22.6 > 36

[ginnie]

Been pondering the meanings of 22.6.

White is his only adornment.

Here is something from the Internet today on why wedding dresses are now usually white. Apparently wedding dresses used to be black, red, and purple before Queen Victoria of England changed all that:

"Queen Victoria chose white not because it symbolized purity, but because she wanted to show her people that she would run the country in an economical way. White was a much less expensive color to make than the colors typically popular for wedding dresses at the time (red, black, and purple). Plus, it gave her the option of using some lace that she already owned, rather than having something specially made.

So basically, the white dress was originally a political move."

I have read that before, in connection with line 22.6, about how undyed cloth appears to be 'white.' Making dyes used to be an arduous process and it must have been very expensive, too.

Adorning oneself in the most economical way? Ready to adapt to changing political conditions?
We are cautious about what we display to others?

Conscious that harm can come from possessions visible to others who do not possess as much, is this an instruction to take off or remove our adornments? Is the taking off or removal of adornments implied here?

Or is this a simple directive to just "be oneself" -- that is, without worrying about how one looks to others or what they think? Since 22 is about how we present ourselves, could 22.6 signify that we consciously present ourselves as unconcerned about adornments?

This line seems to possess too many meanings to be helpful in a reading. Is there any way to narrow down what this line might signify in a reading?

 

[pocossin]

White is the color of death in Chinese culture. The top line is the line of spirit, and white is appropriate there.

. . . white is associated with death and is used predominantly in funerals in Chinese culture. Ancient Chinese people wore white clothes and hats only when they mourned for the dead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_in_Chinese_culture#White.2FSilver

 

[anemos]

White is the color of death in Chinese culture. The top line is the line of spirit, and white is appropriate there.

death and purification have something in common.

An individual is in a situation in which doubts arise as to which is better-to
pursue the grace of external brilliance, or to return to simplicity. The doubt
itself implies the answer. Confirmation comes from the outside; it comes like
a white winged horse. The white color indicates simplicity. At first it may be
disappointing to renounce the comforts that might have been obtained, yet
one finds peace of mind in a true relationship with the friend who courts
him. The winged horse is the symbol of the thoughts that transcend all limits
of space and time.

have whilhelm made a mistake here or white meant also something else to Chinene ?

 

[pocossin]

Has whilhelm made a mistake here or white meant also something else to Chinese?

I don't know if Wilhelm is mistaken. This is about the fourth line, but Ginnie's is the sixth. Different line, different meaning. Wilhelm appears to be projecting Western ideas onto the Chinese. His "The winged horse is the symbol of the thoughts that transcend all limits of space and time" (p.93) looks suspiciously like Pegasus.

 

[anemos]

I don't know if Wilhelm is mistaken. This is about the fourth line, but Ginnie's is the sixth. Different line, different meaning. Wilhelm appears to be projecting Western ideas onto the Chinese. His "The winged horse is the symbol of the thoughts that transcend all limits of space and time" (p.93) looks suspiciously like Pegasus.

I think I have read that winged horse exist also in Buddhism and Hindu but not sure.

Wonder whether white in line 6 has to do with light, since we have fire in h22 . Maya comes in mind when I read 22.

 

[pocossin]

Chinese heavenly horses

http://www.silk-road.com/artl/wuti.shtml
the Han era flying horses from Fergana

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longma
the dragon horse

 

[anemos]

Chinese heavenly horses

http://www.silk-road.com/artl/wuti.shtml
the Han era flying horses from Fergana

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longma
the dragon horse

Thanks Tom

 

[rodaki]

usually I see 22.6 as 'what you see is what you get' kind of thing, where appearances fall away and the simple things show their value through and through . .

I have a strange experience with this line .. some time ago a very good friend of mine was going through some health trouble concerning a chronic issue he has. He had an acute crisis in the middle of the night and at first decided to fight it off but later on it got worse and he ended up in the hospital; the doctors held him there for a couple of hours to see how things would turn out but if worse he would have to undergo minor surgery right away. All the time ever since the crisis started I was thinking about him, wishing he would be ok, sending him in my mind wishes to find the strength to pull it through . . in the end, a little before the waiting period ended, his symptoms dissipated on their own and the next morning he was released, and he narrated the story to me, happy and strong

When I posed the question whether my thoughts and prayers had any effect I got 22.6 . . I don't know if this makes me deluded, but a part of me wants to believe that they did help him somehow . .

 

[bamboo]

In a reading, I take 22.6 to be about not needing to adorn, and yes, maybe even an instructive to take off the adornments. I think of the old fashion admonitive: "take off the obvious!" If all eyes focus on the glittery diamond necklace, they might miss the fact that the person wearing it has a stunning natural beauty. Coco Chanel made a fortune using a 22.6 philosophy in her designs.

