28 unchanging relationship

[post-snow]

hi,

i would appreciate some input on the reading of 28 uc hexagram, i asked about an unusual relationship and the qzestion is "how is the situation". it des not seem very clear to me but "
'The lake submerges the tree: Great Exceeding.
A noble one stands alone without fear,
Withdraws from the time without sadness.'"

seems foreboding? ie leaving the relationship?

 

[marybluesky]

He's feeling too much pressure; something is too much for this situation.

 

[post-snow]

thanks

 

[dfreed]

28 uc hexagram, i asked about an unusual relationship and the question is "how is the situation".

The statement for Hex 28 is, 'The ridgepole sags. Favorable where there is somewhere to go.'

If I turn the hexagram on it's side I can imagine that it's a ridgepole, a support beam at the top of your home: it is made to bend, to sag and warp; but it only has so much flexibility, and if bent too far it can break. So one meaning here is that you need to be flexible in your relationship with this other person, but you both also need to know when you're going too far - otherwise one of you, or the relationship, will break.

Looking at the trigrams as representing each of you:

Wind below: here you are being inquisitive, maybe exploring the possibilities of what this relationship is or can be. You might ask lots of questions, like 'how is this situation?'. One key idea here is you need to view the input you receive as information and then be willing to pay attention to the details of what you're seeing / feeling / hearing / sensing. It implies taking a gentle approach and of being open - and NOT approaching this with pre-conceived ideas of what's happening (especially if you, in fact, do not really know what's happening.)

Lake above: here the other person (he, she, they?) is mostly operating on a 'pleasure principle', where their main filter for how they see the relationship - and whether or not they think it's working - is: 'is this pleasurable, are we having a good time, do we get along, am I having (or still having) fun?' As an aside, I wonder, is it perhaps possible that this person is bringing the element of uniqueness to the relationship? (Just a thought.)

It might be useful for you - as part of your gentle exploration of your relationship - to also ask yourself: 'do I enjoy this relationship; does this person bring me joy (which might also include feeling safe, feeling accepted, etc.)'?

One thing that may be an obstacle or challenge for you is fear. Do you have some fear that this relationship is not working out? Or, are you letting your fear lead you to the conclusion that it's not working (when, in fact, it is working)? This fear may be present for the other person too, but I'm not entirely sure, so I focused on you (since it's your reading!).

(*** It's important to note that neither of you are correct or incorrect, nor right or wrong; you are just being as you are. Here the Yi just is giving you information about your relationship - but it's not passing judgement, nor is it offering a recommendation as far as I can see.)

I hope that is of use to you.

Best, D

 

[post-snow]

The statement for Hex 28 is, 'The ridgepole sags. Favorable where there is somewhere to go.'

If I turn the hexagram on it's side I can imagine that it's a ridgepole, a support beam at the top of your home: it is made to bend, to sag and warp; but it only has so much flexibility, and if bent too far it can break. So one meaning here is that you need to be flexible in your relationship with this other person, but you both also need to know when you're going too far - otherwise one of you, or the relationship, will break.

Looking at the trigrams as representing each of you:

Wind below: here you are being inquisitive, maybe exploring the possibilities of what this relationship is or can be. You might ask lots of questions, like 'how is this situation?'. One key idea here is you need to view the input you receive as information and then be willing to pay attention to the details of what you're seeing / feeling / hearing / sensing. It implies taking a gentle approach and of being open - and NOT approaching this with pre-conceived ideas of what's happening (especially if you, in fact, do not really know what's happening.)

Lake above: here the other person (he, she, they?) is mostly operating on a 'pleasure principle', where their main filter for how they see the relationship - and whether or not they think it's working - is: 'is this pleasurable, are we having a good time, do we get along, am I having (or still having) fun?' As an aside, I wonder, is it perhaps possible that this person is bringing the element of uniqueness to the relationship? (Just a thought.)

It might be useful for you - as part of your gentle exploration of your relationship - to also ask yourself: 'do I enjoy this relationship; does this person bring me joy (which might also include feeling safe, feeling accepted, etc.)'?

One thing that may be an obstacle or challenge for you is fear. Do you have some fear that this relationship is not working out? Or, are you letting your fear lead you to the conclusion that it's not working (when, in fact, it is working)? This fear may be present for the other person too, but I'm not entirely sure, so I focused on you (since it's your reading!).

(*** It's important to note that neither of you are correct or incorrect, nor right or wrong; you are just being as you are. Here the Yi just is giving you information about your relationship - but it's not passing judgement, nor is it offering a recommendation as far as I can see.)

I hope that is of use to you.

Best, D

many thanks . this is super interestong. especially "It implies taking a gentle approach and of being open" and "are you letting your fear lead you to the conclusion that it's not working (when, in fact, it is working)?" are food for thought and opening my mind, thank you very much.

 

[post-snow]

The statement for Hex 28 is, 'The ridgepole sags. Favorable where there is somewhere to go.'

If I turn the hexagram on it's side I can imagine that it's a ridgepole, a support beam at the top of your home: it is made to bend, to sag and warp; but it only has so much flexibility, and if bent too far it can break. So one meaning here is that you need to be flexible in your relationship with this other person, but you both also need to know when you're going too far - otherwise one of you, or the relationship, will break.

