59.2,4,6<45 for a solution

[dragona]

Hello, maybe some members remember my unresolved situation on almost every front and this is just an continuing consultation on the subject of family matter. It came to my knowledge that a certain hospital may be the best choice-perhaps a bit radical but also free of charge one (but not permanent, most probably). Home care is not sufficient for a while now, since I am not any authority or person of trust to my sick mother or my sibling. I am just at the end of my nerves and unable to control my behavior for the last year.
My question:
What kind of a solution for M. would be going to X place? 59.2,4,6<45
I am far too stressed to read the cast as I ought to.
Dispersion I am not sure how to understand. She may get the feeling of lost and disorientation of a higher degree? Or it is something that needs to be done?
I get no support -doubt she would agree to go and a family member who is more of an authority for her even though not helping out in a way I find to be the most beneficial, is a priory negative about it but it is to be expected since it is easier to put the load of deciding on me and blame me for it latter. I am not exaggerating - it is an additional pressure I cannot handle anymore.
If there is someone to interpret for me, I would be grateful.TY:bows:

 

[goddessliss]

Sounds like the right place to me dragona but you gotta find someone to talk with about it first to get that support you need. - Liss

 

[dragona]

NO other views? Thank you Liss, but I would like to get more input, unless there is nothing to add to yours.

 

[Trojina]

Hello, maybe some members remember my unresolved situation on almost every front and this is just an continuing consultation on the subject of family matter. It came to my knowledge that a certain hospital may be the best choice-perhaps a bit radical but also free of charge one (but not permanent, most probably). Home care is not sufficient for a while now, since I am not any authority or person of trust to my sick mother or my sibling. I am just at the end of my nerves and unable to control my behavior for the last year.
My question:
What kind of a solution for M. would be going to X place? 59.2,4,6<45
I am far too stressed to read the cast as I ought to.
Dispersion I am not sure how to understand. She may get the feeling of lost and disorientation of a higher degree? Or it is something that needs to be done?
I get no support -doubt she would agree to go and a family member who is more of an authority for her even though not helping out in a way I find to be the most beneficial, is a priory negative about it but it is to be expected since it is easier to put the load of deciding on me and blame me for it latter. I am not exaggerating - it is an additional pressure I cannot handle anymore.
If there is someone to interpret for me, I would be grateful.TY:bows:

I think it's a very hard question to give input on. Firstly it's not clear to me who the answer applies to. Is the answer about your idea of solution for you rather than her ?

There are 2 seperate issues, what is best for you and what is best for her. As an outsider I cannot untangle these. 59.6 generally shows someone getting far away from the source of distress. But I've no idea if that means to drop the idea because it's harmful to her OR that the idea is itself a means of escaping distress for you or for her.

Also it doesn't feel right for me to assist in making a decision about what you do with another person's life. She has no power here does she. I forget what illness she has...Parkinsons ? But I assume she has lost some use of her mental faculties.

So I wouldn't feel in any way qualified to assist you making decisions about her life. You are basically asking if you should put her in a home or not. Who is going to say "yes put her in the home". It might be horrible for her, it might not. I've worked in homes for people with dementia. Some people are okay there, some aren't. Sometimes a good solution seemed to be where carers would have respite for periods of time, for example their mum or dad might go in the home for a week each month and so on.

Also I think this has to be an informed choice. You need to discuss it with her dr and go to the place and see how people are treated and so on. Maybe you already did all this and are asking after doing the research.

Anyway I don't really have a clear idea idea about the answer but somehow wouldn't feel comfortable inputting on it anyway because I don't know her or the situation.

Its a very big question "what shall i do with someone else's life ?" when that 'someone else' has no choice at all.

I'd hate to ever be in the situation where somone was asking where to 'put' me on an open internet forum.

I know it's very difficult for you and I recall you said how hard it was when she is abusive to you,,,,but I feel those around you can help with the choice more than we can.

I really don't feel you can make this choice with I Ching alone...or place the responsibility for the choice on an I Ching answer interpreted by strangers.

What does her dr think ?

