48.1.5>11.. oh , well !!!

[anemos]

hi all,

hope you can shed some light in the following reading.

there is a difficult situation that the last 3 days has turn very unpleasant so I asked Yi for an insight.

general diagnosis of the situation ( iow what is this?) 48.1.5>11

48.1 is the image of an old dry well. No use to expect to get some water. yet the relating hex and fan yao perplex me a bit. Also Brad's comment of now it the time to start digging adds more confusion.

What is this line about? Digging, trying to repair it is it wise or just a waste of time ?

48.5 is exactly the opposite image. A living well with fresh cold water. How refreshing !

Seems this readings says
a) there is a potential if you do some work on the well
or
b) forget about this old well and move on to a 48.5 one.

what do you think ?


I also asked a clarification "what is the best to do in regards to that situation, for my well being" and got 29.1> 60

I have tried in the past to mend this Well but with no positive results, and 29.1 maybe points up that its a dead end situation and maybe i should disengage myself from it (60). and this seems to be in accord with my Second interpretation of 48.1.5>11 , ie. forget about this old well and move on to a 48.5 one. I really want to resolve this situation , maybe I still work on it so i wonder if Yi' refers to that and warns not to do it, no stay in that pit ?

Would love to hear your ideas on those readings.

 

[hopex]

seems that where you are currently looking or how you are doing
is yielding nothing, on seeking new way/horizon the results are
vitalising and harmonious

 

[white owl]

Hi Anemos-

"Oh well" I have used this expression myself with this cast. I think the well has potiential but you may need a new bucket or draw from another angle..Could possibly just be the fact of going to deep has caused the limitation & hitting the mud. Try from the top first, skim over it.

 

[anemos]

thank you both for your responses, yet no sure what you mean when saying work on it.

Both 48.1 and 29.1 seems like a warning of really get stuck on that situation. Also H5 and 60.1 maybe propose no action at the moment. So, makes me wonder what is renewable here. Is there a potential that this situation will turn around or the change comes from me and the way I see it ?

there are other lines in H48 that talk clearer for a potential so I"m not sure what "potential" this line refers to.

In your experience, how this line worked ?

 

[white owl]

48.1 sometimes can mean that you are trying to hard..looking at it from the wrong angle or it is pointless. With your 29.1 you are going way beyond or trying to go beyond what the situation needs which you wont be able to get the clear water, its too muddy when you are trying to hard or using this approach that its telling you that there are too many limitations that surround that you cannot reach. Try an easier approach. Thats what I am getting with your reading.

 

[anemos]

Thank you

getting two different images of the well is quite confusing. still don't know what it means but will keep in mind your insight

 

[white owl]

Your welcome Take it easy.

 

[kevin]

Totally off the wall - but might be hlepful?

Gosh, this seems trite… I don’t mean it to be so… It is clearly a troubling situation.

As you say, "I have tried in the past to mend this Well but with no positive results"
You can’t pull a bucket up the well from a different angle very easily… so let’s look at the well from a different angle.

I would ordinarily see line one here as something in the situation which is bogged down and not sustaining the ‘whatever it is’. And yes, the answer in brief is to fix it so that the ‘whatever it is’ can draw on its inner source of clear water. Currently it is bogged down and muddy, your repair work has been of no use. Seems to be bogging you down too… not surprised.

So – Looking at this from another angle, pulling the well apart a bit to see what's wrong in there:

Taking the Core hexagram 38 as the stimulus to the situation: Diverging, Splitting Apart, Conflict. The inference here is to avoid conflict.

Taking line 1 the roots of the tree (lower trigram Xun) which draw up good things to sustain ‘whatever it is’… They’re damaged, failing. They are also too charged to function. They are changing into a Yang line and with it the energy which supports this ‘whatever it is’ will become inspired, filled with energy (Qian).


If this line alone changes then Hx.5 – Rain… Wait for the releasing rain?. Its got to be good when the well was useless.


