't think she's made 50 films either. Besides they are both rich. 50 films is a lot of films. In Europe too ? Main steam films ? Artsy films ? Are you an extra or have you had roles ?

No need to answer if you don't want to I'm just curious. If you have had a role in that many films I'm bound to have seen you in one of them. Or maybe you mean other kinds of films...documentaries, promotional or something ?

I mean even Marilyn Monroe wasn't in 50 films was she ?

Anyway 50 films might suggest you are selling yourself too cheaply and spreading yourself too thinly....50 films ??

Dunno how that relates to 14.2 apart from what others said. Maybe you should pick up your bags and move on out of exploitation now ?

 

[Liselle]

you'd think that would be enough experience. 50 films ?

Good point. 14.2, what are you trying to sayyyyy? lol

 

[rosada]

When we lived near Hollywood my daughter signed up with a company that provided extras for crowd scenes. The work was not stressful, she got paid minimum wage, there were interesting people to talk to and of course thee was always the possibility you might be "discovered" or at least be given a line to say which would suddenly boost you from being an extra to the next level up ("featured player" or something? I don't know) which if you're working for a union production company would mean you'd get more pay. Anyway, in less than a month she had been in three movies so I can see how even with only a walk on part it might not be difficult to get work on 50 different projects over a year or two.
Anyway, as your question was why haven't you experienced the success you're anticipating I think the I Ching is describing your current situation - accumulating spiritual experiences but not much else! Also as hexagram 30 can describe individuals who are equals perhaps you are dimming your chances by hanging around with a lot of other actors who are hoping for bigger careers - but no real movers and shakers in the room. It's not what you know but who you know and you're in with a sort of "every man for himself crowd."
So I agree with trogina on this - you've accumulated enough experience. Now what to do?

p.s. How about creating a product and putting your face on the label?

 

[Liselle]

Also as hexagram 30 can describe individuals who are equals

That's a new-to-me concept . Would you mind expounding on that a little bit, Rosada? Is it the Oracle section, or one or more lines? A particular author?

 

[rosada]

Hexagram 30 is made up of two fire trigrams. Fire above and fire below, the lower earthly man and the upper heavenly man. Ideally the lower man recognizes a good life depends on furthering the ways of the higher self, just as fire must have fuel to which it clings or it would burn itself out. In an ordinary reading these two fire trigrams can be seen as two individuals who may or may not work together.

 

[Liselle]

Is that concept of higher self and lower self true with all the doubled-trigram hexagrams?

 

[rosada]

With all the hexagrams the bottom trigram is more about the earthly sphere and the upper trigram is about the heavenly sphere. But that's a very general statement. You can kinda get the idea when you consider hexagram 7.The Army. The strong yang line is in the middle of the lower trigram emphasizing that in this situation the strength is with the sergeant who is on the ground with the troops rather than with the higher authority, the general, represented by the fifth line, who is far away at headquarters, like a higher authority in heaven. But these questions are better posted over in the Exploring Divination area where more advanced students than I will be able to give you clearer answers.

 

[Trojina]

That's a new-to-me concept . Would you mind expounding on that a little bit, Rosada? Is it the Oracle section, or one or more lines? A particular author?

Lisa have a look at the 30 Un changing thread. Rosa da explains her ideas there well there too