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a fel in love and ofcourse would like to know if there is the possibility of having a relationship with this person.
"What can the IC tell me about the possibility of having a relationship with this guy"?
The answer was hex 45 unchanged which to me was a bit confusing because this guy in person lives on the land where people gather to gether as a temporary community. The answer 45 by its self sounds very just and clear and to the point but it didn't say something 'special' about -us-...

So I ask the question again and with the only difference that now I asked:
"What can the IC tell me about the possibility of having a loverelationship with this man.
And got hex 41.3.4 changing to 14
..?
 
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jesed

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Hi sings

Could you provide date and hour when you made the cast of 45 unchanged?

Best
 
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Just in case the comment could be useful

Using the Wen Wang Gua system to interpret Yijing's answers, we got that he may have strong feelings for another person.

Whether or not you could be strong enough to catch his eye, depends (according with this system) on the date when you tossed the coins.

If you tossed on October 7th or 8th in your local time, then seems very difficult to achieve your goal.

But if you tossed on October 6th, then you may be able to be active and creative, and that would reinforce your posibilities to gain his attention. And there would be a chance to achieve your goal.

Best wishes
 
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wauw!! what an interesting thing although it was today the 7th that I tossed the coins...

But jesed would it be possible that you explain a little bit more about how this works for I really have no idea. In what way you can 'read' a date in the Wen Wang Gua system?

kind regards,
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This system doesn't use the received text from the Yijing. Instead, it mixes the hexagrams with the stems and branches of the chinese calendar. (Stems and branches are the basis for diferent subjects in chinese metaphysic; like BA ZI or ZI WEI etc).

Every stem and every branch has it's own energy (see the 5 elements). From this energy, we can asign roles (father, mother, husband, wife, brothers/competitors etc), and dates.

I have found this system works better when you are only interested in the "prediction" face of the Yi and not so much on it's wisdom. When you don't want just a prediction, but insight... then the text-based system works better. But in most cases, you can reach similar conclusions with both methods. The diference is the accurate prediction (dates, roles, measures, quantities) with the wen wang system.

Best wishes
 

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Hex 45 is really about a platonic type of relationship, a general gathering of the clans so to speak, but in meeting with this person say in a club or restaurant or wherever, friends can indeed grow closer to each other over time.
A friendship requires a building of trust and sincerity towards one another, learning to be familiar with each other and this has the potential for growth in the relationship, achance for it to develop further.
So, as always, go with it and see where it takes you.
 

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thanks both jesed and willowfox for your insight.

jesed another question though. The Wen Wang Gua system is in the form of a book or a softwaretool? Sound interesting to take a look one time.
 
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Hi

Here is a very critic review from Harmen Mesker on najia books
http://www.biroco.com/yijing/najia.htm

I don't not totally agree with HM, but almost 96% ;)

There are some software about it; but is almost futile if you don't have the basis.

I would suggest Raymond Lo's book for a quick - and very basic- start. Alex's book has good insights, but also has huge mistakes. It is not easy to discern, if you don't have a good understanding from other fields in chinese metaphysics.

Best wishes
 

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