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moonrise

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Hi, everyone,

I asked you already about this older guy with whom I had a conflict. I told him how I feel and he, well, in short, told me to leave him alone.

I asked Yi Jing: what to do about him?

I got 16.2.6 ->64

I think the second line is saying that I should remain unyielding, I mean, true to myself inspite of everything.
And the sixth is warning me not to be too confident - because I was beginning to fall into the same trap again, I wanted to share with him how I feel...I am so naive! I am foolishly confident as this line says.

Then I asked if our relationship can be reestablished.
I got, well, I guess a very straightforward answer, hex 54.2.4.6 ->27

It is all true, I still love him although he doesn't care, I will not abandon my integrity and if there is anything between us again, it will be mere formality, with no real essence.

That is a dissapointment, I must admit, I really thought I could connect with him on a deeper level. Unfortunately he didn't share that with me. I was over confident, almost foolish, not seeing things as they are.

Any insights? I would be grateful.
 
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What is it lately with young chicks and old guys? Father figure maybe? dunno.

I think you have the gist of the readings, Moonrise. Only I wouldn?t say it?s your confidence that could use a reality check, but your enthusiasm toward influences that you look up to. Not that it?s wrong or bad to admire someone, or even to wish to follow their guidance, but it?s well to remember that they?re a quirky and flawed human being, just like yourself. If you are to be ?firm as a rock?, it must be upon your own earth foundation (first, before completion).

Btw, there's a fair chance this older guy will notice that shift, and feel more free to expresses himself with you.
 

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What to do ? If someone requests you leave them alone that is what you must do, otherwise you cross the boundary over into harrassment and end up with an empty basket, 54,6.
 

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Thank you Bruce,
I know I have a little forgotten about myself here. I am well too easy swayed and influenced.

Well, Void, I am aware of that and nobody said I will not leave the guy alone. But things are not so easy, inspite of mistakes he might have done, I still feel I lost a very valuable friend and my question "what to do" was not refering to me "harassing" him again but of what inner approach towards him to take, what to think about the whole situation. And I think I got the answer I needed.

Thank you for your answers!
 
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Hi Moonrise:

I'll give an attempt based on reviewing some interpretations.

16.2.6
It speaks to a readiness to withdraw, to make a change and to proceed.

It talks about being deluded by enthusiasm.
"If delusion has run its course and he is still apable of changing he is freed of error...a sobering awakening from false enthusiasm is quite possible and very favorable".

64
Based on the interpretation, it speaks of a "difficult time when transition from disorder to order is not yet completed".

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IMHO - it seems that you are aware of your "deluded enthusiasm" about this man - that you can change and need to proceed with this change and it will be favorable.

However, it is a time of disorder/chaos and the order is not apparent/complete yet.

Good luck.
Rosalie
 

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Hi, rosalie,

thank you for your input.

Yes, things are not in order yet...we will meet in a couple of months and then we'll see how it goes.

He did say that he is still my friend.

Thank you,
best wishes,
moonrise
 

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