64.3 - 50 and 50.3.6 - 40

[Mylife]

Hi everyone, I think I need your help with two readings in regards to my relationship.
I asked the oracle today 2 questions:

1) first Q focused on the if he met a girl and cheated. So I asked what to believe about my husband meeting a girl for sexual intercourse in his past trip. - I received 64.3 and chance to 50.

64 says something like the fox not yet crossing a river. Does that mean he did not “cross the river” so he did not cheat?
50 says something like establishing the new. I don’t really understand what the oracle is trying to tell me. Can you help me?

2) then I asked the second question focusing on his honesty: what attitude to take about my husband saying that he did not sexually meet nor sexually chat with any girl?
I received 50.3.6 and then 40.

50 says again about the establishing the new and 40 about a relief.

I really need your help and support. Can you advice how can I understand the oracle is telling me?

thank you very much.

 

[Mylife]

Anyone knows how can interpret the answers? Many thanks.

 

[diamant]

Hi Mylife,

if he met a girl and cheated
64.3 > 50
He did lay the ground, so to speak, he made some moves. Perhaps the 'deed' itself hasn't happened yet, but he's working on it slowly (50).

what attitude to take about my husband saying that he did not sexually meet nor sexually chat with any girl?
50.3.6 > 40
50.3 shows that some lovely food isn't being 'eaten', so a woman isn't being sexually sought after. 50.6 shows a woman without a child, perhaps a beautiful woman alone. In a sexual context, 40 shows doing the act just for 'relief', so it could mean that someone (either the lonely woman, or your husband) is using another for sexual relief, while their heart is not in it. 40 also means to pardon someone.
Back to your question, he probably didn't sexually meet anyone, but he most probably did sexually chat with someone.
Your attitude - well, is that acceptable to you? Is that something you can forgive and accept? If he did it once, he'll do it again. Is this something you can live with? If yes, for whatever reasons, be forgiving and turn a blind eye. If you can't live with it obviously you'll need to separate.

 

[Mylife]

Thanks for your sharing.

When he came back from the trip and I developed the doubts I asked the oracle a yes/no question about his faithfulness and I got 60 without movements. Then I asked yes/no about his honesty and I got 49.1-31

I left some time to pass (and this time I asked about what to believe about his faithfulness in the trip and I got 64.3-50. Then I asked what attitude to take about what he is saying to me and I got 50.3.6-40

do you think I did wrong asking twice on the same subject? Or maybe I asked the Q in the wrong way?
The 2 answers that I got seems to be quite different no?

 

[Mylife]

I don’t know what to do and to believe. I m in a such a confused situation that it’s difficult to explain.

 

[diamant]

Your questions sound just fine to me. It's natural to ask many questions when you're in such turmoil.

question about his faithfulness 60 unchanging
His faithfulness is limited. So, he's faithful in some way.

yes/no about his honesty 49.1-31
He likes the financial security of being in your marriage, and he also still fancies you.

It sounds to me like he is chatting someone up, but he has not been physically unfaithful. Also he doesn't sound like he's going to leave you for whoever he's chatting up. Most men will not admit they're doing such things (if they're doing such things). Also it would be quite poisonous for you to start searching his phone or email.

The important thing here is, how does he treat you? Is he a good husband, does he act lovingly towards you, does he truly care about you, etc etc. If yes, I don't see a problem. If not, then the reason why he's not loving isn't that important.

 

[Mylife]

You have been so helpful. Thank you.

He treats me very well. He is a loving and adorable husband. He is careful, pays attention always carrying. From his behaviour I can say he loves me. Hence It’s difficult to imagine him being a bad person.

the whole doubt came up because when he came back from the trip I saw on his mobile a blocked nr. And when I checked what that nr is I saw being a sexual agency phone nr where you call / sms to chat with a girl or agree to meet with one. So I asked him. He said he doesn’t remember what this nr was and it could be a nr from long time, bla bla bla and he was vague. He said he didn’t meet anyone nor chatting with anyone. He only said that the believes he has the nr for the purpose of seeing the girl picture in what’s up profile. He uses porn videos sometimes (like every men) and he said that he wanted a pic and thought that saving this nr would give him a pic to see in the profile. Anyway… it sounds so unbelievable but I pretended.
As you can see this is not an easy situation.

we never had such problems not before the trip not after (that I know off).

but I don’t know what to think and how to act around. What shall I take as a conclusion of the 4 answers from the oracle?

So shall I take that he has been physically faithful from what you interpret. But in regards to his honesty he was honest on saying he didn’t meet someone but he was lying about chatting.
He stays married to me because he likes the financial security we have. He also likes me.

what conclusion shall I make? And what shall I do.

 

[Trojina]

Hi everyone, I think I need your help with two readings in regards to my relationship.
I asked the oracle today 2 questions:

1) first Q focused on the if he met a girl and cheated. So I asked what to believe about my husband meeting a girl for sexual intercourse in his past trip. - I received 64.3 and chance to 50.

64 says something like the fox not yet crossing a river. Does that mean he did not “cross the river” so he did not cheat?
50 says something like establishing the new. I don’t really understand what the oracle is trying to tell me. Can you help me?

