61.4 > 10 re a relationship

[Riddle]

I have decided to ask one last time about a relationship of mine, with someone very special to me, let's call her R. I have asked the Yi before and got variable readings...52>53, 34>1...but thought i'd ask for an update on how I can re-connect with this person. This time I got 61.4 moving to 10.

61 always confuses me, as it seems to be an auspicious hexagram but the fourth line less so. And 10, again, is one that has a few warnings attached.

My reading is that i'm finally working out how I really feel about R and that I need to be myself, maybe separate from her for a while, but at the same time be courteous and open/honest with her in a way I haven't been before. There seems to be so much I can read into the situation that i'm a little confused so any help interpreting would be valued.

 

[Riddle]

As an addendum I guess maybe the hexagram combination could be because I have recently decided I don't want to be sad anymore re this relationship and this is the "inner truth" coming out...or maybe it could be that R is the horse referred to in line 4 as she has started on a new career and I should let her go?

Sorry for all the overthinking!

 

[mc123]

I always find 61 is very specific to whatever the situation is - so it's not a wide ranging hexagram like some can be. Have you thought about this interpretation from Robert Benson:

"In time the horse will get hungry and return. Over time the moon waxes then wanes again. At his best he may have learned from time on his own, and he comes back wise and more thankful for what he has.

At his worst he may come back feeling defeated and willing to be slavishly obedient in ordr to recoup the secturity he had before"

So maybe it's saying let her go...if she comes back you will have benefitted from this time, and not act too over-eager and needy?

 

[anemos]

I love this line and many time it's yi's that it's in a mood. It's gives me a good laught and all the tension ...puff. .disappears. ( 10)

If you want, play this imagery in your mind so you can see clear who/what the horse is, who/ what he has to leave behind and... look high to see the moon'face and what reflects. Give to the moon your light and will appear, brighter and bright. .. I'm sure you won't miss it. What is in the corral, might want to keep you theRe and you might feel you shouldn't leave them. But it's this moment of ambivalence or uncertainty, or doubts and guilts that keep you there, that yi smiles and says " no blame".

I won't bother you with big words, big ideas or theories, will spoil that experience. Feel the image and you will discover beautiful things.

Hope it helps what I share...
.... and thanks for bringing this line into light, today. Much needed and much appreciated

Have a good ride

 

[Riddle]

Thanks - both interpretations are useful. I want to stay with R and I love her, but I feel the Yi is telling me to leave...and hexagram 10 always confuses me. It sounds like a warning!

 

[anemos]

Thanks - both interpretations are useful. I want to stay with R and I love her, but I feel the Yi is telling me to leave...and hexagram 10 always confuses me. It sounds like a warning!

Riddle,

Thanks for the courtesy to acknowledge my contribution; it might sound weird but it's -oftentimes- rare here. I need to clarify myself, tho. I really don't know what yi is telling you, you might be right, but I know that this was not what I said.
The corral is nice and safe while the jungle dangerous ; you may get eaten . However, there are other ways to "read" what they mean. What you have to leave maybe be her, or something that has to do with you. This line , imo, it more about finding you than leaving something. There is a clash hence the "no blame". As for hex 10, it says the tiger don't bite.... well, it does, but if tread carefully, it won't. It sounds as yi acknowledges that it's a fearsome situation, but advise you not to freeze, fight or flight.

My advise, if I'm allowed to say that. Stay a bit at 61.4.

 

[Riddle]

Thank you again for your insight - it's very helpful. And yes, maybe it is me - I am being told to let go of my preconceptiosn rather than looking to her all the time.

When you say "stay at 61.4" how do you mean?

 

[anemos]

you asked about re-connecting and it's not a surprise you got 61. Notice , all lines is about bonding and imo, the drives behind them. By staying in 61.4 I meant the imagery or words, whatever works for you, but also meeting that inhabits into the corral. The horse, imo, doesn't run away. Sometimes you need to meet first something or someone, ourself included, so we can leave them; it sets you free . I see that happens , in various ways, in another place. There is always that meeting precedes the leaving , there is always that weird lack of blaming, it's that cheerfulnes/lightness that Tui adds, that's what you have to walk side by side with the tiger.

I just spoiled what I didn't want to spoil.

 

[Riddle]

It's fine - and thank you again. All so complicated for a novice like me!

 

[mc123]

If i'm reading Anemos right - an dforgive me if not - they are saying 61.4 may be reflecting something in you that you need to leave behind, such as an idea or impression about R. Maybe you think she has moved on? Maybe you are worried she isn't into you?

Anemos is saying (I think) sort yourself out, find yourself again and then tread carefully, be cheerful and just be open?

 

[canislulu]

Riddle, I am curious about something. Your question, "How can I reconnect....?" leads me to believe that you have lost a connection with this person somehow. Is that true in that you are not communicating anymore, or in that you are communicating but somehow do not feel the kind of connection that you want to feel?

If you have not been communicating, then the options for reconnecting would be to email her or to phone her or to send her something by one of the various means of snail mail....etc.

 

[Riddle]

Ji jumpingmouse, it's the latter - we are in communication but it's not the same as it used to be. She is more distant...

 

[canislulu]

Riddle, I do not think that Yi is telling you to leave.

Your inner truth is that you love her and that you want to stay. Your inner emotional truth is that you feel sad that you do not feel the same type of connection to her that you used to feel. And you do not want to feel sad anymore. Have you told her these things? Have you said to her something like, "I love you but I am feeling sad because you seem distant and I do not know how to rekindle the type of connection we had before. What can I do to nourish our connection?"

You mention a new career. Perhaps she is stressed because of the new work. Perhaps the distance has more to do with that than with you. A conversation may clarify things.

Then nuclear hexagram is 27, JAWS, which is about nourishment and things that go in and out of the mouth. Perhaps it is time to nourish your relationship with some talk.

Re: the relating hexagram 10, treading ---- is the "tiger" your fear that you have lost her?

I like anemos suggestion in post #4 for you to do imagery work. If that suggestion had been made to me -- this is what I would do -- I would sit in a comfortable position, close my eyes, pay attention to my breathing until I felt calm and centered, and the visualize a glowing full moon and look to see what is reflected in the glowing full moon. Once I saw it or knew what was there I would breath out, open my eyes, and write or draw about it. Doing imagery work like this is a way to access our inner truth.

 

[Riddle]

Wow jumpingmouse, it's like you've summed it up...that's totally what i'm afraid of! I need to communicate this to her....but calmly and with purpose. Thank you.

 

[mc123]

One final thing I might add - sometimes we think of the Yi of answering a query in the whole, instead of the moment...so we ask "what can I do re this?" and think it applies forever. Maybe the Yi was telling you to move away in the short term, and tread carefully for now. It isn't necessarily talking about months and months ahead?