19.4.5 >58 about a relationship

[maremaria]

Hi everybody,
this is about a person I meet lately. I asked "what should I know about that relationship"
and I got 19.4.5 > 58.
This is not a romantic relationship but I feel that I am very biased to inteprent this reading. Is is not that i do not trust that person. It has to do with me and my fears. When I meet somebody that i think is a very special person I do everything I can to ruin that relation. (defence mechanisms)
I think that is says something very good about a very special connection, but I would like to hear your insigths too.

maria

 

[Tohpol]

Hi everybody,
this is about a person I meet lately. I asked "what should I know about that relationship"
and I got 19.4.5 > 58.
This is not a romantic relationship but I feel that I am very biased to inteprent this reading. Is is not that i do not trust that person. It has to do with me and my fears. When I meet somebody that i think is a very special person I do everything I can to ruin that relation. (defence mechanisms)
I think that is says something very good about a very special connection, but I would like to hear your insigths too.
maria

19 suggests that it's ok, you can approach and be approached towards a fruitful exchange. Not sure there's much to worry about here. IC seems to say that you can go ahead and share some friendship! So, let your own specialness shine.

Topal

 

[willowfox]

Give this person a chance to prove himself to you, do not interfere with him unnecessarily, so let him be, and he will show his worth. Doing this will then lead to joy and sharing.

 

[maremaria]

19 suggests that it's ok, you can approach and be approached towards a fruitful exchange. Not sure there's much to worry about here. IC seems to say that you can go ahead and share some friendship! So, let your own specialness shine.

Topal

I worry about my behaviour.
Thanks for your help topal

maria

 

[maremaria]

Give this person a chance to prove himself to you, do not interfere with him unnecessarily, so let him be, and he will show his worth. Doing this will then lead to joy and sharing.

I don't expect to prove me something. what i am looking here is that ok there is something good here but try to avoid this x behaviour because you are going to ruin it"
do you see something like that ?

maria

 

[Tohpol]

I worry about my behaviour.
maria

I know, that's what I was referring to. The only way you're going to find out if you can change certain aspects of your behaviour is to place yourself in those situations which address those issues. Or, you can spend a life avoiding everyone!

You'll only "ruin it" if you are determined to do so. Battling demons is tough one but well worth it. You can do it. Try it and see. Perhaps don't place so much importance on what others think or how you view yourself. There are no guarantees in life but sometimes we just have to go into the unknown.

Topal

 

[bruce_g]

Hi Maria,

One aspect of 19 is overseeing in a generous and guiding way. Given the nature of your question and concern, I'd take this to mean overseeing the way in which you approach this meeting and this individual - in a generous and guiding way. Though your question is about your responses or reactions, it is still important to consider this other person, also in a generous and open way, if you would like an open exchange with him (if it's a him).

You already know the result of being defensive and self-sabotaging. So be open and relaxed, and allow him to be the same way. This is what I get from your change lines. And, take the leadership of yourself but don't try to determine the outcome right away. Two people should do that together - that's only fair, to him and to yourself.

(and keep a watchful eye on your inner critic...)

 

[maremaria]

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You'll only "ruin it" if you are determined to do so.
Topal

I am very good at doing that !!!

Thanks for refreshing my memory. All those you said me ,reminded me a corvesation I had with a friend of mine. I was telling her the same things you told me here.
I was thinking that sometimes when we are giving advise to others it migth be useful to record them .It migth be fanny to hear myself speaking about a situation now that I claim I don’t know what to do , don’t know what to say.

Sometimes the IC seems to me like a magic book but sometimes a thougth it as a wise person I turn to for help but the only thing he tell me is “dig” And I start digging and some friends come to help me but I don’t know what I am looking for and then comes a moment when a find a box full of treasures In the backyard of my home .That is magic !

Thanks topal. I'm going to keep all those you told me. There are very to the point !!!

 

[maremaria]

Hi bruce,
For a reason that is not very clear to me I can’t understand what do you mean by saying

Though your question is about your responses or reactions, it is still important to consider this other person, also in a generous and open way, if you would like an open exchange with him (if it's a him).

