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Hello again all
Some help needed please. My question to 'Y' was "Please tell me the best way for 'M' (my son) to get on his life path and received 48.5 > 46. I then asked "how can I help him to do this?" answer 59.6>29.
Some background: He is an ex addict, working in a soul destroying job for the minimum wage and is in debt. He works very hard (I know this is true because he does jobs for me sometimes and he never stops) He has a helper who is helping sort out his debts but he is getting so depressed getting nowhere. He has a degree in ceramics but no money to start up on his own which he would like to do.
I help out sometimes with food and money but I have little to spare. 59.6 seems to say leave him but can it really mean that? Would some-one help please. Thank you in advance.:confused:
 
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I am not sure if I can help but I will give it a go based on your casting
48.5 has a definite renewing rejuvenating feel to it. Almost as if your son has the ability to really feel well and positive deep within himself. He may not be able to fully access it at the moment but he has the power to do this. It does not necessarily need anyone to make him change. The change to 46 requiring effort and perhaps help makes me think he needs to move off somewhere - a new town or even country maybe with your help. This is the 56 perhaps? The positive thoughts you had regarding your help to your son could be in this direction - not money or food - more inspiration and ideas He has the means of surviving himself - the clear waters of the well and just needs you to draw it up and send him out on a new path.

It is incredibly difficult when asking about our children. We sometimes get foggy images of our part in their lives. I think though this is a lovely reading and I hope that you both move forward on this
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Sorry just wanted to add that the help you have given in the past - money food etc has obviously not been entirely successful. I think hex56.6 to 29 indicates that help if this kind will only lead to repeated issues of debt for him. Look at help from a different angle perhaps
 

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Hi butterfly_spider, meigga,

not be nitpicky, but meiggas second reading actually was 59.6, not 56.6. This is a bit different, even though the reading seems ambigous. I have found the following interpretation which I think is interesting:
"The idea of the dissolving of a man's blood means the dispersion of that
which might lead to bloodshed and wounds, i.e., avoidance of danger. But
here the thought is not that a man avoids difficulties for himself alone, but
rather that he rescues his kin-helps them to get away before danger comes, or
to keep at a distance from an existing danger, or to find a way out of a danger
that is already upon them. In this way he does what is right." (Akira Rabelais)

This to me means that you should continue to help your son and protect him from danger (further emphasized by 29). Is there anything that you right now percieve as a real and immediate threat for him - bad influences, depression etc. ? If so I think the reading says to keep him away from this as good as possible.

Hope this helps

maui
 
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Sorry - it's my glasses ..
Ok. The reading is telling you to continue helping - but my first thoughts that he has his own resources to help himself still stand although of course you can be a guide for him. The sense of moving away from danger - yes
The repeated danger 29 was to do with you helping him - which you have done with money and food etc. I still think that the casting is saying that your son needs help in other ways from you

I always get a bit confused myself when I ask 2 questions in the same thread. One about someone else and the other about myself. Sometimes the two answers get muddied.

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yes, I agree with this - it is confusing to have 2 different questions, especially, since they are both essentially around the same question (how can meiggas son find a better place in life). I know that there are diverging opinions on this board as to whether you can/should ask about someone else and I respect both opinions. For myself, I don't aks questions for others, I feel that I am lacking crucial information about a person not myself.... I'd rather try and encourage the person to ask for themselves, and try and help with the answer.
BTW, I agree that 48.5 -> 46 is a beautiful reading, and quite encouraging.
HTH
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He has a degree in ceramics

What is ceramics? Is your son truly artistic? Does he propose to make utilitarian pots, mugs, and plates or art objects that express the individuality of the customer and himself?
 
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I have just been swimming outdoors for about an hour - and I always think things when I do. I have an issue with my own daughter and it is easier to sometimes concentrate on something else

I have been thinking of your question(s)
I think Maui is right in that there is an element of danger here
However a well is by its very nature dangerous. I think your son who is
Deep within the well is certainly in a dark place but can see the light at
The top. Within the well new water keeps bubbling and the energy within himself will allow him to get to the surface - push him upwards. Notice that hex 46 is about pushing - not pulling. Something within the well or himself will get him out of the deep
Hole. I think your son will move upwards


