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Hello everyone,

I joined Clarity over a year ago and enjoyed many of the insights and discussions posted on the site. However, only recently have I been compelled to share a reading. Here's the deal:
I recently consulted the Yi in regards to my 4th attempt at procuring my driving licence (I know...its been like Groundhog Day in many respects, :brickwall: without the luxury of being the entertained spectator!). The test is due in mid January next year. To my question, What shall I expect in my next driving test? I was answered: 47 Oppression; 3.5.6. -> 64 Before Completion. Although I was particularly amazed at the accuracy and effectiveness of the reading I obtained, a true "WOW" moment when the oracle just hits the nail on the head, there is a passage (i'm using Wilhelm's translation predominantly) I wish I had more insight into which I feel I'm only partly understanding, but compelled to know more about. The verse is as follows:

47; 6 in the 3rd
"A man permits himself to be oppressed by stone
and leans on thorns and thistles.
He enters his house and does not see his wife.
Misfortune"


Now, how I read the first half, to me, is fairly straightforward: the triviality (in a sense) of this worldly hurdle (test/stone) is part of the issue, and Ive been letting a relatively small affair get to me in an unnecessarily deep way which has recursively led to more anxieties and blocks as well as financial and practical losses. Each failure has not made me stronger but progressively more vulnerable and I've exerted more pressure on myself at each attempt (character flaw). Surprisingly, my driving is pretty good, but my main hurdle has been my attitude and during a period where I've felt increasingly overwhelmed by responsibility and always put to the test with time against me (the test, the birth of my 2nd child and dissertation deadline all fall in Jan), I've pretty much frozen in moments where I've needed to act and get on with material things. The Yi confirmed all of this and more.

Where I seek clarification is mainly the final line of this verse about the "wife", as well as any additional insights on the hexagrams in question. This particular line intuitively jumped out at me but I still don't have a clear understanding of what it means to me yet. Any help would be immensely appreciated

Thank you in advance

Ganesha
 

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On an additional note, I previously performed a casting (3days ago) about my general situation and my upcoming responsibilities (including the test, second child, university etc. see above). Interestingly I received 64 unchanging which coincides with the relating hexagram in my second reading. The way in which the Yi directly connected the two consecutive questions under the larger process/movement of hexagram 64 is quite remarkable. All the other changing lines were also very to the point. The only mysterious missing piece to the puzzle to me is the passage above (47. 6 in the 3rd)...
 

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Hello everyone,

I joined Clarity over a year ago and enjoyed many of the insights and discussions posted on the site. However, only recently have I been compelled to share a reading. Here's the deal:
I recently consulted the Yi in regards to my 4th attempt at procuring my driving licence (I know...its been like Groundhog Day in many respects, :brickwall: without the luxury of being the entertained spectator!). The test is due in mid January next year. To my question, What shall I expect in my next driving test? I was answered: 47 Oppression; 3.5.6. -> 64 Before Completion. Although I was particularly amazed at the accuracy and effectiveness of the reading I obtained, a true "WOW" moment when the oracle just hits the nail on the head, there is a passage (i'm using Wilhelm's translation predominantly) I wish I had more insight into which I feel I'm only partly understanding, but compelled to know more about. The verse is as follows:

47; 6 in the 3rd
"A man permits himself to be oppressed by stone
and leans on thorns and thistles.
He enters his house and does not see his wife.
Misfortune"


Each failure has not made me stronger but progressively more vulnerable and I've exerted more pressure on myself at each attempt (character flaw). Surprisingly, my driving is pretty good, but my main hurdle has been my attitude and during a period where I've felt increasingly overwhelmed by responsibility and always put to the test with time against me (the test, the birth of my Now, how I read the first half, to me, is fairly straightforward: the triviality (in a sense) of this worldly hurdle (test/stone) is part of the issue, and Ive been letting a relatively small affair get to me in an unnecessarily deep way which has recursively led to more anxieties and blocks as well as financial and practical losses.2nd child and dissertation deadline all fall in Jan), I've pretty much frozen in moments where I've needed to act and get on with material things. The Yi confirmed all of this and more.

Where I seek clarification is mainly the final line of this verse about the "wife", as well as any additional insights on the hexagrams in question. This particular line intuitively jumped out at me but I still don't have a clear understanding of what it means to me yet. Any help would be immensely appreciated

Thank you in advance

Ganesha


I underlined that sentence since I think it may show something of 47.5 in the reading. You use the word 'trivial' and demands from the chap in red trousers can seem trivial....but you have to offer him precisely what he asks for. If you think about it nothing to do with driving is trivial. Being in command of a large hunk of metal at xxx miles an hour amongst other hunks of metal doing the same is never a trivial affair is it ? The stakes are always high...life and death. I passed a serious accident on the motorway yesterday involving big trucks, the driver lying in the road...and I was thinking sadly that someone's dad/lover/brother/son wasn't coming home later.


