58.3.6>1 exchange ?

[anemos]

Hi all,

I would appreciate any help you could offer.

A couple of days ago something was postponed again.
I asked "what do i need to know about that situation? and got 58.3.6>1

My take is that it refers to my emotions. those delays used to be nerve-braking but this time I could finally take it much more lighter so I think this reading points out this new approach.

Yet, there was a discussion , with the person decides about the date, and he talk about money. it is very common to be asked to give money although you ask for a service that its free and that specific person when i asked him he said no. That was months ago during the first part of this procedure and i was asked to give a"present" to one of his colleague. Now the situation is different , wages in that sector have been reduce due to the economic situation here so I guess although he made me clear that he doesn't ask me money for himself , things are tough there so somehow administration delays cases that are not "profitable".

Although I can't afford it , I'm thinking to do it just to help him and avoid anything negative influence around this delicate process but I'm not sure what this reading says if its about that kind of exchange. if its about past and the reason of those delays makes sense, but if its something i need to think about this coming event I can't find something that resonates.

how would your read 58.3.6>1 /

thanks for any help you can give

 

[cris]

Hi Maria,

I find it intriguing that hex 58 is translated as "exchange" by certain authors. It would appear to refer to the grease payment you've been asked for. Wilhelm's commentary on the judgement says

Under certain conditions, intimidation without gentleness may achieve something momentarily, but not for all time. When, on the other hand, the hearts of men are won by friendliness, they are led to take all hardships upon themselves willingly...

Line 3 in my opinion refers to your doubts about this payment, the fact that you feel sort of pressured to do it, but don't think it's right. Line 6 seem to show your change of heart and your current thinking that maybe it's better to pay. The relating hex shows initiative on your side.
I am personally totally against these practices but still we have to come to terms with the fact that in some countries there's almost no other way to make things move. If these facilitating payments are customary in the sector you are having to deal with, maybe a small present would indeed make the gentleman more cooperative.

Just my two cents... all the best

 

[pocossin]

What do I need to know about that situation?
58.3.6>1

If the matter is worth it, you should pay the bribe. I associate the upper lines of 58 with corruption (softening) and 1 with influence. In many countries public servants do not served unless bribed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Hazare

 

[anemos]

I am personally totally against these practices but still we have to come to terms with the fact that in some countries there's almost no other way to make things move. If these facilitating payments are customary in the sector you are having to deal with, maybe a small present would indeed make the gentleman more cooperative.

Just my two cents... all the best

Thank you Cris !

I'm against too and especially in that sector where people are more vulnerable but its more than customary. I find it unethical hence my inner conflict.

I overlooked the part you quote but its makes a lot of sense. He did a great job at the first phase , he did his best and more when there was a complication but what is more important he had a very caring disposition. I feel him as a friend and he really deserves a big gift but he declined it. So I fell now , if those money make it more easy for him and the people around him be happy then its how I can thank him.

Cris, you helped a lot.

 

[anemos]

What do I need to know about that situation?
58.3.6>1

If the matter is worth it, you should pay the bribe. I associate the upper lines of 58 with corruption (softening) and 1 with influence. In many countries public servants do not served unless bribed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Hazare

interesting take Tom. This is why i thought it was about the past, i mean the root of those delays. Thank you !

btw , I think we are one of those countries and i hope this current economy situation won't make this situation worst but reduce that phenomenon.