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springflower

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A question came to mind...
"What do I have to expect from my relationship with my ex fiance?"
I asked immediately I ching and the answer was 49.3>17

A lot of discussions... and following.. following what?
(Wish I ching was easier to interpret , we are not all experts :( )
 

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Well Hexagram 49 is about a big change/revolution... and I am assuming if he is you ex-fiance something big had to occur for you guys not to be together. Hex 17 (following) probably has to do with your mind state-- are you still following him, maybe not physically, but maybe wondering what he's doing, checking to see where he's at, following him on tweeter/facebook... etc. The line is probably making it clear that the 'change' that has occurred is here to stay, maybe you have discussed it many times and it's finally sinking in, so probably there is no more change possible at this point. Anyhow, hope all gets better for you and good luck.
 
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Dear Juaneros thank you for answering. It could be an answer but I am not sure.
The line says: When talk of revolution has gone the rounds three times, one may commit himself, and men will believe him.
Who will commit himself? The thing is we have no communication... I tryed to change the situation by talking. Nothing changed then I stopped.
I am thinking a lot of interpretations. May you have right, probably there is no more change possible.. or there will be new discussions.. and he will undertake something. We will see...
Anyway, I don't have it interpretating IC!
 

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Hi Springflower,

I'm not an expert, but I thing I can help you somehow.

As Juanero told you, Hx49 talks about change. However this change has not arrived yet (you have to wait for this change to be real after this is proclaimed 3 times). Line 3 is a strong line and wants to act, but has gone over the center. So, don't rush, don't force a change now, be patient. Let things follow (Hx17) as they are now, the time for action is about to come.

Txortx
 
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Dear txortx, Thank you for taking the time to answer me. I will follow your advice. I won't do anything just waiting for whatever has to be. Anyway, I can't understand the "3 times, or 3 words or whatever" what i ching means..
 
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Springflower: this is rather a general question.
What to expect? in what regard? in which situation?
It does say that "going" is unfortunate but without a more specific reference point, it is hard to interpret.
"Reform is declared three times before there is confidence." : any changes in your relationship, whether on his part or yours or both, must be tested in order to be solid.
Also: if you are asking the question because of anxiety that you may be losing your fiancé, remember that the iching usually directs you to take charge of your own life and to make the choices best for you.
So it may be more precise to ask something that you are in control of, like "how shall I deal with my anxiety that I may lose my fiancé" . Just an idea.
 

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Hi again,

maybe there is something in you that needs to be changed and you need to show your fiance that you have really changed (simbolically, three times) for him to beleive in you again. I think that Hx49 talks about internal changes in yourself in order to achive the revolution.

I received this Hx and line in a different situation. I had a bad time with one of my coworkers at the office and one day I decided to follow a non-confrontation path and try to recover peace between us. It was a time where my intentions were at a test, and it had to pass some time for the other person to beleive that I have really changed. Now our relationship is excellent and easy.

I hope this helps you somehow.

Txortx
 
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Dear loverofknowledge, I thought about your recommendation for the question and I asked " will I stop being anxious?" 26.1 26.4 > 50
Stop of any action. Restraint of the evil before it grows up. This is what I do.. so I hope hex 50 shows success.

And one more question.. what is he going to do because I don't contact him? 18.5> 57
That seems very good answer... he may undertake to work on what has been spoiled in our relationship... I hope so...
 

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Hi Springflower,

So, you think it's him the person that needs to fix thing up rather than you? I think that you can also see Hx18.5 as he thinking that you are fixing what was wrong in the pass and you are doing it the right way, because you are the one that is not trying to contact him anymore.

Hx50 may be just an answer telling you that this is the spiritual transformation you have to go through. It's like a sacrifice to fix all this situation.

However I'm not sure if "fixing" means that you are going to be together again or that you have to follow your own separated paths.

Hx 18 is always difficult to me.

Txortx
 
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Either way it seems 18.5> 57 auspicious. I have asked a lot of times about our reconciliation. A couple of days ago I asked if the positive answers of reconciliation will be fulfilled.. I received hex 45 uc. I answered it as yes but I am the type of person who doesn't trust easy. I have lost my hopes anyway.

But I have a hope that this month our situation is goin to be clear.
http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?22568-36-4-6-gt-30
 
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Hi Springflower,
Perhaps the Iching is telling you about your anxiety over your relationship.
26.1.4 -- there is great power (your power to love and to make a life with somebody, in marriage)
yet it must be accumulated, and held back for now (because your ex-fiance is not ready or is not the proper mate for you at this time.... or something like that).
You are anxious (maybe) because you want things to move forward.
21.1 warns of danger if you move forward without thought Ask yourself inwardly, does this resonate for you?
21.4 tells you to hold back, for now, so that your strength may be directed wisely, once you do move forward.
Does this make sense to you? Just accept what makes sense. The iching is guiding you to your own choices and freedom, like a wise friend.
50 is a hexagram that I received recently. It has to do with inner transformation and maturity.
Although your anxiety over your relationship may be difficult, you are changing inwardly, and you will come away not only stronger but wiser, which will give you good fortune.
How does this feel to you?
 
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You are absolutely right loverofknowledge. I believe that I will be stronger and wiser after that... I have to learn to control my feelings.
The thing is my only desire was to have a stable relationship with mutual love and trust. Life it's so hard. Hope to recover soon I don't deserve it.
 
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Hexagram 50: Cauldron
Statement: Cauldron. Great fortune. Continue.

Even though it is hard for you now, continue and you will have great fortune. It is never a loss to love and to have loved. You will find happy love, if that is what you want. Keep the faith. And be strong.
 

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