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61.3 Is telling me how to behave towards a person. What does this mean?
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Hello. Hexagram 61 is about establishing psychic connections with people. Influencing someone psychically to do what is right. Part of that is being sincere and having their well being and interests at heart.
61.3
The rapport that is needed for establishing and maintaining a psychic bond is with someone is lacking here, thus the relationship alternates between weeping and laughter. The chief cause is a lack of sincerity.
Hope this makes since. Peace.
61.3
The rapport that is needed for establishing and maintaining a psychic bond is with someone is lacking here, thus the relationship alternates between weeping and laughter. The chief cause is a lack of sincerity.
Hope this makes since. Peace.
The thing about this relationship is that I have finally accepted that *I* can want someone just for sex and passion and not a relationship. It would take me pages to write all that I have gone round about in my head regarding this..but the fact is that: I want this relationship for SEX. Not for marriage.
If you read the Liar Liar Pants on Fire thread you will see that I was pissed off because he didnt tell me about his home situation. But, then I thought, "hold on a minute, should he have? Does he own that to me? The answer was: "no".
I was angered by ego and envy. It is complicated to explain but basically, the one who feels the most guilt, cast the most blame. I didn't feel guilt for the conventional moral reason but deep down felt guilt for not being honest with myself about why I wanted him and what I wanted. I was being self-righteous.
Looking back at the Liar, Liar thread I see myself making vast assumptions about his character but when I turn it around I see that what I was doing was creating a self-righteous shield to deal with my own envy.
I cleared the air with him, acknowledging that he never promised me anything at all. In the process the most interesting thing came to the surface. HE is/was, feeling more for me romantically than I was for him! When I backed off, he got upset and confused as he was used to me being available, then suddenly I wasn't.
Funny, but when one suspends judgement about how things "should" be, the situation, the reality, clarifies.
As we were in the process of clarifying things I asked about the General Situation of our "relationship" and got:
9.3
Now that we have clarified things the same question yields the answer: 16.2.3
If you read the Liar Liar Pants on Fire thread you will see that I was pissed off because he didnt tell me about his home situation. But, then I thought, "hold on a minute, should he have? Does he own that to me? The answer was: "no".
I was angered by ego and envy. It is complicated to explain but basically, the one who feels the most guilt, cast the most blame. I didn't feel guilt for the conventional moral reason but deep down felt guilt for not being honest with myself about why I wanted him and what I wanted. I was being self-righteous.
Looking back at the Liar, Liar thread I see myself making vast assumptions about his character but when I turn it around I see that what I was doing was creating a self-righteous shield to deal with my own envy.
I cleared the air with him, acknowledging that he never promised me anything at all. In the process the most interesting thing came to the surface. HE is/was, feeling more for me romantically than I was for him! When I backed off, he got upset and confused as he was used to me being available, then suddenly I wasn't.
Funny, but when one suspends judgement about how things "should" be, the situation, the reality, clarifies.
As we were in the process of clarifying things I asked about the General Situation of our "relationship" and got:
9.3
Now that we have clarified things the same question yields the answer: 16.2.3
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Hex 16.2 says that you are no longer misled by the silver tongued guy, you have finally seen the true status of the "relationship", so if you sense any trouble brewing, disappear quickly. Do not allow your self to make the same mistake again.
Hex 16.3 says to not to take any more interest in this guy because it would only cause you further problems if you did, so don't hesitate to back right off away from him.
Hex 32 says to continue with your separation and not to change your mind about him, then everything will turn out okay for you, as a new beginning has now been created.
hmm. then please help me understand this:
I asked, "what will happen in my life if I completely cut all ties with X?"
I got 29 unchanging
So I thought, "ok i am just having a hard time holding the question in my head, let me try again".
So I asked again and got
60.1 leading to 29!
WHAT?! maybe I just can't hold the question in my head.
what's that about?
I asked, "what will happen in my life if I completely cut all ties with X?"
I got 29 unchanging
So I thought, "ok i am just having a hard time holding the question in my head, let me try again".
So I asked again and got
60.1 leading to 29!
WHAT?! maybe I just can't hold the question in my head.
what's that about?
I think I understand the answers above. It is saying it will not be easy to cut him out of my life. But I must keep with the limitations I have set. I take it that the Yi is telling me that even just a sexual relationship with him will still be bad for me. Even if it's just to fulfil my own desire.
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Do you remember getting 44.1 about giving him up -it was never going to be easy.
What you said about just keeping him for sex (lol) I dunno but to me it sounds very much like a rationalisation for staying in this relationship. I don't need the Yi to tell me you are anything but casual abut this relationship - maybe you can convince yourself but be aware it may be a ploy on the part of your subconscious to stay in connection with him. Its like an addiction - I've been hooked on things and believe me you will always find a perfectly plausible valid reason to take another drug/drink etc.
Just incase others think I'm way outta line with all this judgemental ness I'm recalling the previous threads too. This man lies to you in a heartless way, you can't trust him and he deceives the woman he lives with - maybe hes not a bad person, maybe hes got his reasons etc etc but whats that to you - you have to look out for yourself.
Still you know the score. I think the 29 about cutting him out advises you it could be a rough ride, you have to stick to your integrity, your faith in yourself, like a drug addict, lol 53,6 is nice answer yes. I guess you'll do what you have to - from all I've read i find it difficult not to have an opinion - but its just an opinion
If you go on with him I think the 61.3 says you're going to be at the mercy of this - sometimes you'll be very happy and sometimes in the depths of despair - no judgement but your happiness has become totally dependent on another, its up to you if you want it that way.
What you said about just keeping him for sex (lol) I dunno but to me it sounds very much like a rationalisation for staying in this relationship. I don't need the Yi to tell me you are anything but casual abut this relationship - maybe you can convince yourself but be aware it may be a ploy on the part of your subconscious to stay in connection with him. Its like an addiction - I've been hooked on things and believe me you will always find a perfectly plausible valid reason to take another drug/drink etc.
Just incase others think I'm way outta line with all this judgemental ness I'm recalling the previous threads too. This man lies to you in a heartless way, you can't trust him and he deceives the woman he lives with - maybe hes not a bad person, maybe hes got his reasons etc etc but whats that to you - you have to look out for yourself.
Still you know the score. I think the 29 about cutting him out advises you it could be a rough ride, you have to stick to your integrity, your faith in yourself, like a drug addict, lol 53,6 is nice answer yes. I guess you'll do what you have to - from all I've read i find it difficult not to have an opinion - but its just an opinion
If you go on with him I think the 61.3 says you're going to be at the mercy of this - sometimes you'll be very happy and sometimes in the depths of despair - no judgement but your happiness has become totally dependent on another, its up to you if you want it that way.
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You will be free to go your own way, an obstacle to your progress will have been removed, so that you can then fly on to a better future.