I
ts once of this times tham my IQ is 0 .
Can you explain it for me please.


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(and keep a watchful eye on your inner critic...)[/QUOTE]

she is here . I need to go back to 38 and 6 and think it again.

 

[bruce_g]

Hi Maria,

Your earlier response to Topal was "I worry about my behavior." I was just pointing out that, even though it is your behavior you asked about, it's still important to consider this other person in a 19 way, if you desire an open exchange (58) with him.

 

[maremaria]

Hi Maria,

Your earlier response to Topal was "I worry about my behavior." I was just pointing out that, even though it is your behavior you asked about, it's still important to consider this other person in a 19 way, if you desire an open exchange (58) with him.

....stil don't get it ! Something is blocking my mind !
I am in the middle of a panic-crisis.
Breath in, breath out, ... breath in, breath out.

Thanks for trying to exlpain me.

 

[bruce_g]

Maria, maybe you're trying too hard?

My point was only that there are two people involved in this meeting, not just yourself. My impression (and it's only that) is that you seem so focused on doing the right thing, being the right way, not being the wrong way, that you may forget how to just be yourself, and let him just be himself. Leave the rest to fate, and remember 61. Trust yourself.

 

[maremaria]

Maria, maybe you're trying too hard?

My point was only that there are two people involved in this meeting, not just yourself. My impression (and it's only that) is that you seem so focused on doing the right thing, being the right way, not being the wrong way, that you may forget how to just be yourself, and let him just be himself. Leave the rest to fate, and remember 61. Trust yourself.

It's not your impression. It is excactly how things are. I'll be fine.it is just a panic-crisis
(panic : A sudden unreasoning and overwhelming fear .) This will pass too.

The horse is in a state of high anxiety.She is hiding in a dark cave. The moon calls her to go outside. She takes a deep breath and goes outside to run with the moon....

thanks

 

[bruce_g]

By the way, Maria, it isn’t just you who is obsessed with doing the right thing and not doing the wrong thing. It seems to be a disorder most of us Yi-heads suffer from.

 

[maremaria]

By the way, Maria, it isn’t just you who is obsessed with doing the right thing and not doing the wrong thing. It seems to be a disorder most of us Yi-heads suffer from.

I know that I am the only one ! There are many clubs for people like me ! the good thing is that with my membership card I have discounts on restaurants, spa, malls, etc.

Last night a thunder hit the horse.
51.1 (lise)

Thoughtlessness is one of the biggest causes of trouble. Not stupidity, not inexperience, not taking too much risk. Just think of all the things you would have done different if you had thought before acting. So be grateful for shocks, they hit you out of thoughtlessness. Many have been saved from disaster by a shock, or even from death. And once your mind is awake again, look back and realize the waste of a life with a sleeping mind.

not bad !!!

 

[bruce_g]

That's funny.. it makes a picture in my head: the horse procrastinating.. should I go and run with the moon?
...maybe I wait... or maybe ... BOOM! and off she goes!

 

[bruce_g]

I think what's important is not the shock but how we respond to it. If all we do is react, then we follow our reactions, which does not make for a reliable horse. Line 1 doesn't react, it responds with laughter and joy.

 

[Trojina]

The thing is with the horse in 61.4 though is its done with being reliable - its doing its own thing now

 

[bruce_g]

Reliable to whom? I think that's the crux of line 4. Yes, it does leave the team or group, but is true to itself.

From LiSe's comments: Wanting all that society offers means one loses a lot Self.

From Brad's comments: ...the team horse breaks from his harness and bolts from his servitude.

 

[bruce_g]

So it comes down to: Who do you serve? Whose inner truth do you follow? And, do you have legs of your own to stand on? That determines reliability, in the context of 61.

Now, in terms of 54, that's quite contrary... heh heh

 

[maremaria]

That's funny.. it makes a picture in my head: the horse procrastinating.. should I go and run with the moon?
...maybe I wait... or maybe ... BOOM! and off she goes!

EXCACTLY !!!!