I'm taking the answer in quite a concrete way. What did you fail on ? The 47.5 may appear as if you aren't demonstrating enough care or precision with the theoretical side of it...I mean the part where they quiz you on road rules etc. I don't know how it is where you are and mine was long ago but I do recall the test as a deadly serious affair, and I did pass first time.

The 47.3 is about looking for support where there is none. I wonder if you need to be a whole lot clearer about what it is in particular your are failing on ? 47.3 might show you placing effort or care in the wrong area ?

47.6 is great here. All that holds you back is fears and so on....and also I wonder if oyu put too much emotion into it when what is required is clear and precise knowledge of the highway code or whatever its called now.

Interestingly the yang change pattern (pattern changing lines make) is 53, gradual progress, so it looks as if you will get there it just takes time, as you have seen. The yin pattern is 50, cooking...so it's important what ngredients you put in the pot.


So generally I agree with you in that you have gotten too kind of emotionally involved in what is really a situation where emotion isn't required, but careful attention is. I'm even wondering if the 47.5 shows you need to demonstrate the examiner that you are serious in some way. I mean you can't give them any hint of an impression that you think any of it is trivial. I mean whether you think it or not, don't show it.

The way people drive sometimes, talking on their phones. etc while doing 80 mph anyone would think they were sitting in their own lounge at home. I think in a test they'll want to see you take road safety seriously, as I'm sure you do...just maybe you have to demonstrate it more ?


64, nothing in it's rightful place yet - not passed test yet. Hmmm if you feel very unready you might delay it if you cannot give it the attention it needs ? My impression from your writing is you feel you can't afford the attention....If you can't then delay it till a time you can.


Now, how I read the first half, to me, is fairly straightforward: the triviality (in a sense) of this worldly hurdle (test/stone) is part of the issue, and Ive been letting a relatively small affair get to me in an unnecessarily deep way which has recursively led to more anxieties and blocks as well as financial and practical losses.

I think, paradoxically, that if you see this 'worldly affair' as less trivial than you do, it will, strangely, make it seem much less heavy, get on with it and pass, as 47.6 shows.




 

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BTW I understand you didn't mean to say it was trivial in itself but relatively trivial.

Then again if I think of the impact my degree had on my life as compared to the impact learning to drive had on my life, learning to drive wins hands down.

The reason I was stressing the importance of not viewing it as trivial was that sense of priorities not being in the quite the right place perhaps which I see in 47.3 and possibly hex 64.

47.3 is quite sharp....it's a warning not to look for support (the wife) where there actually isn't any. Somewhere in the question you misjudged where your support is. So, as driving is a great support as a skill to have I thought by not giving it full attention you weren't nourishing that....whereas if you can give it more attention there are no obstacles there (47.6).
 

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First, I want to point out that 47.3.5.6 leads to 50 (Cauldron).
Second, trojan can you please explain the yin pattern?
upd: Ok got it, so here it will be 53 (yang) and 54 (yin, inverse of the 53).

I've passed three driving tests myself: car, truck and a bus.
The first one, driving a car, I passed only on the 3rd try, because the driving courses here in Russia are simply too short, only 1.5 month which is great for theory, but practice is limited to 14-18 lessons.
I failed the 'city' part of the exam 2 times, both times for something simple.

I know it's painful to try to conform to the strict rules, one error too many and you fail (47.5). And nobody cares about you as a person. Also in Moscow, nobody drives perfectly, I mean even the Police and Road Safety Inspection break the rules(there are some good drivers, but not all of them). And you are slowly driving like an angel amidst the army of daemons, trying to follow all the rules! You are trying to pass an exam, while other drivers(3 mln cars in Moscow) just go about how they want.

Ok, let's return to the reading)
About line 3, Confucius says:

"If a man permits himself to be oppressed by something that ought not to oppress him, his name will certainly be disgraced. If he leans on things upon which one cannot lean, his life will certainly be endangered. For him who is in disgrace and danger, the hour of death draws near; how can he then still
see his wife? "


Don't get too emotionally attached to the exam, try to keep it calm and reserved, don't let nothing distract you. And if you fail, oh well, it's probably not the time for you yet.

Line 6 says something similar, Wilhelm:
A man is oppressed by bonds that can easily be broken. The distress is drawing to an end. But he is still irresolute; he is still influenced by the previous condition and fears that he may have cause for regret if he makes a move. But as soon as he grasps the situation, changes this mental attitude, and makes a firm decision, he masters the oppression.

Hex 50, The Cauldron.
I think it says: "Follow the recipe to the point, then you will get your delicious meal."
You can't blame another person or heavens for forgetting to put salt in the soup, or leaving the lid on for too long.

Excerpt from Paul O'Brien's comment on h50: "A fresh approach to old habits is indicated in a period of rejuvenation. Look for ways of putting new life into old forms; for only when great vitality is present, can breakthroughs be achieved."
 
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yep 47.3.5.6 changes to 50 not 64.
 

