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moonrise

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Hi, everyone,

I need your help on this one because I feel the lines are contradicting each other a bit.

I broke up a communication with a friend...well, it is an old theme for me, but in a couple of months I am going to meet him.
And I am still sad about the brake up.

So, I aksed Yi Jing about this.
"Give an insight into this relationship and what should I do, how to act?"

I got: 55.1.4.6->52

First line is about going out and meet the person you are meant to be with.

Fourth line is about meeting, too. The obstruction is lessening and abundance can come.

Sixth line is about being closed in your vanity and stubborness.

Is Jing trying to tell me that I should open to this person again? But 52 is about keeping still, so I would say that I should not move. I don't feel like doing any steps towards him. I intend to ignore him. I cannot meet him after the way he treated me.

But is this indicating that we are still connected in some way and that stubborness and vanity is keeping us appart? Mostls his vanity and stubborness, these adjectives describe him perfectly.
How do these line combine and what about 52?

I would really appreciate your input on this, I am not sure what the message is. Thank you!
 

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Hi Moonrise

"Give an insight into this relationship and what should I do, how to act? I got: 55.1.4.6->52"

When there are so many active lines in a hexagram, I tend to ignore them and concentrate on the bigger picture, which is 55>52 in this case.

55 is about a peak experience, a high point, in which:

* It's right for you to be completely in charge of what you do.

* There's no cause for sorrow here (no matter what the situation looks like).

* You're at the top of your game now, and it's proper for you to be radiantly visible to all.

52 is about stilling yourself.

So, put them together and you get something like this: "In terms of this relationship, you should be completely in charge of yourself, with no sadness, radiant to all. Still your heart, calm your heart."

And what are the implications of all this? Well, I'd say that it means that you should wear your freedom from this guy like it was a crown, let go of the sadness, and let your heart find inner peace.
 

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Hi, dobro,

thank you for your reply! It really makes sense, also about how I feel...like now for a change will have some decisive power.

radiant, my heart calm - this is exaclty i feel I should do:)

You always ignore if there are so many changing lines? But I felt that they in fact related quite well to this relationship question. I should not take any relevance anyway?
Maybe they say if I act like this we could be connecting again - although it is not what I feel. I do wish we could be friends but not like this any more, I cannot put up with his attitude any more.

but in any case, what you said, sounds very right.
thank you again!
 
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moonrise said:
...But 52 is about keeping still, so I would say that I should not move. ...I would really appreciate your input on this, I am not sure what the message is. Thank you!

52 is about self-restraint that leads to discernment.
55 is about abundance, diversity and so potential overflow etc

55 to 52 is interpretable as:

with/from abundance comes discernment.

When there are a lot of choices around one needs to be strongly discerning; you (a) need to make a choice but (b) be not too hasty.

From an XOR perspective, 1.4.6 represent the 21-ness of 55 where the focus on 21 is on problem solving, setting down rules etc in new situations, and in 55 this is done through being discerning (52).
 

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Discerning indeed...not putting up with everything any more.

This does make sense - thanks!
 

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""Give an insight into this relationship and what should I do, how to act?"

I got: 55.1.4.6->52"

Hex 55.1 You probably can pay him a short visit ( maybe an in the flesh visit maybe a visit by telephone/email), sometime, but don't try to be to close excceeding your position will only bring you problems.

Hex 55.4 Again about meeting but you are the visitor, and as such you think that this position is not right for you.

Hex 55.6 You overplay your hand, so it all goes wrong and you are alone again.

Hex 52 Keeping still, make no more action in this relationship, you do not see him again for a long time. As you do not get on together you must restrain yourself from contact (no blame), otherwise problems for you.
 
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Hi Moonrise,

52 is indeed about not taking any steps towards him. The ignoring for a couple of months that you intend to do however, is expressed in 55.6, and it is said that there is misfortune doing this.
55.4 is about shielding yourself from him, and using that to meet with people unknown to him, who you can learn something from. 55.1 is similar, it just doesn't talk about shielding, just about having some time to meet with someone who is fitting to learn from.

I guess that 55.4 is about what you are doing here on this forum. He doesn't know about this place (it's shielded from him), and you're here to learn things about the situation. Perhaps 55.1 is about meeting someone else who you trust to learn things from regarding the relationship with your friend that you broke off.
 

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moonrise said:
radiant, my heart calm - this is exaclty i feel I should do:)

You always ignore if there are so many changing lines? But I felt that they in fact related quite well to this relationship question. I should not take any relevance anyway?"

Well, I don't actually ignore them all the time. But on this occasion, I wanted to focus on the big picture. First, anyways.
 

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Hi,
thank you for your thoughts.
They all make sense and maybe I was a bit too resentful towards him. I did talk to a friend and things got a bit clearer to me and some burden was lifted.

So, in a way i should contact him but stay aloof maybe, not expect too much. I guess no extreme is okay.

I don't understand how 55.4 is abour shielding? It says it is about meeting the other.

Maybe I should brake the ice and make some steps but not too far.
 

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moonrise said:
I don't understand how 55.4 is abour shielding? It says it is about meeting the other.
Wilhelm/Baynes has "The curtain is of such fullness." That curtain is shielding.

There are some differences between translations that also account for my interpretation of shielding. The "ruler," that in Wilhelm's is "of like kind," is in my and some other translations "hidden."
 

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