Which brings me to your involvement. Because you are there - possibly at the top if the well and therefore visible to your son - you can help him by acting as a guide to the surface - making sure that the small ceramic pit doesn't get broken or damaged. You can't go into the well to get him or the water out - that would be dangerous to you and yet you can help keep things safe until the water surfaces. The double danger (hex 29) represents the danger you and your son are in perhaps. You can't provide the water (that is your sons responsibility) but you can make sure it is safe

Just my thoughts and best wishes
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Thankyou

Thankyou all so much. I have not been able to sign in earlier but I will re-read all and talk tomorrow. I have seen my son this evening and given him something uplifting to read. Must re-read all your comments and reply later. Pocossin: ceramics is making things from Clay, he is very good at it (unusual items) and did obtain a Master's degree at college. :bows:
 
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It's funny that when I think if a well I have an image of a dusty village with reddish earth. The well is in the market place and has a ceramic pot. Rather like the mosaic patterned ones - turquoise yellow reddish patterns. There was one in Majorca when I visited as a child. The wells in this country tend to be more hidden - and are more in remote areas where the springs come up. There is one in a village in Berkshire that is privately owned but allowed passers-by access for water. They had a ceramic jug although the bucket was made of metal
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Thankyou butterfy spider, what a lovely name by the way.
My son makes very large plant pots with all sorts of images etc. smaller things too. when I can get some photos, I'll post them here. Your remarks on this are intriguing. X
 

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I have written a long reply which has somehow vanished. Don't know what I did wrong. Try again tomorrow.
 

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dear butterfly spider and maui. sorry for the delay in answering. I visited my son on Monday, he had nothing at all to eat (Ihad brought him food) so we ate together. even tho' he was hungry and without money he was pleasant to me - he often isn't! He also admitted that some of his ideas were wrong and that he intended to change them (another first) we talked about life in general and he actually offered me some advice on an area that I am concerned in. He came the following day, did a lot of gardening without payment and I feel that at last he is coming out of, what could be the well. Most importantly: He is down from over 100 mls (Meth) to 18mls, so that is very pleasing. Thankyou both so much, especially for your aggreement that 48.5 to 46 was a lovely Hex. I think the Hex 29 was the danger of depression. I shall continue with my help and thankyou both once again.
 

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p.s. He has also drawn an amazing picture of something that a friend wants to put on a Pub, for which he will probably be paid.:)
 

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Hi meigga,

thanks for the update!. Its good to hear that your son is doing better, which seems like a reflection of 48.5 --> 46.
best wishes

maui
 
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Thank you so much for the update
Indeed it cannot be a coincidence. I have just been swimming in the same water as I was when you first asked the question. I had posted a reply about imagery earlier today and just now beneath the murky waters thought of my response to you and your situation. I am sitting on the bank and looking at my phone when your
Thread popped up.
I am so glad that things are feeling good. Moments when we can feel connected to our children should be treasured and it helps when things are not so. Your casting was good I thought and I have this image in my head of those beautiful mosaic pots.

Much love
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Hopeful info

Dear Butterfly Spider
Thankyou so much for your message. I may have some very hopeful news. Last week I joined a woodcarving class. I did a carving many years ago and have only just heard of this class. The teacher in conversation told me that the school has a roomful of ceramic tools etc. and no-one to teach it. I told him about my son and he has promised to find out some details for me. My son at present is teaching a class of ex-addicts for one afternoon each week and is apparently doing well, the students seem very interested and attend regularly. so Keep Fingers crossed!! Keep enjoying your swimming !!
Much love, Annie
 
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Wonderful nees

This is really good news and the very positive e reading you had for your son is now coming to fruition

Thank you for your update and keep in touch
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Dear Meigga,

Gosh, I'm sure everyone who reads this thread is sending your son love and light. There was a time when my first husband was in the hospital and many people told me they were praying for us and at first I just shrugged it off like that was a sweet thing to say, but so what? In the days that followed however there were so many unusual coincidences and miracles I came to recognize that prayer and sending light does something real. So I hope you will continue to send us updates and let him know he has a cheering squad visualizing him strong and successful.

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Thank you

Dear sweet and kind people
You are so kind and helpful (and encouraging) You make me cry. Thankyou all so much for your good wishes, He doesn't have a lot of encouragement and I am quite sure that your good wishes will help him, I haven't told him about my questions to 'Y' but I will have to find a diplomatic way to let him know about your good wishes, They will all help whether he knows about them or not. I will keep you posted and thankyou once again. with love Meigga
 

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