Taking line 5 as the expression of ‘whatever it is’ in the outer world... A clear cool well from which others gain (?emotional) sustenance... Notice it is in the middle of trigram Dui - Lake, reflections, communication, sharing and joy. Also of the Shamaness calling down fertility for her people and the land, by dancing. Has the ‘whatever it is’ been supporting those around in some important way? This too is a changing line, a line too charged to carry its weight... It is changing… the top trigram is going to become earth, the well filled in… no water for the roots (line one) that fed this situation when it was healthy. But perhaps a fertile place?

But if the outer world situation could become a fertile place and if the inner drive of the situation could become creative, energised, inspired (Qian), then with the changes 11 Peace is restored.

Is it saying give up on the well, you might as well wait for the releasing rain (Hx.5) and fill the hole in? – Then you will have peace?

Or

Make the situation fertile and pour inspiration and creativity into it? – 11 A fertile place inspired by creativity?

29.1 is a straight warning - Don't fall into the hole - get out of there! ( I guess don't try to fix the well) - Make the crossing to the new time. (As outlined in the Relating Hexagram of your well?)

Bother - I doubt this will help - Sorry.

 

[anemos]

it helps a lot Kevin !!! Brings a lots of images in my mind and I understand better images

29.1 is simple - Don't fall into the hole - get out of there ( I guess don't try to fix the well) - Make the crossing to the new time.

I guess you are right. Haven't found a different way to read this line so to me also the messages seems to be "get out of it".It really bogging me down, as you said

So – Looking at this from another angle:


Taking the Core hexagram 38 as the stimulus to the situation: Diverging, Splitting Apart, Conflict. The inference here is to avoid conflict.

Taking line 1 the roots of the tree (lower trigram Xun) which draw up good things to sustain ‘whatever it is’… They’re damaged, failing. They are also too charged to function. They are changing into a Yang line and with it the energy which supports this ‘whatever it is’ will become inspired, filled with energy (Qian).


That makes me think that the 48.1 well is me. Dryed up, too charged. Nothing to give more to that situation. So the only way to fill in that well is the h5 rain , the inspiration. I doubt that the other part involved they are going to be that source , we will see.



Taking line 5 as the expression of ‘whatever it is’ in the outer world... A clear cool well from which others gain (?emotional) sustenance... Notice it is in the middle of trigram Dui - Lake, reflections, communication, sharing and joy. Also of the Shamaness calling down fertility for her people and the land, by dancing. Has the ‘whatever it is’ been supporting those around in some important way? This too is a changing line, a line too charged to carry its weight... It is changing… the top trigram is going to become earth, the well filled in… no water for the roots (line one) that fed this situation when it was healthy. But perhaps a fertile place?

yes it has, in the past. Nowdays no. Seems the lake disappears and what remains is that fertile place. This angle is very helpful .


But if the outer world situation could become a fertile place and if the inner drive of the situation could become creative, energised, inspired (Qian), then with the changes 11 Peace is restored.

yes, i see your point and I feel 11 needs both. Earth meets heaven.


Is it saying blow the well up and then fill the hole in? – and then you will have peace?


Or make the situation fertile and pour inspiration and creativity into it? – 11 A fertile place inspired by creativity?

tThat's my dilemma ! And makes me think what 29.1 means, and it begs the question Which is the pit-like thoughts , the first one or the second? An answer I don't have got yet.





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(If this line alone changes then -->43 – It splits the whole situation, blows the situation up… (Dynamite the well?) But only if this change happens out of sinc. with line 5 - both need to be in sync.

I'm not sure where the 43 comes from. How 48.1 becomes 43 ?


thanks again for your help. Hex 11 and 60 didn't resonate a lot .something was missing. I start from the relating hex and couldn't found the way back to them. Your words helped on that too.

 

[kevin]

I am so glad it helped.

"I'm not sure where the 43 comes from. How 48.1 becomes 43 ?"

I have corrected the error. Pleased you spotted it.

Wishing you well with this.

 

[anemos]

thanks , saw the corrections. Give up , blow up not big difference .

 

[kevin]

Embarrassed

 

[anemos]

No, you shouldn't

actually this little mistake help in its own way, so thanks for that too !!!!