42.1.2 > 59 and 53.5 > 52 about an old friend

[erre_kz]

Hi guys,
I want to share with you some readings I made over a year ago.
Time has passed, but from time to time I still wonder what the meaning of those readings was and if I misunderstood.

Over a year ago, while I was suffering a lot for the situation with my ex bf, I had two consecutive dreams with almost the same content: my ex made me suffer all night because he was with another girl, I spent the night looking for him, but he almost didn't notice me and didn't even look at me, he was all after this other girl.
Generally, I dream a lot. But these two dreams, besides hurting me a lot, hit my attention because in both there was also the best friend of my ex, whom I met before meeting my ex.
We became friends and we can say that I came to meet my ex thanks to him, even if indirectly.
Before meeting my ex, we seemed to have a pretty strong connection, we used to talk of everything on the phone or chatting, and we were sweet and romantic in our conversation, considering the potential of something more between us.
Anyway, nothing ever happened, he was in a complicated situation with his ex gf at the time and I didn't want to complicate my life, so, when my ex bf asked me to go out with me, there was no problem in accepting, cause this friend was still involved with his ex, my ex already knew the "situation" between us (I like to be clear even in small matters) and above all we never brought this friendship to a higher level, we let it remain a friendship.
Then, when my ex and I fell in love and got together, me and his best friend remained friends but, obviously and rightly, we loosened our interactions, and, without going into details, the story ended with the total breaking of interactions between me and him.

So, coming back to my dreams, in both of them there was this guy who spent all night with me talking to me and trying to console me.
The day after the second dream I asked: " What is the meaning and the role of X in the dreams?"
I obtained 9.4> 1
A pretty simple and direct answer. His role in the dreams is to calm your anguish, your fears.

Very shaken by those dreams and the repeated presence of this person I decided to ask a few more questions.
The immediately following question I did was:
"Will there be a reapprochement between me and this person?"and I obtained 42.1.2> 59
It seemed to me a positive answer, especially reading here in the forum a similar question with the same result which ended with a reapprochement.

Another question was like "What's the destiny between us" and the answer 53.5> 52
"The wild goose gradually draws near the summit. For three years the woman has no child = in the end progress. Good fortune."
A wonderful line in my opinion, that I get almost never. A line that I've always craved for coming out about my ex, but it never came out, with my great displeasure.
This line went also out for my ex recently, asking if he will fall in love with another girl (I know I shouldn't ask for others....) and I threw 53.1.5> 22
Of course, he will. Never had a positive reading like this for me with him.. :'(

So time has passed by from those readings, some time more recently I tried to ask again about this old friend, but the casts weren't auspicious as the time went by.

Did I misunderstand something? Maybe I was too positive in believing in a reconnection (I am not thinking of a love story!)? Is it possible that after some very positive readings on something that, theoretically, still has to manifest and happen, the following readings becomes negative? Maybe it's not meant to be like I initially thought..maybe line 53.5 could be just a "wait and see" in regard to my question about "destiny".

 

[diamanda]

Will there be a reapprochement between me and this person?
42.1.2 > 59
I'm afraid I'll disagree with you on this one. From benefit we go to dissolution. Even if there is a reapproachment it will not end well. Based on my experience with this cast, there won't be a reapproachment.

What's the destiny between us?
53.5 > 52
In my experience, this means that the woman finally becomes happy, but with a different man. So, not with this old friend. Saying that, and since you're the woman here, it's good news for you - you will be happy with someone else eventually.

[my ex] if he will fall in love with another girl
53.1.5 > 22
Fall in love no. Resulting 22 is too superficial, so, no 'love' involved. However, he might have a child with someone. Their relationship will not be a proper one though, no real committment and no love.

 

[equinox]

Well, it is funny because I thought a lot about 53.5>52 and just recently I read almost every thread about 53.5 I could find in the archives. And indeed it's that there are some people -- no matter if it was about love or jobs or anything -- who got excactly what they wished for and others also got eventually what they wished for, but in another form: another dear lover, another great job, whatever. At the end they were all happy about the outcome. (Well as usual there were also some individuals that didn't update their thread, so I don't know about them )

So it could be with this man or with another -- no matter what, your wish for a deep commitment will be granted. If it's someone else, the one you're now worrying about will no longer play the role you once intended him to play. Even if that is hard to imagine for you now. So better try not to get stuck on thoughts of a future with him, rather visualize what you want in love, independently of a specific person. If it should be him then it will be him, don't worry. 53.5 is also talking about a destiny that nothing can prevent. You don't have to torture yourself for it now -- especially not if you got this auspicious line 53.5>52 as result.

I think sometimes I-Ching doesn't want us to know 100% how a thing will end up. Sometimes it also wants to teach us to trust and so that we can, it gives us a sweet outlook on the future without revealing too much. It may be more important for you to simply trust now than to have 100% security about that matter. Because maybe gaining this firm trust in a positive future is exactly the learning experience you need now, so that your (love) life takes the direction it should take.