 

[dragona]

Absolutely agreed on your intelligent perception of the angles here.
Just to clarify, perhaps.
I did ask what kind of a solution THAT PARTICULAR PLACE would be for HER because that is what I need to know atm...I can ask how it will affect me and so on, but first things first....
It did come to my attention surely...ur tossing for such a thing, but then again, YI can surprise you and that place was recommended by her psychiatrist for instance and the institution paying considers it transitory and myself certainly one of probably two, but more professional and cheaper choices to begin with...
as I really really am spent and unable to function and help as I should. I had a tough year that I feel filled the cup so it is natural that the cast should speak through me...my nerves are quitting on me.
So this one I left opened to an unburdened outsider to just interpret.

In worse case scenario she goes there, gets a professional observators opinion and goes elsewhere as she NEEDS to stay in a nursing home the way illness is progressing - I cannot remain by her side for 24 hrs that she needs, 3 years I hope and pray were enough and wore me out.
Doctors are pretty cool about it and tell me to chill out basically as it is the nature of the illness...most give a vibe that it should have been done before and the constant supervision and care is a written recommendation.... other people stay away hoping things get better for me financially as, needless to say it is all about connections and money here.

So have no fear - it is not a life and death choice, just an interpretation of the cast I may learn from, Clarity.:bows:

 

[Trojina]

Well now that's clarified this is totally for her then it certainly does look like an option yes.

59.2 often comes up for times one falls back, successfully, on tried and tested methods and means of support. An example I have is of when I enquired about the usefulness of an injection for a bad shoulder. I took it as to rely on conventional means here was fortunate. It turned out to be very effective indeed and enabled me to do the necessary physio work. So 59.2 looks good.

59.4 is often about going your own way, feeling sad about it, and other not quite understanding your actions. Not sure how this applies but it may refer to your decision, the emotions around that decision

59.6 is generally "get the hell out of here and keep going" so there's distance from harm.

I imagine this refers to the relief of her being in care of professionals....but I can't be 100% sure.

Hex 45 gathering resources to aid and assist sounds relevant.

If this is a temporary assessment centre and gives you a chance to get an over view, and you already have opinions of drs and psychiatrist then I can't see why you wouldn't try this option ? You won't be abandoning her presumably because you'll visit and check up on how well she is doing there.


See how others see it, but now you have explained it seems a fairly sensible option and sensible is what you need to be isn't it ?

 

[Trojina]

Oh BTW the change patterns, the patterns the change lines make, here are yang change pattern hex 64 yin change pattern hex 63.

I understand broadly speaking that the yang pattern is what you go into the question with, ie 64 a sense of nothing being in the right place and the yin pattern a way through the question...here hex 63. So it looks to me like the pattern speaks of a shift from disorder to order. Looks to me like the process of sorting something out. Maybe you will make a decision pretty soon

 

[dragona]

I am doubtful now. Called that place again, as advised, in order to talk to a doctor and the nurses tone was such that I had to tell her - as was stressed out very much (something I never do) that I don`t care for it. And again I was told that it s a terrible place, out of hand and unfitting....perhaps the line 6 tells to check it out and get out of there?
On the other hand, patient won`t take meds and that only complicates things further.

 

[deusa]

Dragona
Did you go there? What was your feeling?
Do you have somebody, a friend, a perceptive friend, who can go with you?
Do you only have bad "reviews" about the place? Or there are some good ones?
It must be a difficult decision to take...
I wish I could help more...

 

[dragona]

Dear deusa, these holiday times are not right to do anything. >Doctors are mostly away etc.
I was told by my cousin that place is pretty grim and financially set them back a lot since they had somewhat similar case. Was also told to try another place which I had in mind but did not have the time lately as my mother was and is acting out which is just stressing me to the point of sickness.
I plan to see about the place no2.
Thank you for your concern,
happy holidays to all, d.

 

[pocossin]

What kind of a solution for M. would be going to X place?
59.2.4.6 > 45

Your energies are being dispersed by this impossible situation. Aging will continue to disperse your mother's health and mind, and the demands on you will increase. What good will it do your mother if your health fails? "That place was recommended by her psychiatrist" is all the support you need. I think you should act on it.