Looking at the trigrams as representing each of you:

Wind below: here you are being inquisitive, maybe exploring the possibilities of what this relationship is or can be. You might ask lots of questions, like 'how is this situation?'. One key idea here is you need to view the input you receive as information and then be willing to pay attention to the details of what you're seeing / feeling / hearing / sensing. It implies taking a gentle approach and of being open - and NOT approaching this with pre-conceived ideas of what's happening (especially if you, in fact, do not really know what's happening.)

Lake above: here the other person (he, she, they?) is mostly operating on a 'pleasure principle', where their main filter for how they see the relationship - and whether or not they think it's working - is: 'is this pleasurable, are we having a good time, do we get along, am I having (or still having) fun?' As an aside, I wonder, is it perhaps possible that this person is bringing the element of uniqueness to the relationship? (Just a thought.)

It might be useful for you - as part of your gentle exploration of your relationship - to also ask yourself: 'do I enjoy this relationship; does this person bring me joy (which might also include feeling safe, feeling accepted, etc.)'?

One thing that may be an obstacle or challenge for you is fear. Do you have some fear that this relationship is not working out? Or, are you letting your fear lead you to the conclusion that it's not working (when, in fact, it is working)? This fear may be present for the other person too, but I'm not entirely sure, so I focused on you (since it's your reading!).

(*** It's important to note that neither of you are correct or incorrect, nor right or wrong; you are just being as you are. Here the Yi just is giving you information about your relationship - but it's not passing judgement, nor is it offering a recommendation as far as I can see.)

I hope that is of use to you.

Best, D

thanks D i came back here and reread and it is sp good

 

[TurtleDove1]

And so…how did it develop in the end?

 

[post-snow]

The statement for Hex 28 is, 'The ridgepole sags. Favorable where there is somewhere to go.'

If I turn the hexagram on it's side I can imagine that it's a ridgepole, a support beam at the top of your home: it is made to bend, to sag and warp; but it only has so much flexibility, and if bent too far it can break. So one meaning here is that you need to be flexible in your relationship with this other person, but you both also need to know when you're going too far - otherwise one of you, or the relationship, will break.

Looking at the trigrams as representing each of you:

Wind below: here you are being inquisitive, maybe exploring the possibilities of what this relationship is or can be. You might ask lots of questions, like 'how is this situation?'. One key idea here is you need to view the input you receive as information and then be willing to pay attention to the details of what you're seeing / feeling / hearing / sensing. It implies taking a gentle approach and of being open - and NOT approaching this with pre-conceived ideas of what's happening (especially if you, in fact, do not really know what's happening.)

Lake above: here the other person (he, she, they?) is mostly operating on a 'pleasure principle', where their main filter for how they see the relationship - and whether or not they think it's working - is: 'is this pleasurable, are we having a good time, do we get along, am I having (or still having) fun?' As an aside, I wonder, is it perhaps possible that this person is bringing the element of uniqueness to the relationship? (Just a thought.)

It might be useful for you - as part of your gentle exploration of your relationship - to also ask yourself: 'do I enjoy this relationship; does this person bring me joy (which might also include feeling safe, feeling accepted, etc.)'?

One thing that may be an obstacle or challenge for you is fear. Do you have some fear that this relationship is not working out? Or, are you letting your fear lead you to the conclusion that it's not working (when, in fact, it is working)? This fear may be present for the other person too, but I'm not entirely sure, so I focused on you (since it's your reading!).

(*** It's important to note that neither of you are correct or incorrect, nor right or wrong; you are just being as you are. Here the Yi just is giving you information about your relationship - but it's not passing judgement, nor is it offering a recommendation as far as I can see.)

I hope that is of use to you.

Best, D

redaing this again and it is apt even now, having too much fear could harm it

 

[post-snow]

And so…how did it develop in the end?

there is close friendship now. which might be best for both parties i guess. i wanted more romentic stuff whereas he wanted frienship, and do it did not develop into love relationship. he is, however, very helpful to me, gives me a lot of advice with my issues and we started some creative activities together so it is actually really nice. not as nice as love of corse

 

[Mylife]

28 is called Da Guo
Da means great
Guo means exceeding

The symbol of 28 has 2 interpretations: great and stop.

This gua suggests that the roof is about to fall and is time to go somewhere or to do something to remedy the situation.

This gua suggests a situation that is out of balance which requires an extraordinary action.
Because the situation is unusual not everyone can take such action. However one should stand alone with no fear. In this case one will be able to overcome this situation without suffering. And good fortune will follow.
In doing so one acts in accordance with the spirit of taking extraordinary actions in an extraordinary situation.
Taking action requires caution and to balance the yin and Yang. Not too much of something but keep it neutral and balanced.

I hope it helps you. You need to “translate” this to your current situation and to understand what actions you need to take. Be careful and balanced.

Good luck.

 

[post-snow]

28 is called Da Guo
Da means great
Guo means exceeding

The symbol of 28 has 2 interpretations: great and stop.

This gua suggests that the roof is about to fall and is time to go somewhere or to do something to remedy the situation.

This gua suggests a situation that is out of balance which requires an extraordinary action.
Because the situation is unusual not everyone can take such action. However one should stand alone with no fear. In this case one will be able to overcome this situation without suffering. And good fortune will follow.
In doing so one acts in accordance with the spirit of taking extraordinary actions in an extraordinary situation.
Taking action requires caution and to balance the yin and Yang. Not too much of something but keep it neutral and balanced.

I hope it helps you. You need to “translate” this to your current situation and to understand what actions you need to take. Be careful and balanced.

Good luck.

thabk you! need some time to process and apply this but it seems very interesting!