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I just returned from Sri Lanka where I was visiting my ex-fiance who had asked me to go over there to patch things up. We met, I went to his family home, but his father, who is also his boss on the family farm, prevented him from visiting me and travelling with me as planned. I left after finding out I can apply for a resident visa to live in Sri Lanka under a scheme for foreign professionals. After leaving my ex started sending me texts asking me not to forget him, that once he had finished building the new farmhouse for his ailing parents he would be free of his responsibilities to his father. I asked I Ching about the situation- what to expect, and got 2 all lines changing to 1. I am planning to move there, visa permitting, for 2 years from September 2011.

I think I Ching is saying to hold firm to my vision, and things will work out- we will marry as we both wanted to originally. Is this a fair interpretation? Thanks for any offerings!:bows:
 

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yes, possibility is channelling into action and creativity.

2 all lines changing:
There is harvest in ever-flowing constancy

keep going, there will be harvest

2 > 1 is also a nice picture of woman and man together. (in an archetypal sense.)

I also see it as the woman running towards the man.
 

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I dont think this is reading is giving you the clear go ahead to move to Sri Lanka in Sept. without a clear commitment from your fiance. I might suggest a slightly different interpretation instead. 2>1 - instead of allowing things to unfold and remaining just receptive to the way things are happening, you might need to take an active role in the way you want things to shape up, if you want this marriage to occur. What that active role of yours is - well you should probably determine that for yourself, based on your comfort level with this situation.
I dont want o introduce my personal biases here, but frankly, your fiance's behavior doesnt sound like active commitment towards you, however, I also know, having been born in that area, that commitments towards parents can far outweigh that towards spouses, especially not-yet spouses, so perhaps he really is keen to marry you, but is not able to break away from parental obligations which are standing in the way.
 

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just wanted to clarify that i was saying yes:

I think I Ching is saying to hold firm to my vision, and things will work out- we will marry as we both wanted to originally. Is this a fair interpretation? Thanks for any offerings!

that is a fair interpretation indeed.

The line i quoted above was from the wiki wing for hex 2 with all lines changing. The advice is to remain constant or as you say hold firm. And I like how you said vision because that is a word that for me describes hex 1 as well.

a few other interpretations of 2 all lines changing:
wilhelm:
Lasting perseverance furthers.

lise:
Harvest: everlasting determination.

bradford:
worth enduring persistence

from memorizing thread:
Stephen Karcher suggestes that all six lines changing can be interpreted as being 'a long term effort which is perpetually advantageous'.
 

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With 2, all lines moving, there is a complete turnaround in the circumstances. You have to be like the earth yielding to the yang influence of heaven. Thus, you must go from passive to the active and take charge of your life. Decide what it is that you truly want and then act on it. Marriage in the Yijing is not the same thing as love. Marriage is an institution as it is in Sri Lanka. These hexagrams are both auspicious for marriage. But you may want something else. But you must take action no matter what it is that you want.
 

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Thank you both of you for sharing these interpretations. I have several I-Ching commentaries, but need help sometimes to clarify the common thread between them. The term 'vision' I use relates to a project he and I wanted to develop following our marriage, a social enterprise, which originated in my vision and he wanted to join. We had decided to go ahead as 50/50 business partners. The loss of the relationship was about the father being afraid his only son would travel the world engaged in this business, and leave his parents to cope with the family farm alone, which he stands to inherit. The blockages are about my ex's attempt to have it all- keep something on the back burner with me, slowly simmering, while he fulfils his obligations to his parents. If I were South Asian I think I'd be goign along with this happily as such arrangements and priorities are taken as a given there. I have lived in India for 2 years, in an Indian household, so understand that.

I saw last week that he is indeed working very very hard on their behalf. I saw the fear in his mother's eyes when she saw us together, clealry her son has a strong bond with a foreign older woman, we have a common sense of humour so there are a lot of 'in jokes' and asides between us, mostly non-verbal. This I could see was unnerving her.

I fully support his need to fulfil his obligations to his parents. I just wish he had been honest about it before I got to Sri Lanka and had not invited me there on the pretext he could spend substantial time alone with me. I think he was just desparate to see me and demonstrate to me he is telling the truth about the work he's doing for them, that he is not just saying these things. He is building them a larger six roomed house lower down the mountain, completely alone, single handedly....his father has arthritis and cannot hike up to current home for much longer. It is a very serious climb up rocks and boulders to get there.

I retruned to Europe from 2 years in South Asia in January, following our break up, and decided to go ahead with the social enterprise alone. I founded the company, got all the legal and financial structures in place, built the webiste and am now working on a final online product (two are developed). A percentage of all profits will be invested in social welfare projects in South Asia that I've been involved in, plus new ventures we will support. My ex has expresssed a wish to be involved as promised. But we will see.

I wish to run the new venture from Sri Lanka where I have the support of many like minded people, whether I marry my fiance or not. One aspect of the service will be to offer retreats and workshops there teaching mindfulness based life skills- something I have a long training in as a psychologist. I want to offer these in Sri Lanka to foreign guests, because the overheads are lower, the Buddhist culture supportive and the intensity of the experience for participants will be richer.

This is the vision that I feel I must hold on to- a vision of shared service to others that formed the basis of our relationship to begin with. It evolved from discussions about how best to do this work together. We are both Buddhists and met when I was on pilgrimage in Sri Lanka.

So the interprations offered make sense, in this particular context. I must yield to how it is right now, maintain my original vision and quietly pursue an independent route to Sri Lanka that does not involve marriage. It is up to me to take action. I have more power to do so, more freedom right now than he does. I have no ties. I am not concenred too much about marriage and only agreed to it to make setting up the business between UK, India and Sri Lanka much easier. But now I have found another way potentially. I would be much happier to remain free and take time getting to know his family better from an independent base. I could realistically assess the possibility of us being able to do this together far more effectivly if I were doing so.

So I think my original nutshell interpretation was a fair one, which has been affirmed by these further additional interpretations?

Thanks again.
 

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