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Greetings Clarity :bows:
Been dwelling on life, love and the sense of it all - how will this quest for the partner in life end up for me then? 19 unchanged:eek:
What is approaching/nearing? 47.2<45:cloud:
There is more but why add to the misery...
Has anyone ever had anything concrete come out of 47.2 on the theme?

I won`t hold it against you not answering but may hold it against myself for posting latter on.
 

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47.2<45

Nine in the second place means:
One is oppressed while at meat and drink.
The man with the scarlet knee bands is just coming.
It furthers one to offer sacrifice.
To set forth brings misfortune.
No blame.

The whole theme of the hexagram is "oppression", and most of it is the oppression one puts on one's self. This shows inner struggle. Someone ("man with scarlet bands") will enter your life and you might be inclined to join them (this might be referring to a new man), but it is vital that you take care of your inner state before tackling a new partner. Though the added "no blame" is kinda like the I Ching saying "while I don't think you should be focusing on men right now, I wouldn't blame you if you did."

The 19 is further saying: "There's potential for beauty and wonderful relationships, but keep in mind that all things end". It might be pointing to a relationship with a bad ending, but this could simply be a stepping stone before the "real one". The "partner in life".
 

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Thank you for the reply, always interesting to get outside opinion. I am being told lately in different ways by Yi, to be patient, but what for?
54.1,3, 49,3, etc but I am not entering into anything easily and I never do. It took me years to fall for someone who just recently stood me up cold so I have no perspective on the matter.

Always thought that men with purple knee bands are bad people somehow - opressors:mad: but now it gives an idea of a helper in this line`s case. Or this is a hidden danger approaching?
Hillary has a strong warning attached to this line "...It seems that you are being offered the chance to set your world to rights - however much you may need setting to rights - do not take it."
Looks just more temptation is comming at my weakened nerves.
 

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Yeah, I can see the "temptation" you're talking about. And that's a great quote by Hillary.

Scarlet knee bands are actually signs of the prince... but since most other places in the I Ching the "prince" is directly said, it's almost like this person is just wearing the costume of a prince, or is a prince in appearance only. Just my little theory.
 
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I think you are going to meet someone soon. Hex 19 unchanging has come up for me that way. I always take 19 to be misfortune only if someone waits too long and misses the opportunity. 49 suggests that things will totally change as well. Could even be someone you already know, and maybe the time where things will change is approaching.
 

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I always take 19 to be misfortune only if someone waits too long and misses the opportunity.
Well, that is a confusing bit. I take it there is an opened hand approaching - (gotten the same for asking about work and it is ok for now, but uncertain about duration) an opportunity but what it is? Red LiSe, Bradford, Hilary, Tuck Chang and now I am confused - purple knee bands are mentioned only in this hexagram, I believe. And it is something one sees when kneeling in front of a nobility. So it is advisable to be humble but not persevering with the opportunity or is it saying that due to brooding, the chance gets omissed (idea enhanced by hex 19 UN) or simply one is not ready within one`s heart and mind to accept the chance/change offered?

49 suggests that things will totally change as well. Could even be someone you already know, and maybe the time where things will change is approaching.
Ahm, my thought are still turned towards the past so, I really can`t be objective and certainly not hopeful.
Wish someone shared their experience with hex 47, and this line:bows:
 

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I hate to ask again, but I don`t really get the message of 47.2.
 

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The message of 47.2 is that difficulties arise out of food or drink, or from sitting down at table with or without others. The vermillion sash wearer is a high official of some kind. If one sacrifices to him or her, blessings will be received. This is the line of gluttony or, alternatively, not being able to enjoy one's food, due to adverse conditions. This is also a line of sitting too long in one position. Bear in mind that the hexagram is about confinement and oppression. The presence of the high official can be a blessing in the sense that the proceedings are honored by the presence of the official -- or in some cases the official makes the whole situation become more formal. I would say that eating too much and/or sitting too long are almost always parts of what this line means.
 

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I understood immediately that hex 19 was talking about progressive and 47.2 about current state.
The meaning here I find to be very important as it seems to be complex - it could be talking about literal inertia and weight issues or about barren feasting but in an figurative sense - feeding on wrong ideas?
I go back to the original question when the answer gets confusing, so am I being told I will get some sort of an validation for my mistaken attitude and that is what is approaching?
Not that one has something firm to hold on or look onto when confined...

I thought I will get some soothing news - something to put my mind to rest and give me some sort of optimism maybe.. But then I guess that certain institutions keep their patients calm and comfortably numb also.
 

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What a terrible feeling - since gotten this cast, I find myself feeling more and more confined and helpless...regained consciousness makes me only more aware of it....makes me wonder how knowing (and agreeing) affects us then....watched a movie with N.Cage as a man who could see limited amount of time in the future where he said something like: "Knowing changes everything".
I am not sure if it changes things for the better.
 

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