27 & men - no changing lines

[aiyana]

Over the past year I have received 27 no changing lines several times when asking about how men feel about me & what I provide for men. A little background - I have more or less taken a break from dating over this time period, taking time to myself & gaining physical strength & recovering financially after an extended illness. 27 has come up in relation to 5 or 6 men with whom there has been chemistry, but no further action beyond that. With a couple of the men, 50 no changing lines has come up also.

It seems that 27 can mean nourishing oneself spiritually and physically, which has necessarily been my focus. Do these men sense that I have the capacity to nurture them (a quality that has developed over the past year, along with more patience & compassion), or do they want to take care of me? 27 can also signify addiction - are these men that have addiction issues? Some of them have been in existing relationships. The same gua coming up consistently with quite a disparate group of people has me wondering.

Any insight is much appreciated!

 

[Trojina]

The same gua coming up consistently with quite a disparate group of people has me wondering.

Any insight is much appreciated!

To think 27 means they all have addiction issues is pushing it a bit lol... 27 asks you to consider what you seek for nourishment. How could there be one thing you provide for men ? It sounds very alienating, distanced, as if men a uniform group and you are there to dish them up something. It sounds like an empty place to be conceptually which may be why you get 27 unchanging, open jaws. The Yi doesn't always answer what you ask and as you keep getting 27 i think it likley than rather than referring to these individual men its pointing to the bigger issue, or assumption behind the question which could need a sort of reversal in how you perceive things. Rather than looking to what they want and you are hoping to deliver, satisfy what you want and need from them. Be clear of what you need in your own mind and that may be a more fruitful approach.

 

[diamanda]

27 seems to come up a lot in relationship questions.
Well, obviously, relationships are a basic human need, like food.
So, in relation to the men you've asked about, they are 'edible', appropriate.
And 50 is again related to food; you need to cook them. That brings supreme success.
I'm not 100% certain if the plain 27 ones are ready-to-eat, or need cooking too.
But as a general rule, good relationships usually come out of slow cooking.
Bon appetit!

 

[willowfox]

It seems that they are initially attracted to you by your friendly behaviour but then you show a deeper side of yourself, perhaps it is something that you say to them, or are you too self interested perhaps.

 

[aiyana]

Rather than looking to what they want and you are hoping to deliver, satisfy what you want and need from them. Be clear of what you need in your own mind and that may be a more fruitful approach.

Thanks Trojan, these aren't individuals that I put a lot of energy into, it's more about that spark of attraction which as I'm getting older I don't immediately act upon, I wait and observe. Apart from 2 of them (& one of those is in the middle of a messy divorce...) I haven't looked deeply into who they are or what I might want/need from them.

 

[aiyana]

It seems that they are initially attracted to you by your friendly behaviour but then you show a deeper side of yourself, perhaps it is something that you say to them, or are you too self interested perhaps.

Willowfox, in thinking about your insight I asked, 'Is the continued 27 about something I say to them?' and got 30.2>14 which sounds generally positive. And on 'Am I too self interested?' I received 60 unchanging, which I believe refers to my reevaluating things over the past year. On asking what is happening with the person I'm most interested in, who called me to go out last night, I once again got 27. Do you see any advice for action on my part with this guy? I guess looking within and clarifying if he and I can nourish each other. I say this one is definitely edible! lol (thx diamanda!)

 

[willowfox]

I asked, 'Is the continued 27 about something I say to them?' and got 30.2>14

It well could be, do you engage in chatting about things that these men find boring, or are you too intellectual for them?

'Am I too self interested?' I received 60 unchanging

It suggests yes, limiting your outlook to yourself for instance.

On asking what is happening with the person I'm most interested in, who called me to go out last night, I once again got 27. Do you see any advice for action on my part with this guy?

It suggests that the action to take is to maybe pamper and make a good meal for him, as the way to a man's heart is through his stomach.

 

[Trojina]

Thanks Trojan, these aren't individuals that I put a lot of energy into, it's more about that spark of attraction which as I'm getting older I don't immediately act upon, I wait and observe. Apart from 2 of them (& one of those is in the middle of a messy divorce...) I haven't looked deeply into who they are or what I might want/need from them.

Well it might be a good idea if you did then you might stop getting 27 . Hex 27, I think, suggests you do exactly that which you say you have not done. I think you're leading yourself up the garden path with the other questions which are based on assumptions, the false premise that you said something wrong to them or that you are self interested. There is absolutely nothing in the reading that points particularly to that so you're taking shots in the dark...so if you go hunting around for what you said wrong etc etc you move further and further from the real issue which is nourishment

 

[aiyana]

Trojan/Willowfox, thanks for your comments. I've started casually seeing the man I last posted about & have realized that at this stage of his life he doesn't give me all I'm looking for - he's warm and bright & funny however doesn't know who he is yet. The conversation flows & shared interests & attraction are there, and as often as he pops into my mind I know I need to leave space for things to develop in their own course. We will continue to see each other socially & time will tell.

When asking about how things stand between us, now I've been getting repeated 28; and when asking how he feels about me have received 5 Patience several times. 28 has always been confusing to me - From reading Karcher, it seems there is a crisis of individuation occurring (looking to my own needs rather than fitting into the needs of others'? maybe letting go of attachment towards this man & my hopes with him?). The 5, I'm guessing he is in a 'wait and see' phase with me (as ultimately I am with him).

Could anyone share some insight on 28? Thanks in advance for any thoughts.

 

[willowfox]

Yes Hex 5 is about waiting for the relationship to develop further in the awareness that there are various things that will need to be resolved along the way.

Hex 28 shows that the relationship has reached a point of no return, there is now a call for action to be taken, a decision needs to be made by you by the sound of things, where you want this little romance to go and it suggests a blending together. It is you that now needs to make some significant changes.

 

[aiyana]

I'm not sure what changes there are for me to make. It's clear to me that he needs some time to clarify what he's looking for (he just ended a year long relationship a couple of weeks ago, when he began getting in touch every day or two). He needs a month or two to run around and 're-set', I think. Willowfox, I thought about your comments on my possibly being too intellectual, but that is not the case w this man - he loves talking books & debating theory, whereas I'm more interested in learning/gaining wider perspectives; while I enjoy the challenge I don't particularly feel the need to argue or be positional about them. Then again, he is an attorney! When I asked about our compatibility tonight, I received 55 unchanging. Perhaps the changes are about my standing firm in what I want while nourishing & being nourished (going back to the previous 27s).

 

[sasha]

For all it is worth i have too got both 27 (as a corresponding hexagram) and 28 in relationship questions.

27 is still shrouded in mystery for me, but 28 looks to me (as Wilowfox says) to represent a point where you must either go one or the other way. Based on your own intuition.

In my case it came as an answer to a question about what to do when my situation was in a standstill but intolerable. (Im still not out those waters, so my look at this hex in this context is sort of a work in progress)
the way I see it this requires a great deal of self insight, and honesty towards self. (which I believe Yi Jing requires of one every time) if nothing is done it will be very counterproductive and destructive for you. (and me)