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43.1.4 > 48 To go, or not to go.

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I asked the Yi "what if I do not go on this trip"? The repercussions of going are huge, and of cancelling are also huge. It is an expensive trip. If i do not go, i save money. I may or may not be cutting myself off from other information garnered from the trip itself...that part is unclear.

I have negative time left to actually decide so am seeking insights from the Yi.

I read the exploring divination threads on Hex 43 which gave significant insight. This is what I came up with:

Line 1: you may be stubborn, you are resisting. You may receive the truth but not hear it. Dont overestimate your resources or energy, wait until you're stronger. Be more prepared. (ie don't go).
Line 4: follow your instincts. You want to solve this but that's hard to do. (uhm??)

I"d guess the vote on the part of the Yi is to NOT go on the trip. Not going will create other problems but going is a problem in and of itself. I'm torn.

I welcome any other insight. To gain perspective and further information I asked another way
"What if I go on this trip?" And I got 45.2 > 47
I gather from reading that 45.2 means where there is inner connection there is success, and if it's missing you will feel alone. Being drawn is no mistake.
This issue is that I'm to go visit a partner who, bc of his recent behavior, I'm not sure if I should go see. I'm thinking over the ENTIRE relationship based on a smaller event that was significant to me. We spoke today and i felt that connection again just hearing his voice...but i was warned by family members after the incident not to go ... I'm trying to separate out - when do we forgive, when do we put our foot down etc. I'm hoping these hexes might show me...
 
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Hi Elizabeth,

Imo, trust your family. A relationship with the right person will add warmth and love to your family, not take away from it.

Here are a couple of archived threads with similar situations that may be of help. In this one about 43.1.4>48 the person decided not to go on the trip: http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?3981-Hex-43-Lines-1-and-4-to-Hex-48

In this one about 45.2>47 it was mixed results, part personally rewarding and part exhausting because of not fully being appreciated: http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?565-Clarification-45-2

Best, Iams
 

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This from Richter trans.

43.1 Going forth will bring no victory, but only harm.

43.4 You walk with difficulty. You lead a goat. Do not believe the words you hear.

45.2 auspicious to invite guests. No harm.

47. Oppression. ... the omen is auspicious for the great person. No harm Do not believe the words that are spoken.


I think that maybe it is saying don't go. And if you do go you will be 'leading a goat' that is dragging the part of you that knows better. It might be ok if you take someone with you (I don't know if this is part of the plan). But it says twice that you need to be careful about the words (persuading you to go) ... you mentioned speaking on the phone ... it might mean this.

Obviously this is a quick look only based on one translation which I am studying at the moment...so just some thoughts for you mull over.

Trust your own heart and judgement anyway ... which ever way you choose I hope it works out well for you.
 

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43.1...seems to be answering the question, "What if I do not go on this trip?" by saying, "Do not under any circumstances even think of going."

:confused: That seems like a really odd way for Yi to answer that question. Your question was about not doing something, and the line sounds like a lot of don't do it. It seems needlessly confusing, almost ridiculously so - which makes me wonder if that's actually not what it's saying.

An idea about it...if you go, must you go right now? I know you said you do ("I have negative time left to actually decide"), but the reason I'm asking is because the line might simply be saying to slow down.

"Vigour in the leading foot.
Going on without control means making mistakes."

That's from Hilary's book, and in her commentary she mentions the idea of itchy feet.

Having itchy feet doesn't necessarily mean that what you want to do is a bad idea. It might be a perfectly good idea - but you might be doing it too fast, under the wrong circumstances, or without some kind of needed preparation. Do you feel as if you have "go-itis" about this trip? Does something about it seem uncontrolled? Is anything less desirable than it could be, because it's being done at the last minute? Anything along those lines?

The other parts of your readings actually seem (to me) to support the idea of taking the trip. 45.2 seems really quite encouraging, in answer to the question, "What if I go?" I agree with your interpretation of it. (Your family has a different opinion, and they mean well with their advice, based on what they see and what they think is best for you, but they are not you, nor are they the oracle.)

From Hilary's book:

"Being drawn. Good fortune, no mistake.
With truth and confidence, it is fruitful to make the summer offering."

A "summer offering" (some translations use the words "spring offering") is an offering made before harvest time, in a state of uncertainty, when you don't have a lot to spare, and, therefore, at a time when an offering really means something. (It's much easier to make an offering after the harvest, from a place of utter security.) In your case, it could mean making a meaningful offering to your relationship, an investment perhaps, when you are still unsure what the "harvest" (the relationship's future) will be. It may also be referring to the fact that the trip is expensive, and would therefore be a financial offering. But nevertheless, it's full of really encouraging words: "good fortune," "no mistake," "fruitful."

Which leaves 43.4. Again, from Hilary's book:

"Thighs without flesh,
Moving awkwardly now.
Lead a sheep on a rope, regrets vanish.
Hear words, not trusted."

The question here was what if you don't go. The last part of the text can mean something like, "Your actions speak louder than your words." "Lead[ing] a sheep" was apparently a significant act in ancient China. It signalled surrender, sort of like waving a white flag (I suppose). Not that your trip is an act of surrender, but the point is that it's the action that speaks. Other phrases might be, "A picture is worth a thousand words," or "Show, don't tell."

The first part of the line describes wasting away, a difficult slog. Might your relationship get more difficult (or even wither?) if you don't take the action of going to see your partner?
 
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The question here was what if you don't go. The last part of the text can mean something like, "Your actions speak louder than your words." "Lead[ing] a sheep" was apparently a significant act in ancient China. It signalled surrender, sort of like waving a white flag (I suppose). Not that your trip is an act of surrender, but the point is that it's the action that speaks. Other phrases might be, "A picture is worth a thousand words," or "Show, don't tell."

That seems a little unclear...

What I was trying to say is that if you don't go, your act of not going would speak louder than your words, if your words are that you still care about the relationship. This could damage the relationship (the "thighs without flesh, moving awkwardly now" part).

That could tie into 45.2 like this - your words (that you care about the relationship) are less "credible" (Hilary on 43.4 in her book) if you don't back them up with the "offering" of taking the trip to see your partner.
 
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