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for me, h64 embodies a lot of angst and the little fox needs to get to the other side as soon as possible. Maybe 47 is how this exam feels - walking on the ice and being in a hurry results to mistakes. I recall , when i took the written exams, and had read like a hell , I answered the questions and gave my paper without checking once again before handing it... ouch ! I passed but was so irrational .

47.6 usually comes when the obstruction/ problem is less less less bigger that I fell it is . Maybe there lies the anxiety of 64 ?
 

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we crossed posts...turns out 64 is not the relating hexagram, as ash pointed out, relating hex here is 50.


this seems to happen so much now I guess it's always worth checking the cast before bothering to answer.

However my interpretation remains the same really....


Interestingly the yang change pattern (pattern changing lines make) is 53, gradual progress, so it looks as if you will get there it just takes time, as you have seen. The yin pattern is 50, cooking...so it's important what ingredients you put in the pot
.

I got the 50 in there
 

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First of all thank you all for your contributions and the promptness of your replies. A particular thanks to pointing out my error with the relating hexagram!i will need to re-contextulise the reading. This is what can happen when you cast in the early hours of the morning…

Secondly, I will try to clarify my position on a few things relating to this upcoming test.
Trojan, when I used the term "trivial", you are correct in saying that I mean it in a relative sense. Relative to the big picture on an existential level. My exact problem is that I've invested too much emotionally in this whole pragmatic affair which is exactly why I am failing repeatedly. The problem, if anything is that I'm taking it TOO seriously in a way, putting too much of my sense of self and esteem at stake.

Thirdly, I passed my theory with flying colours twice (first theory exam expired so had to redo). Not just well but with full marks. My practical/city tests have always been due to one crucial stupid mistake that I wouldn't dream of doing in practice. Nerves basically. For example on my first test (probably my best), I drove in the pouring rain, with a notoriously harsh examiner for an hour, and made only 1 major mistake and NO minors. 1 single error of judgement amidst an otherwise perfect drive. Even the examiner felt bad for failing me.

And so I keep repeating this pattern, only the weight of the test accumulates at every attempt precisely because I am practically capable of it but some internal/psycho-emotional block is not allowing me to exit this vicious circle. The difficult thing to accept, for me and my instructor, is that I've been ready for this a long time in terms of skills (far worse drivers than me are passing everyday as my instructor says), but something deeper, whether an insecurity, or the vulnerability i feel at this particular time in my life, or whatever, has been getting in the way of being in the right frame of mind to tackle it. I cannot really postpone this due to my current responsibilities also.

Thank you for your illuminating replies. I hope this helps to understand the context in more detail.
 

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Don't get too emotionally attached to the exam, try to keep it calm and reserved, don't let nothing distract you. And if you fail, oh well, it's probably not the time for you yet.

Line 6 says something similar, Wilhelm:
A man is oppressed by bonds that can easily be broken. The distress is drawing to an end. But he is still irresolute; he is still influenced by the previous condition and fears that he may have cause for regret if he makes a move. But as soon as he grasps the situation, changes this mental attitude, and makes a firm decision, he masters the oppression.

Hex 50, The Cauldron.
I think it says: "Follow the recipe to the point, then you will get your delicious meal."
You can't blame another person or heavens for forgetting to put salt in the soup, or leaving the lid on for too long.

Excerpt from Paul O'Brien's comment on h50: "A fresh approach to old habits is indicated in a period of rejuvenation. Look for ways of putting new life into old forms; for only when great vitality is present, can breakthroughs be achieved."
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Thank you ashteroid for your interpretation and elaboration on the lines. Thats exactly how I read those lines and felt quite elated in receiving such indisputable judgement. I think the consecutive fails have daunted me and this time round; with the confirmation of the IChing, I feel i need to break from the past, or the patterned myth I have created and trapped myself in. Finding an inner calm/resolve has been my trouble till now.

I now need to start thinking about hex 50... Your quote from Paul O'Brien is inspirational but I will need to find ways to put that into practice constructively.

I guess the symbolic notion of the "wife" is almost a technical detail at this point, but I am curious as to what it means exactly. Is it something to do one's pride?
 
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Hi anemos!

In relation to what you said:
"47.6 usually comes when the obstruction/ problem is less less less bigger that I fell it is . Maybe there lies the anxiety of 64 ?"

Although hex 64 is out the picture in a way (although my previous question did point to it), I must admit there is anxiety and tension regarding the tasks at hand and what i believe is at stake here. I have made this task almost insurmountable for myself - judging myself harshly for my failures till now in a no-constructive manner. This has been my own doing - my own worst enemy so to speak.

Thanks for the support!
 
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47.3 is quite sharp....it's a warning not to look for support (the wife) where there actually isn't any. Somewhere in the question you misjudged where your support is. So, as driving is a great support as a skill to have I thought by not giving it full attention you weren't nourishing that....whereas if you can give it more attention there are no obstacles there (47.6).

Sorry Trojan, I realise that you've quite cogently explained the whole wife thing.
Thanks again!
 

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