2) then I asked the second question focusing on his honesty: what attitude to take about my husband saying that he did not sexually meet nor sexually chat with any girl?
I received 50.3.6 and then 40.

50 says again about the establishing the new and 40 about a relief.

I really need your help and support. Can you advice how can I understand the oracle is telling me?

thank you very much.

It's very dangerous to pretend we know about a third parties actions regardless of the means of divination. No one knows about this except your husband. Do not listen to what anyone else tells you, it's not like they are all seeing/all knowing gods and to pretend they know is bad ethically. You can't surely imagine anyone else knows this ?

 

[Mylife]

I know that and I agree with you. But I m not asking if they know. I m asking for help to interpret the oracle response.

 

[Trojina]

50.6 shows a woman without a child, perhaps a beautiful woman alone.

I don't know where you get this stuff from. The line says


'The vessel has a jade handle
Great good fortune,
Nothing that does not bring harvest.'

There's absolutely nothing there about a woman without a child.

 

[diamant]

what conclusion shall I make? And what shall I do.
I've already written what conclusions I make from your existing casts.
As about what you shall do: either decide that with logic, or, if you can't, cast a question along the lines of "what is my best future reaction towards him regarding this matter?".

 

[Trojina]

I know that and I agree with you. But I m not asking if they know. I m asking for help to interpret the oracle response.

It amounts to the same thing, you are asking people to interpret the oracle to tell you if he's cheating. It's not like Yi can say 'yes he is' for a fact and facts are what you need not guesswork.


Your questions aren't helpful because you are trying to find out facts and you won't be able to this way. Probably better to ask about the state of your marriage.

If 50 is the cauldron of the marriage then it looks like it's sturdy with line 3 perhaps indicating there is more to be openly shared between you that hasn't been yet but will be in time.

 

[Mylife]

I don't know where you get this stuff from. The line says


'The vessel has a jade handle
Great good fortune,
Nothing that does not bring harvest.'

There's absolutely nothing there about a woman without a child.

Can you help me interpret the answers?

as I said above I asked twice with few months gap between them.

1st time I got - 60 on the Q if he meet a girl for sexual intercourse. And I also got 49.1-31 on the Q if he was honest to me when he said he didn’t sexually met nor sexual chat with a girl.
2nd time I go 64.3 - 50 on the Q if he meet a girl for sex. And I got 50.3.6-40 on his honesty about meeting it chatting.

How do you read these answers?

Is he with me because he likes the financial security? Does he likes me? Or the money takes over?

 

[Trojina]

the whole doubt came up because when he came back from the trip I saw on his mobile a blocked nr. And when I checked what that nr is I saw being a sexual agency phone nr where you call / sms to chat with a girl or agree to meet with one. So I asked him. He said he doesn’t remember what this nr was and it could be a nr from long time, bla bla bla and he was vague. He said he didn’t meet anyone nor chatting with anyone. He only said that the believes he has the nr for the purpose of seeing the girl picture in what’s up profile. He uses porn videos sometimes (like every men) and he said that he wanted a pic and thought that saving this nr would give him a pic to see in the profile. Anyway… it sounds so unbelievable but I pretended.
As you can see this is not an easy situation.

It sounds like he's lying doesn't it so you don't really need to ask Yi.

 

[Mylife]

what conclusion shall I make? And what shall I do.
I've already written what conclusions I make from your existing casts.
As about what you shall do: either decide that with logic, or, if you can't, cast a question along the lines of "what is my best future reaction towards him regarding this matter?".

Thank you.

 

[Mylife]

It sounds like he's lying doesn't it so you don't really need to ask Yi.

The whole 4 answers says he is lying?
I don’t understand you. Can you be more explicit and detailed.

 

[Mylife]

It sounds like he's lying doesn't it so you don't really need to ask Yi.

Oooh I got you now. Yes I agree.
but he is lying about meeting or chatting?
Diamant interpret the oracle answer as no meeting occurred but a chatting.

 

[Mylife]

what conclusion shall I make? And what shall I do.
I've already written what conclusions I make from your existing casts.
As about what you shall do: either decide that with logic, or, if you can't, cast a question along the lines of "what is my best future reaction towards him regarding this matter?".

You have been very patient and helpful. Thank you for your interpretation and reading.
I will ask the Q you suggested later. Will I be welcomed to ask for your help again?

 

[Trojina]

There is no Yi answer that I would take as evidence, actual evidence, that he is cheating. That would be ridiculous, a lie, unethical and unfair to him or anyone else. Actual evidence is needed if anyone is to take action about someone else's wrong doing.

What you said here is more important than any Yi cast

the whole doubt came up because when he came back from the trip I saw on his mobile a blocked nr. And when I checked what that nr is I saw being a sexual agency phone nr where you call / sms to chat with a girl or agree to meet with one. So I asked him. He said he doesn’t remember what this nr was and it could be a nr from long time, bla bla bla and he was vague. He said he didn’t meet anyone nor chatting with anyone. He only said that the believes he has the nr for the purpose of seeing the girl picture in what’s up profile. He uses porn videos sometimes (like every men) and he said that he wanted a pic and thought that saving this nr would give him a pic to see in the profile. Anyway… it sounds so unbelievable but I pretended.
As you can see this is not an easy situation.

