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Hujambo

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Hi,

It's been a while since I've been this stuck with a reading, hoping to get a few ideas.

The situation is that I've been asked to assist with a campaign for a non-profit group at the last minute.

What is your advice on the best course of action?
21.1.2 - 64

I had made some recommendations around this after wasting months setting up all the tools they would need, only to have them revert to their old way of doing things at every opportunity and generally destroy the integrity of what I built for them. So they aren't really benefiting from the tools at their disposal (it's better but is it worth all the effort to build a 4-storey mansion if you continue to live in shack because you're not sure how to look after the house?) But if I continue to help them and they don't obstruct me too much, they are likely to get tangible, measurable results. They are alternately very happy with my work plus they didn't pay as per the agreement. I had to let that slide to be done with the project.

Enough about "them" the issue and this reading is mine and I'm trying to decipher how best to respond in a way that will help me grow without unnecessary drama. Problem is I can't get myself okay with simply walking away, which would make sense. I care a lot about the cause.

I feel like a total failure that I could have put in so much energy to overcome hundreds of obstacles to complete the project in a way that I'm a little bit proud of only to find it isn't over and I'm faced with the same choices (and smacks across the back of the head) I've had the whole way through. The reading seems to hold good advice yet when I try and grasp the meaning and make it practical, it may as well be written in martian for all the sense I can make of it. What is justice, how much or how little should be applied, and how is it to be issued? Do I have the right? To do what, I'm not sure, but that's the question that I'm stumbling over within myself.

Any experience with this combination?
 

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Yes it sounds frustrating, so I will try my best to help break the situation down for your, 21 itself is about obstacles like open mouth with something in the way of closing it, the advice seems to use meat as a metaphor or metal or gold, so in line one, the advice is to halt, i take that as just stop and look at the situation like a fly on the wall, look around at the terrain, the line is fairly clear on the advice of stopping for a moment before things get worse.


Line 2 i think is stating in a way what you have said, the problems are obvious like biting the meat no problem, so possibly allot pf people can see what the issues are so at least you dont need to explain that. There has been some arrogance by someone or some people as they have thought they knew what is best and they have paid the price and the indignity to have to ask you to come back. That is the punishment for them not you, you did not beg to come back.
There is no REAL harm done if I am correct.

So you should feel honored in a way, but its depressing or disapointing when people do what they are doing, if you know the story of Steve Jobs who built the Apple company only to be fired then asked to come back and fix a mess. However he built it better than before because it was more than a job to him like this sounds like to you.

64

THE JUDGMENT
BEFORE COMPLETION. Success.
But if the little fox, after nearly completing the crossing,
Gets his tail in the water,
There is nothing that would further.

This signifies the project

So this is a big hassle for you and wont be easy

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The conditions are difficult. The task is great and full of responsibility. It is nothing less than that of leading the world out of confusion back to order. But it is a task that promises success, because there is a goal that can unite the forces now tending in different directions. At first, however, one must move warily, like an old fox walking over ice. The caution of a fox walking over ice is proverbial in China. His ears are constantly alert to the cracking of the ice, as he carefully and circumspectly searches out the safest spots. A young fox who as yet has not acquired this caution goes ahead boldly, and it may happen that he falls in and gets his tail wet when he is almost across the water. Then of course his effort has been all in vain. Accordingly, in times “before completion,” deliberation and caution are the prerequisites of success.

Personally I would be having a meeting with everyone involved and saying look if you want my help I am willing to give, but you people need to listen to instruction this project could collaspe so we can either build it or let this happen.

Some personal suggestions again You need a manager to give instructions someone who understands what you are saying yet can be a good communicater with everyone. I dont know whether you are completely in charge or not it doesnt matter because they have asked for your help. A king doest fight a war he has a general that leads troops or if a king is losing a war and employs a general to help then he must listen to the general.

The reason I say all this is to prevent it from happening again
64 is success or failure I think.
You will need to be very cautious and try to miss things that can harm progress. I strongly advise not to rush it either or this could lead to failure, so i think early on especially it will be very frustrating and feel like you are getting no-where but be patient. Keep the big picture in mind and you will be on your way to success.