 

[equinox]

This line went also out for my ex recently, asking if he will fall in love with another girl (I know I shouldn't ask for others....) and I threw 53.1.5> 22
Of course, he will. Never had a positive reading like this for me with him.. :'(

I believe, if at all, that I-Ching only allows us to know a limited amount about the affairs of third parties. I tend to think here, that the Yi wasn't talking about them, but again about you.

Is it possible that after some very positive readings on something that, theoretically, still has to manifest and happen, the following readings becomes negative?

I think if you ask very often, then the I-Ching no longer necessarily shows the big and whole result of an issue, but talks about partial aspects, intermediate stages -- or it reflects your current inner life more than saying something about the external events. (Although of course the two always belong together somehow)

 

[erre_kz]

Thank you Diamanda,

Will there be a reapprochement between me and this person?
42.1.2 > 59
I'm afraid I'll disagree with you on this one. From benefit we go to dissolution. Even if there is a reapproachment it will not end well. Based on my experience with this cast, there won't be a reapproachment.

Here I was basing my interpretation on this thread in particular
https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?7178-14-2-3-Is-this-for-our-highest-good
By the way, every situation is different from another, and I don't know how the situation evolved later for the girl.
Also, I never know how to take line 42.2.
This line has come out often in various situations, but often I can not see the benefits it promises, so I can't understand it to the end and I never rely too much on it, although it speaks of a fortune decreed from above and that nothing can prevent.
Sometimes it is difficult to understand what seem to be very positive lines in relation to hexagrams that perhaps indicate something else.

What's the destiny between us?
53.5 > 52
In my experience, this means that the woman finally becomes happy, but with a different man. So, not with this old friend. Saying that, and since you're the woman here, it's good news for you - you will be happy with someone else eventually.

I hope so...

[my ex] if he will fall in love with another girl
53.1.5 > 22
Fall in love no. Resulting 22 is too superficial, so, no 'love' involved (...) Their relationship will not be a proper one though, no real committment and no love.

Here I tend to disagree. Also because when I asked if there was another woman I got 22.1.5 > 53. So, 53 is always there and I think line 5 it's a strong message of love finally reached and says "nothing can prevent it". I see 22, in this specific context, as the sparkling and idealized side of love, but line 5 and 53 point to something that will grow deeper.

However, he might have a child with someone.

This definitely will kill me.. it's something too important. But we are not together, so it couldn't be otherwise..sooner or later it will happen..

 

[erre_kz]

Well, it is funny because I thought a lot about 53.5>52 and just recently I read almost every thread about 53.5 I could find in the archives. And indeed it's that there are some people -- no matter if it was about love or jobs or anything -- who got excactly what they wished for and others also got eventually what they wished for, but in another form: another dear lover, another great job, whatever. At the end they were all happy about the outcome. (Well as usual there were also some individuals that didn't update their thread, so I don't know about them )

So it could be with this man or with another -- no matter what, your wish for a deep commitment will be granted. If it's someone else, the one you're now worrying about will no longer play the role you once intended him to play. Even if that is hard to imagine for you now. So better try not to get stuck on thoughts of a future with him, rather visualize what you want in love, independently of a specific person. If it should be him then it will be him, don't worry. 53.5 is also talking about a destiny that nothing can prevent. You don't have to torture yourself for it now -- especially not if you got this auspicious line 53.5>52 as result.

I think sometimes I-Ching doesn't want us to know 100% how a thing will end up. Sometimes it also wants to teach us to trust and so that we can, it gives us a sweet outlook on the future without revealing too much. It may be more important for you to simply trust now than to have 100% security about that matter. Because maybe gaining this firm trust in a positive future is exactly the learning experience you need now, so that your (love) life takes the direction it should take.

Yes, I was reading too and it seems a very fortunate reading.
The "downside" is perhaps that it takes a long time and requires a lot of patience. Maybe I should just keep faith and go on with everyday life...
Really, it's not so important if it would be this man or another. My curiosity began with those two dreams and then influenced by these two readings and certainly by my "unhappy" situation. In fact I do not even know if I would feel comfortable in such a situation and if I would be really willing, being him a close friend of my ex, I don't want to think seriously of something more than a friendship.
Trusting in a positive future...it's a hard lesson for a negative person like me.

 

[erre_kz]

I think if you ask very often, then the I-Ching no longer necessarily shows the big and whole result of an issue, but talks about partial aspects, intermediate stages -- or it reflects your current inner life more than saying something about the external events. (Although of course the two always belong together somehow)

Yes, I noticed this thing over time .. sometimes it is difficult to understand especially if the reading speaks of a long enough time.

Thank you Equinox!

 

[diamanda]

Here I was basing my interpretation on this thread in particular
https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?7178-14-2-3-Is-this-for-our-highest-good
By the way, every situation is different from another, and I don't know how the situation evolved later for the girl.

Unfortunately it seems that they broke up again soon:
https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?9293-Our-relationship-abandoned

 

[erre_kz]

I see, I should have checked the developments..