49,2,5> 34 and 11,3,5,6> 61

[SHONNA_D]

The situation is so complicated and I feel so pessimistic. I asked 2 last questions and I will stop because I think it drives me crazy but please I need your help.

* Will everything between us be destroyed?
Hexagram 49 changing lines 2,5 to 34
A big change is happening (a big change is going to happen in his life and then he will think about us) and 34 entanglement or a strong bond between us?

* Will he give up with us?
Hexagram 11 changing lines 3,5,6 to hexagram 61
Do not complain, marriage and the wall falls (the wall that keeps towards me?).
61 inner truth.

I am not sure about the interpretations. Do you see any hope here or am I waiting in vain?

 

[SHONNA_D]

(oh...I received the same answer 49,2,5/34 last year when I had asked if I will have relationship in 2018. So I'm still waiting to see how the answer is going to play out)

 

[diamanda]

Hi Shonna,

Will everything between us be destroyed? 49.2.5 > 34
Totally agree with you that "a big change is happening". The situation as it stands will change completely, but it will take some time, not yet. So in a way yes, the current situation will be destroyed, however in a way that is beneficial for you.

if I will have relationship in 2018, 49.2.5 > 34
Yes, for sure. Not immediately, it will take some time. Combined with the answer above, I believe that most possibly you will meet someone new. In any case you will have a man (34).

Will he give up with us? 11.3.5.6 > 61
11.3 says he still has feelings for you. 11.5 says that you might get together again. But I'm afraid that 11.6 is a bad line, it shows a final ending. Maybe you will give up. No matter who gives up, do not worry as you'll find someone better.

 

[SHONNA_D]

Diamanda, I am wondering... The city wall of hexagram 11 could be the "wall" (limitation) of distance that separate us? There is distance between us and the "big change" will be that he is going to change city closer to me.. Any ideas?

 

[diamanda]

There is distance between us and the "big change" will be that he is going to change city closer to me.. Any ideas?

No it's definitely not that. There is no 'move' in 11.6. Someone stays exactly where they are, in their own city, and what's more, the protective wall collapses. It's a bad line, I had disastrous results with this line in the past, including in relationship matters.

 

[SHONNA_D]

It's strange as we always talk about the wall that he has towards me and he insists that this wall is to protect him because he has been hurt in the past from people and situations. Moreover, he told me that the wall may fall when he finally move and the big change happen. Could it be the answer so literal ?

 

[diamanda]

That wall you are describing sounds like the separating wall from 13.4.
The collapse of 11.6 is bad, it shows a bad end.
The answer says nothing about moving city (that would be line 42.4, or 14.2, and so on).

we always talk about the wall that he has towards me and he insists that this wall is to protect him because he has been hurt in the past from people and situations.

That's one of the most classic men's excuses.

"I can't be with you because..."
-- "I've been hurt in the past"
-- "I'm confused"
-- "I'm too busy"
-- "I need to sort out my head"
-- "I've got issues from childhood"
etc etc etc ad nauseam.

 

[SHONNA_D]

You may be right. Perhaps 11.6 is as bad as you write me. Do you think that Iching could help me to avoid this bad end?

 

[diamanda]

Sorry but I don't think the I Ching can help you. From what I can see in your previous threads, you got advice to not run after him, which, however, you did, so it's now not going well. Then you got advice to accept the fact that there's another woman, but it seems the thought had not even crossed your mind, let alone to accept such a thing. It's also obvious that he's selling you cheap excuses, but again you just blindly believe him. Given how bad he has already behaved to you, what are the chances of he falling desperately in love with you and being faithful in the future?

You wrote in another thread that you really want to make a family and have children. If you truly want that, please think pragmatically and realistically. Your ex will never give you that, or even if you manage to achieve that, it will end in divorce. Please think - is this really worth putting your efforts in? How much time do you want to waste in a bad situation? You won't be fertile forever. Please reconsider your actions.

 

[SHONNA_D]

I guess I am too innocent and also I love him which makes the things so difficult for me.
You are so sure that there is another woman. Really, I will try to find it out.

I am surprised that you mentioned that even if I marry him it will end to divorce. Can you see that?

I won't write that I don't agree with you. I have read a lot of your posts here and I admire your knowledge.

 

[suryauday]

Question no.1:- Will everything between us be destroyed? 49.2.5 > 3449.2.5 states that you need to change your thought process and if your do so it will have a positive impact. I would like to sum up by saying that sometime silence can say better than words.Question no.2:- Will he give up with us? 11.3.5.6 > 61:-Iching is all about symbolic language. 11.3 is that life is full of happy and difficult moments so you are passing through a rough patch in life. 11.5 is that your thought process is humbled but 11.6 states that you cannot do much in this situation and the resulting image of 61 states your inherent nature will ultimately prevail over the situation. iCHING TELLS YOU THE RESULTS OF YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS AT THE TIME WHEN YOU ARE ASKING A QUESTION SO YOU CAN DECIDE WHETHER YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS IS CORRECT OR NOT. ACCORDINGLY YOU SHOULD TAKE ACTION. SO AS NUMBER OF TIMES YOU ASK YOU GET A DIFFERENT ANSWER AS YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS/STATE OF MIND CHANGES.These are my views/interpretations. I have been doing Iching for the past 10 years and tried to develop my own interpretations based on my readings/observations/results that I get.

 

[diamanda]

iCHING TELLS YOU THE RESULTS OF YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS AT THE TIME WHEN YOU ARE ASKING A QUESTION

This statement is not true, according to my experience.

 

[diamanda]

You are so sure that there is another woman. Really, I will try to find it out.

Sorry to say Shonna, but you got 54 with changing lines a couple of times already, and in relationships it pretty much always means another woman. Where I got the divorce notions from - 11.5 = marriage, 11.6 = divorce after marriage. I do hope you'll find the big strong guy (34) very soon - your ex or whoever else, as long as you're happy with someone nice.

 

[SHONNA_D]

Diamanda, I I think you might be right about hexagram 54. After our last time that we met, I asked: will he come closer to me? The answer was hexagram 54 changing lines 3 and 5 to hexagram 43. I tryed to just forget this answer.. but after your posts I am full of suspicions. line 54.3 again and line 5 which shows 2 women.. one that he likes very much but he finally is getting married the other one. Of course I asked him and he said there is no other woman.

 

[diamanda]

Yes I know, men almost never admit they have cheated. However it's a good sign (that he said no), because even if he did cheat, it shows that he still wants to keep you around. It's a sad fact of life that the vast majority of men cheat, even if they eventually stay with the (endlessly patient...) wife. Bah.