56.3.4 to 23 Experience with this Hex

[bellaball]

56.3.4 to 23 What is the likelihood of ___ happening?

I take it to mean as not very likely and would not be a good idea.

 

[Trojina]

My impression is it looks a flimsy proposition that can't last. The situation appears untenable (hex 23) yet perhaps one tries to revisit it...or undo perceived damage ?(56.3) but actually even if some kind of amends are made this isn't the way to find happiness (56.4) because you are trying to build on a crumbling foundation (23)


I have no idea what kind of situation you are asking about so you will need to take what fits and apply as you see fit.

In terms of my general impression this looks like something flimsy. Imaginary example....I'm not getting on with someone and our relationship is over but I call and ask to meet them. We meet...and it's okay but it doesn't stop the whole thing falling apart. Perhaps what I was trying to do was rebuild something that was only ever meant to be temporary...

looks a bit like this emoticon

 

[blue_angel]

Yes, it's hard to figure out what the meaning of the reading is for you without some background. The question we ask is not always the question answered. Sometimes the answer will point to something else on our mind or something of more importance we need to face before we can figure out how to deal with the question we are asking. Does that make sense?


So your reading looks something like you 23 stripped away and 56 traveled. Or you are wandering 56 about 23 stripping away. Or traveling away. Line 3- but you've been some what careless or arrogant towards someone that can help you or support you. So line 4- you are now in a place to stay and you have everything you could possibly need but your heart is not happy. You are not content.

Or it could read the other way, you have everything you need but your heart is not content and by not having value for what you do have, you will lose the support you have.


The other funny thing about these answers is they don't always show what will actually happen or what has happened. Sometimes they show what we are afraid of happening. And sometimes they are showing our own emotional well being and have nothing to do with anyone else. For example your carelessness could be towards yourself. And you lose your own support or awareness.


Although Trojina has an insightful post as well. So
unless you are able to provide some background
into what's going on in your life, you sort of have
to figure out on your own how the answers are
speaking to you. Hopefully our insight into the
readings can help you.


I wonder if its "you are wandering about x, but x is stripping away. Line 4 you have all you need but you would rather be doing x. Line 3 your own carelessness or arrogance about it all causes you to lose x or lose the support you do have. Hmmm... well I hope you can figure it out. Might help to remember it is a continuous change. So this can represent an argument or a moment in time. It is not always something so detrimental, nor something that can not be changed with time or help. Sometimes a reading can refer to this minute or this day. The next minute or day may have changed.


Best wishes on your journey,

Blue_Angel

 

[bellaball]

Here's a little background regarding this post.

I had a minor fall-out with someone yet chose to walk away to avoid things escalating further. I don't really know how things turned so sour, It almost seemed provoked. I was totally caught off guard and it left me feeling stumped. I was wondering, since time has passed, if we'd ever find a peaceful resolve because I'm uncomfortable with the ways things transpired probably because I don't have a full understanding.

So I asked the question: What is the likelihood of an honest, open line of communication between us to resolve past issues.

 

[Trojina]

56.3 doesn't always have to mean you have been arrogant to someone....it can just be a case that as a stranger you light too big a fire in too small a hearth.

In my experience, and others I have read of..the lines 53.3. and 53.6 can show you burning bridges but often there wasn't much choice or you needed to burn them.


Also looking at the change patterns the yang pattern is 62, the yin pattern 61. I am wondering from what you say it is not you who is at fault here, the situation was crumbling anyway. I stay with my first angle on it. I think from 56.4 you could get back into a old rut with this relationship but there isn't any point. I don't think it holds much life for you...it's already on it's way out (23)

Just from what you say it doesn't sound like the person is cutting you much slack...and when these things happen, you know taking offence at minor things, things going sour no explanation, it often shows the relationship was crumbling anyway.

I think it is understandable you want more understanding but I reckon it's best to let it go.

Although there are other ways to see the reading. Often in relationship questions the answer can just show the next episode of the relationship. However even as a next episode I would leave well alone as it just doesn't hold much anyway. 56 shows more of a fleeting or incidental connection rather than anything well established....and of course 23 the foundations crumble.

You could be honest about it (61 yin pattern) but I think this was far more flimsy than you thought...

...but as ever you need to go with your own sense of the answer

 

[blue_angel]

You just described your reading perfectly. But I wonder if leaving without a full understanding or even trying to work things out is showing you as being careless or arrogant about the issue. For Yi to throw the situation right back at you. Its like saying... this is the current reality, what are you going to do about it? Try asking
"How should I approach _______?"


So you're wandering about how you stripped away. And stripping away can be painful cause you invest so much time and energy. And you must be careful wandering because you don't fully understand the situation.


Line 4- but your heart isn't content. Even though there is no current arguing.

Line 3- you were seen as careless or arrogant. The other person figures you don't care because you didn't try to understand nor try to work it out.

Well, I wander if you can reverse the action. And simply be seen as caring. You can only try by communicating and finding out what happened. What's the root of the issue? If you can't resolve it, you'll have to find a way for your heart to be content. Its possible that line could be showing... you have what it takes to resolve this but you aren't putting your heart into it.

 

[blue_angel]

Only my opinion. But to have a long, enduring relationship, two parties must be willing to try to understand each other, and work together through any bumps in the road. You don't just walk away due to a "minor" fall out. You don't just passively run at the first sign of confrontation. How can you learn to travel these roads with that sort of "hands in the air" attitude? Its like "oh well, that didn't work. I didn't even understand. But forget communicating, I'll just walk away, forget about it." Must not be that important of a relationship then. On to the next right?

You said "minor fall-out" you walked away from a minor fall-out. Like a petty issue? Anyway, totally up to you what's right for you and what you decide to do. I can see Trojina's take on it but only if you had actually tried to work this out and put your full care, effort into this. Which from you're saying you didn't. You didn't want to argue. You didn't want the confrontation so you walked. Which sometimes we have to, to cool down. To back up and then come back when everyone is cooled down and see what small things can be worked on.


So for me your reading shows exactly what you described yourself that took place. Its as if "this is the reality, this what happened, think about that, before you take any action" or nothing else is known, this is all that's known, what are you going to do about it.


But I could be completely wrong. So its important for you to build your own relationship spiritually so you can get a feel for your intuition and your own path.


Best wishes on your journey,

Blue_Angel

 

[bellaball]

I understand your point and agree 100% however I must add that I only walked away from the minor fall out once it was made clear by the other person that there was no desire for a discussion. My immediate response was to communicate and try to resolve the matter but I was immediately shut down and ignored. Me walking away was not my first choice... it just seemed like the best thing to do after I was shunned.

 

[blue_angel]

Ah... good call for Trojina. That's sad really. I am sorry for your misfortune. Well chin up. Life goes in circles. Where one door closes another is sure to open.

I wonder then if it shows that actually the other person as line 3- they shunned you, they didn't treat you with care, and line 4- your heart isn't content with that it hurts. So you're wondering why they stripped away in such a manner. That was rude and arrogant. Hexagram 2- we can't always and only be receptive how we treat others but how they treat us. We at times have to yield as you did to keep the peace and fall back on those that are friendly and truly supportive. And its not always easy when we have invested ourselves into someone or something hexagram 23 to strip away.