 

[bamboo]

usually I see 22.6 as 'what you see is what you get' kind of thing, where appearances fall away and the simple things show their value through and through . .

When I posed the question whether my thoughts and prayers had any effect I got 22.6 . . I don't know if this makes me deluded, but a part of me wants to believe that they did help him somehow . .

I like that. It reminds how I once heard that children's prayers for others are very powerful. They are usually uncomplicated without the baggage of doubt.

 

[ginnie]

Thanks you everybody. From Coco Chanel to healing prayers in a health crisis -- still trying to 'get it' ...

The form and the function (or content) are in a perfect match with each other?

The other day, just before workmen came to do repairs in the apartment, I asked Yi to tell me what I needed to know. I got 22.6 ... so I took off my earrings and put them away in my jewelry box. Seemed the logical thing to do. Thank you, I Ching!

I have often found that the top line is not exactly an instruction like the other lines. To me it often seems like a warning or admonition set above that particular hexagram as a whole.

Looked at that way, 22.6 would say, "Let your refinements reflect who you really are. That is true elegance."

Stated negatively: "Don't let your add-ons exceed your situation!" Whincup mentions the importance of not appearing to outshine other people.

Pocossin, I can also see how 22.6 is connected with the end of life and death. As we often see in the elderly, it doesn't seem to matter how fashion-conscious or appearance-oriented someone has been their whole life. Sometimes the elderly forget to fix their hair before going outside and appear in public places with clothes unwashed and buttons undone, which other people don't appreciate. So that would be a good meaning of 22.6 > 36.

It could signify literal death and also the death of vanity, those vain illusions about ourselves ... Top line moving in 22 does come right before 23 after all ...

The conventions governing outer forms and appearances are myriad and so stifling. Giving up even thinking about what other people think; that is, giving up self-consciousness about something?

 

[rodaki]

, giving up self-consciousness about something?

I like that a lot

. . if I were to get 22.6 on a question like yours Ginnie I would look into things like whether the workers were doing a simple and honest no-frills job, or that maybe the work would require taking off a coating to reveal hidden trouble or heating issues(?) (using Pocossin's visual reading, 22 with 6th changing looks to me like someone taking off the lid to see what's underneath)
or consider the fact that, if working in dark corners of the house, the workers would need extra light sources

(definitely not something concerning prayer but I think the 'what you see is what you get' still would apply . .)

 

[bamboo]

thtink 36 is so perfect as a relating hex. Brightness Hiding. tone it down. For a job interview for instance, 22.6 > 36 would say that one's personality and clothing matters less...a simple suit few adornments, and being succinct and conservative about what you express about yourself. less is more. The hidden brightness can actually be hinted at.... and perceived by employer more easily when it isn't trying to hard to be known. quiet confidence is very powerful

 

[charly]

... if working in dark corners of the house, the workers would need extra light sources ...

Of course. But what are they doing? (1)

Una mujer desnuda y en lo osuro
genera una claridad que nos alumbra.
Por eso, si sobreviene un desconsuelo,
un apagón o una noche sin luna,
es conveniente y hasta imprescindible
tener a mano una mujer desnuda...
​

Mario Benedetti
(Quoted by heart, no accuracy warranted)

I apologize!


Charly

________________________
(1) 婚 Is one of the characterrs meaning marriage, to marry, it´s a compound of:
at the left LADY, young woman, at the right DARK over SUN > A LADY IN THE SHADE.

 

[ginnie]

at the right DARK over SUN > A LADY IN THE SHADE.

A lady in the shade. I had to hide myself in the other room and be really quiet for a number of hours while the workmen were in the apartment. I don't like to stand over people and 'supervise.' Prefer to assume they know what they're doing and don't need me getting in the way.

Rodaki, everything you said applies to that situation ... including "a simple and honest no-frills job," and "What you see is what you get."

Bamboo, "less is more": succinct and we all understand this. Let the form fit the function.

 

[charly]

... so perfect as a rela...x. Brightness Hiding. tone it down. For a ... interview ... would say that one's personality and clothing matters less...a simple suit few adornments, and being succinct and conservative ... less is more. The hidden brightness ... quiet confidence is very powerful

Hi Barbara:

Your words are very suggestive, be said without any bad intention.

A simple suite, few adornments, succint clothes (less is more) self confident...

Very powerful indeed! And very H.44:

姤 gou4: WOW!!!
女 nu3: GIRL / WOMAN
壯 zhuang4: STRONG​

Please, don't get upset, only a joke.

Yours,

Charly

 

[ginnie]

Thank you Charly!

 

[charly]

Thank you Charly!