It's unbelievable isn't it, he's taking you for a fool. Are you using Yi readings to avoid the truth here ? He's rung a sex agency so why do you need to ask Yi ?

You can't surely believe anyone here knows if he was chatting or having sex, they don't know and it's unethical to say that they do.

However you have hard evidence so are you avoiding knowing the truth through Yi. It's not confusing is it if he has dialled the number of a sex agency. The question is do you want to continue if he is otherwise a good husband ?

 

[Trojina]

but he is lying about meeting or chatting?
Diamant interpret the oracle answer as no meeting occurred but a chatting.

So you are ready to believe a stranger on the internet can remote view your husband's actions through Yi ?

No, doesn't work like that.

 

[Mylife]

There is no Yi answer that I would take as evidence, actual evidence, that he is cheating. That would be ridiculous, a lie, unethical and unfair to him or anyone else. Actual evidence is needed if anyone is to take action about someone else's wrong doing.

What you said here is more important than any Yi cast




It's unbelievable isn't it, he's taking you for a fool. Are you using Yi readings to avoid the truth here ? He's rung a sex agency so why do you need to ask Yi ?

You can't surely believe anyone here knows if he was chatting or having sex, they don't know and it's unethical to say that they do.

However you have hard evidence so are you avoiding knowing the truth through Yi. It's not confusing is it if he has dialled the number of a sex agency. The question is do you want to continue if he is otherwise a good husband ?

I did not see the nr in his last phone records. All I saw was this nr among the blocked numbers in WhatsApp. And the profile picture was a girl. That all. I don’t know abs I don’t have evidence if he rung or txt. I just saw it blocked. So the answer to my doubts it’s really obvious from this.
He said he didn’t act on it but he saved for the purpose of seeing the profile picture.
but I don’t know what he actually did. If he rung and met someone or if he rang /txt for a sexual chat.

 

[diamant]

You have been very patient and helpful. Thank you for your interpretation and reading.
I will ask the Q you suggested later. Will I be welcomed to ask for your help again?

You're welcome. Yes sure, I'll tell you my thoughts whenever you cast again.

 

[Trojina]

but I don’t know what he actually did.

I don't know what he actually did either and nor does anyone else here so it's down to you what to think. If it's just a blocked number in watsap who knows but it was the blocked number of a sex agency right ? You won't get anywhere at all by asking us what he did that's for sure since no one can possibly know so the way forward is to gauge the situation yourself. It's hard to tell if this matters but in your shoes I wouldn't feel too good about it. He can look at porn on the internet anytime can't he, he can look at any number of girls on the internet without having them on his watsap contact list with a photo. Why does he have a sex agency with a picture on his watsap contacts ?

Do people often get blocked sex agencies on their watsap ? I don't know. The only watsap contacts I have are from people I have communicated with. And of course what is meant by 'sex agency' differs, might be online porn or actual prostitution I don't know but I don't think online porn sites need your watsap address for any reason.

 

[Mylife]

Again I m not asking anyone about what he did. what I m asking it’s simple and easy. I asked a Q to the oracle and I m asking for help to interpret the answer. I m not asking opinion or people to tell me what they “think”
I m asking for an interpretation.
Why are you attacking me exactly?
I tought this forum is for asking help and support. I didn’t expect being attacked and criticised.

 

[Mylife]

If you don’t want to help interpreting the answer then just don’t reply. But criticising and sending 20 messages full of attacking attitude and unhelpful messages it’s not the way.
we should be kind to one another.

perhaps you want to help but the way you are doing you are making more harm than good.

 

[Trojina]

Again I m not asking anyone about what he did. what I m asking it’s simple and easy. I asked a Q to the oracle and I m asking for help to interpret the answer. I m not asking opinion or people to tell me what they “think”
I m asking for an interpretation.
Why are you attacking me exactly?
I tought this forum is for asking help and support. I didn’t expect being attacked and criticised.

I have not attacked you at all I've just told you the truth.

Of course it's not simple and easy. Do you seriously imagine anyone here can decide as if it were an actual fact whether he chatted or had sex ?

If you want to believe them then it's not a healthy choice for you nor does it have any real link to the I Ching but if you find it soothing it's up to you.

 

[Trojina]

But criticising and sending 20 messages full of attacking attitude and unhelpful messages it’s not the way.

I haven't sent 20 messages. Not interested in 'helping' you further anyway so just go ahead and rely on people who think they know what other people's husbands are doing via the internet.

 

[Trojina]

Again I m not asking anyone about what he did. what I m asking it’s simple and easy. I asked a Q to the oracle and I m asking for help to interpret the answer. I m not asking opinion or people to tell me what they “think”

There is no interpretation without people thinking. There is no answer from Yi without a person interpreting hence you will get what people think whatever happens. If you imagine there is an answer and it just means one thing regardless of the interpreter you are mistaken. All you have here on this thread is what people think.

Anyway go believe whatever you want I've finished with this.