I am assuming you will take on the project,

PS Might be a good time to ask for a little money as well.

In summary are you up for the challenge?

Hope I helped with things
Steve
 
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Tim K

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Hi Hujambo, long time no see :)

I think 21.1.2 says to take a passive position [.1], only doing the easiest things[.2] (biting the best parts, the softest meat). Trying to be in charge would be futile [.1], just help them with parts that they want done but using your effective methods.

2nd line is only a general, he doesn't make decisions and orders.
 

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Thank you both, those interpretations really made a difference to my understanding.

A few things happened overnight, initially I was being asked to help by the person who has most opposed me, but she wrote the request as almost a threat, ie. you'll have to do exactly what I say or I won't use the system. There is a very senior person (executive) that has authority over this project, I asked him what he thought and his initial response took no responsibility for anything and prompted me to do the reading.

After I did the reading and I still couldn't decide, I sent him a message letting him know that I wasn't sure what is the best thing for me to do in this situation. Late last night he responded to both of us reminding that the reason we deployed the system was for precisely this kind of campaign, so we must use it properly. Then he sent me a personal message, begging for me to agree to help. And I did exactly what you suggested, Steve (great minds hey?). I told him I would help, that I wanted to but I didn't want it to be a big hassle for all involved, plus I asked how much they could afford to pay.

We have agreed the basic course of action but I am yet to have further communication with the woman I must work with. This one I need to be most wary of and alert to her ability to bring chaos without warning, although that issue is systemic and in my experience with them so far, chaos can come from any direction. In the same way Ashteroid, as you mentioned, I do not want to lead here, the goal for me is facilitation of the desired outcome, to enable. For that to happen, it can't be about me or about personal interactions, it's all about the common goal.

I actually ran a proof of concept on one of my recommendations overnight and sent them the results. The executive was truly impressed and it took me only 20 minutes to do. The easy way is a very good approach for me to follow. Frequently my commitment to the outcome is greater than those making the requests, that is one thing (of the many) I need to keep balanced. Quick wins are just as valid as hard-earned wins if they are effective.

Steve, I really want to say thanks for taking so much time to break down the reading, I learned a great deal and I can see why it was obscured from me. Yi instructs, advises and if necessary puts a blindfold on and spins you around so that you don't move forward until your mind has returned. It seems like my experience of the reading is a living example of the energy and quality of attention I must bring to this project. It's eight weeks at the most before I will know how we went. I will update this thread when it's done.

Ashteroid, yes it has been a long time, though I often get to see your wonderful - straight to the point - interpretations. You have helped so many people, a truly shining spirit you have there. I hope things are going really well for you.
 

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Yes that was the part in the reading I wasnt quite sure of who is leading who, thats what I am meaning if he is employing you he must not ask you do this with one arm tied, you cant wage a war like that, perhaps the woman might feel undignified because they have asked you to return Line 2 i think with 64 and the lines associated with it, that dont expect to get to your goals fast, if you find she is a big issue maybe ask the yi whats the best way of dealing with her.

Update if you can

Steve
 

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if you find she is a big issue maybe ask the yi whats the best way of dealing with her.

She is fine with me for the moment. I spoke with her this evening and she was amazed at what we were able to achieve today and the value of the new system that she hadn't previously realised. I also spoke with her this morning and offered my assistance and support which I couldn't have done so sincerely without working through yesterday's question. She was mostly overwhelmed by everything she has to achieve, so she's relieved that my focus is on making her job easier. Also, this approach has inspired her to try new things and be open to suggestions for improvements. It's early days though and the excitement is high. I'll be watching intently for Hex 64 closer to the end, in that moment where it might seem like no big deal to let down my guard for a minute ;)
 

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Yes of course its normal her reaction at first just human, thats fanatastic , i guess your knowledge is your power and use it wisely as i meant in line 2 is no real harm done, in 64 its feel close but its not, but is climbing your own mountain, sounds exciting she is willing to work with you, the war you are waging is on the project not each other,

Thank you also I learned from this
Steve
 

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