Hi, Ginnie:

Do you like Benedetti? And Thank for the "thank".

Yours,

Charly

 

[ginnie]

Do you like Benedetti?

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, Charly!

Don't know about classical music and the musicians. Was interested in this quote from WikiPedia:

'Michelangeli reputedly did not enjoy giving concerts. After a concert, his wife reported that he gloomily said: "You see, so much applause, so much public. Then, in half an hour, you feel alone more than before." '

Yes, that is the way it is in this life. A little recognition, a tiny bit of acclaim -- and the next minute brings a return to solitude and being alone with one's own thoughts.

Better to work on one's own thoughts, therefore, than the piano keyboard -- or any keyboard --

In other words, not so good to remain gloomy. Do anything not to be gloomy.

Any kind of performance is always very tiring ...

 

[charly]

...
Yes, that is the way it is in this life. A little recognition, a tiny bit of acclaim -- and the next minute brings a return to solitude and being alone with one's own thoughts...

Hi, Ginnie:

But see that no thought belong to us, all that we have is borrowed.

Then better to have clear and happy thoughts, not dark and sad.

Enjoy the recognition even if it last a moment. It's a gift.

All the best,


Charly

 

[sooo]

Less is more, unless it's the hair on your head or the size of your shoes, as the legend goes.

 

[ginnie]

Less is more, unless it's the hair on your head or the size of your shoes, as the legend goes.

I'm glad you mentioned this, Sooo, because it relates to my original question.

I often think that the top line moving (in almost all the hexagrams) is not a directive but rather an observation and sometimes a warning arcing over the hexagram as a whole. In this case, the observation might be that no matter how much we value adornments, beauty, refinement and grace, one day we shall no longer be concerned with the surface qualities of things at all ...

 

[sooo]

Thanks, Ginny.

I received this lovely simple line last when my son and young family visited with me for a few days. I'd not yet met my new daughter-in-law, nor their 6 month old baby girl. Nor had I seen my youngest son in a couple years, as we live a good day's ride apart. I was very excited, and so wanted to make a good impression on each of them, wanted them to be proud of grandpa.

At the time I'd broken down and grew a version of the "I'm too cool to care that I haven't shaven in a few days" goat-t, that's so faddish these days. Now, to make a good impression, I thought I'd grow out the whole face, keep it trim and defined. The degree of this vanity actually led me to ask Yi, would the full a facial beard wear well on me? hahaha.. I got 22.6 - 27.

I kept the trim, white fuzzy mask while my gorgeous new family was here visiting. The final morning, we had planned some family photos outside in front of the house. (Can't you just see 22 throughout this whole thing? as well as the deeper and more important matters of connecting and nourishing souls of a new family and generation.) That morning, before they left for home, before the photos, I shaved the extraneous field of white hairs off an otherwise still well shaped, be it ever aging, face, and my utter joy from sharing time with my beautiful new family shown through in the photos. We laughed and had a great time, hugging a lot; the truth lighting up the mountain.

Beauty and realness shine through her Halloween costume. May I introduce: miss ladybug!

 

[rodaki]

(coming to check on hex9 in 'Badges of Merit' I came across this . . and, ehmm, couldn't help it . . )

 

[anemos]

the other day I got the best B-day present ever !!! A very 22.6 present. simple in form, don't even tangible but sooo 22.6 !!! '

Sometimes we decorate our intentions to make them more visible. Sometimes we look ( i do) for the perfect gift and gone lost to that quest and forget the initial goal.

This present was something I was longing for many many years and this year was its time. Simply beautiful and pricessless at the same time.

Looking for the perfect we miis the real. This present will always remind me that and line 22.6 too.




Miss bug is a cutie Sooo

 

[rosada]

Post the pictures of the whole family Sooo!

(p.s. if you go to youtube and type in Jaxbquick for a look at another fabulous grandchild.)

 

[sooo]

Post the pictures of the whole family Sooo!

(p.s. if you go to youtube and type in Jaxbquick for a look at another fabulous grandchild.)

Cool Jax vids.

So weird; I always looked around for the nearest exist when grandfolks pulled out pictures of their grandkids. Couldn't identify with their glee, until now.

 

[ginnie]

Awesome

 

[ginnie]

22.6: Looking for the perfect

Looking for the perfect we miss the real.

This bears repeating!

Hexagram 22 is about our need for the perfect whatever.

I never realized this before: Hexagram 22 is really about our need to see perfection here on earth, where, of course, it is almost completely missing, most of the time ...

Anemos, your phrase seems to apply to all the posts ... Thank you!

 

[anemos]

thanks ginnie

A lesson I learned the hard way
"perfect is not real, but real is way better than perfect "